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MALICE
11/18/12 10:14:38AM
"The UFC women's bantamweight title will go to Strikeforce bantamweight champion Ronda Rousey, without a fight...."

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My Thoughts:

I am not a fan of Rousey, but it is obvious she has been heading for super stardom for quite some time. She has had some impressive wins, but her attitude disgusts me. And now the UFC is just handing her the belt without making her earn it by winning a fight. What a disgrace.

Also, I think Cyborg would rough her up.
jae_1833
11/18/12 10:25:43AM
Weaksauce.....FLW Div had a tourney......I wonder if Dana's hitin' it?
sparky
11/18/12 10:32:46AM
WAR ROUSEY
Michael_Corleone
11/18/12 11:04:12AM

Posted by jae_1833

Weaksauce.....FLW Div had a tourney......I wonder if Dana's hitin' it?




Cmon son. She is the Anderson Silva of her division except she uses armbars instead of striking.
DancingDoll
11/18/12 11:10:29AM
Makes sense to me. They bring in a new division so the current title holder should get the belt. She's more than earned it, in my opinion.
Coolhand37
11/18/12 11:16:46AM
I think Cyborg has proven her integrity by failing her PED test's one to many times. Rousey deserving a belt without a fight is definitely the most absurd thing I have heard. The UFC with its bogus decisions, reversed decisions because of ped tests and its cheating of honest athletes is slowly turning me away from their organization. Keep up the good work YAY!!!!!
tallica62
11/18/12 11:28:01AM
That's not fair
grappler0000
11/18/12 11:35:44AM
What are you guys talking about? The Flyweights had a tourney because it was a new division. This is just transferring a division from Strikeforce to the UFC. The same thing happened when Aldo came from the WEC to the UFC. I don't understand the complaints. This is exactly how it was supposed to happen.
BuffaloDave
11/18/12 11:55:17AM

Posted by grappler0000

What are you guys talking about? The Flyweights had a tourney because it was a new division. This is just transferring a division from Strikeforce to the UFC. The same thing happened when Aldo came from the WEC to the UFC. I don't understand the complaints. This is exactly how it was supposed to happen.





Was basically gonna say the same thing, you just saved me the typing lol.
Bubbles
11/18/12 12:05:41PM

Posted by BuffaloDave


Posted by grappler0000

What are you guys talking about? The Flyweights had a tourney because it was a new division. This is just transferring a division from Strikeforce to the UFC. The same thing happened when Aldo came from the WEC to the UFC. I don't understand the complaints. This is exactly how it was supposed to happen.





Was basically gonna say the same thing, you just saved me the typing lol.


same thing with Cruz too
Bustamante-Aoki
11/18/12 12:16:34PM
A tournament wouldnt make much sense in this division since Rousey has proven herself.

With the flyweights, no one really knew who was the best in the weight class.
Gogoplatapus
11/18/12 12:39:40PM

Posted by Bustamante-Aoki

A tournament wouldnt make much sense in this division since Rousey has proven herself.

With the flyweights, no one really knew who was the best in the weight class.



Ya, there aren't any question marks here. No competition, no one on the horizon. No need for the division, the title or my time. It's all about getting into new media spaces with a 'pretty' face.
JoeWarren33
11/18/12 12:52:45PM
Thats pretty whack if you ask me!

emfleek
11/18/12 1:08:31PM

Posted by grappler0000

What are you guys talking about? The Flyweights had a tourney because it was a new division. This is just transferring a division from Strikeforce to the UFC. The same thing happened when Aldo came from the WEC to the UFC. I don't understand the complaints. This is exactly how it was supposed to happen.



This, this, this and nothing BUT this.

Get off your butthurt high horses. I suppose Jose Aldo should've had to prove himself when 145 was brought to the UFC?

shaneTpain
11/18/12 1:19:37PM

Posted by emfleek


Posted by grappler0000

What are you guys talking about? The Flyweights had a tourney because it was a new division. This is just transferring a division from Strikeforce to the UFC. The same thing happened when Aldo came from the WEC to the UFC. I don't understand the complaints. This is exactly how it was supposed to happen.



This, this, this and nothing BUT this.






glad to see not everybody is on stupid pills this morn
MALICE
11/18/12 1:37:39PM

Posted by grappler0000

What are you guys talking about? The Flyweights had a tourney because it was a new division. This is just transferring a division from Strikeforce to the UFC. The same thing happened when Aldo came from the WEC to the UFC. I don't understand the complaints. This is exactly how it was supposed to happen.



I would disagree with your statement, "This is exactly how it is suppose to happen." It may be how it happens, but I don't think it is how it is suppose to happen. My thoughts are when a new division is brought into an organization, the two fighters considered to be at the top of the division should fight in the first title fight. The winner will be the new champion.

Simply proclaiming her the champ because she is the champ in another organization is not right. When a title is left vacant, or a new division is created, two fighters should be chosen to compete for the title. No freebies. Just my thoughts.

I didn't think this topic would provoke anyone, but apparently there were stronger feelings on the subject than I had originally believed.
infestructure
11/18/12 1:54:45PM
I just don't want to lose any male fights over this. Keep it on separate cards please
MALICE
11/18/12 2:00:53PM
I just don't think there is enough depth for even one women's division.
Gogoplatapus
11/18/12 2:05:05PM

Posted by infestructure

I just don't want to lose any male fights over this. Keep it on separate cards please



I like the idea of All Womans UFC being totally separate so I can avoid it entirely.

This whole Rousy bubble could pop with one lady that can defend the armbar for a round or two, assuming their 5 round fights, followed by 3 of the sloppiest uneventful 3 rounds in history.

The only reason Womans stuff worked in Strikeforce and 'works' in Belator is because it's hardcore fans that watch and tolerate. Mainstream won't tolerate this.

I compare this to having to hear about Tim Tebow for the last 4 years. Much more to talk about but we get hung up on some bullshit.
Budgellism
11/18/12 2:11:11PM

Posted by MALICE

I just don't think there is enough depth for even one women's division.



grappler0000
11/18/12 2:15:56PM

Posted by MALICE


Posted by grappler0000

What are you guys talking about? The Flyweights had a tourney because it was a new division. This is just transferring a division from Strikeforce to the UFC. The same thing happened when Aldo came from the WEC to the UFC. I don't understand the complaints. This is exactly how it was supposed to happen.



I would disagree with your statement, "This is exactly how it is suppose to happen." It may be how it happens, but I don't think it is how it is suppose to happen. My thoughts are when a new division is brought into an organization, the two fighters considered to be at the top of the division should fight in the first title fight. The winner will be the new champion.

Simply proclaiming her the champ because she is the champ in another organization is not right. When a title is left vacant, or a new division is created, two fighters should be chosen to compete for the title. No freebies. Just my thoughts.

I didn't think this topic would provoke anyone, but apparently there were stronger feelings on the subject than I had originally believed.



When left in context, as it should be read, it makes perfect sense. In response to implications of unfair/special treatment, yes, this is exactly how it was supposed to happen.
jay98107
11/18/12 2:23:18PM

Posted by jae_1833

Weaksauce.....FLW Div had a tourney......I wonder if Dana's hitin' it?



But the UFC didn't own any fighting organizations with a 125 pound weight class, if I'm not mistaken. When the UFC moved over the 135 and 145 pound divisions from the WEC, the WEC champs were crowned as the UFC champs of the newly formed divisions. Rousey is the Strikeforce champ and really the only reason the UFC has decided to add a women's division.Giving her the belt makes sense to me.
mrsmiley
11/18/12 2:37:28PM
Everybody is making such great points.
I'm going to try to go through all this and make as balanced as a statement I can.

First,I'm not a huge fan of this but I see and understand why some are okay with it.
My biggest problem is that for a long time Dana said their wouldn't be a UFC womans division until their was better talent.
Now that they have a woman division,to showcase how deep it is since that statement we get an already crowned champion.
Granted this is a new division,but I would think,especially with the ladies division you would want to showcase how deep the division is,as opposed to go and just do the opposite. Couldn't they just find some former smackgirl fighter,load up on highlight clips and at least make a fight?
Imagine if when Overeem came to the UFC if they would have just handed him the championship. Why didn't they?
Because their was contention and competition.

Now truth be told their was already a UFC champion as well,and these situations are different. I'm not pretending they aren't. But the challenge is going to be showcasing the rest of the talent in this division. Perhaps a ladies tuf?
How much about this is acquiring the division or just the face behind it?

Now in the defense of the UFC,I can't just see them sinking the division.
I'm sure their thinking of ways to build it for the better and most likely will.

But I don't think this is a great way to start.
MALICE
11/18/12 3:32:19PM

Posted by grappler0000
When left in context, as it should be read, it makes perfect sense. In response to implications of unfair/special treatment, yes, this is exactly how it was supposed to happen.



I apologize. I did not intentionally misquote you. That being said, mrsmiley's post has hit the nail on the head so nothing else need be said.
Bythar
11/18/12 4:11:46PM

Posted by jae_1833

Weaksauce.....FLW Div had a tourney......I wonder if Dana's hitin' it?



Bet you didn't say 'I wonder if Dana's hittin' it?' when Aldo and Cruz got their belts...
FlashyG
11/18/12 4:43:55PM

Posted by Gogoplatapus

The only reason Womans stuff worked in Strikeforce and 'works' in Belator is because it's hardcore fans that watch and tolerate. Mainstream won't tolerate this.



Rousey's fight with Kaufmann drew the highest ratings of any Strikeforce event in 2012 and the 2nd highest ratings they pulled in were for her fight with Tate.

Outside of Overeem and Fedor she was the biggest draw in the entire organization so I think you're underestimating her appeal to casual viewers.
Gogoplatapus
11/18/12 4:45:58PM

Posted by FlashyG


Posted by Gogoplatapus

The only reason Womans stuff worked in Strikeforce and 'works' in Belator is because it's hardcore fans that watch and tolerate. Mainstream won't tolerate this.



Rousey's fight with Kaufmann drew the highest ratings of any Strikeforce event in 2012 and the 2nd highest ratings they pulled in were for her fight with Tate.

Outside of Overeem and Fedor she was the biggest draw in the entire organization so I think you're underestimating her appeal to casual viewers.



One fight.

What were the ratings for Kaufman vs Cohen?
MALICE
11/18/12 4:56:52PM

Posted by Gogoplatapus

One fight.

What were the ratings for Kaufman vs Cohen?



Good Point. It just seems to me they will be relying solely on Rousey's name to carry the division. How many potential opponents are there for Rousey at this time?
MMAcca
11/18/12 6:34:35PM
Nothing to see here, this is standard practice.

Don't worry too much about sub-par women's fights appearing on loads of cards people.

The only female fights, will be when Rousey defends her belt. Dana has said this on numerous occasions. The depth of talent to support a division isn't there yet.

I think the challengers to her title will likely get one fight deals, with the option of more fights in case anyone beats Ronda.
spang714
11/18/12 6:39:40PM

Posted by jae_1833

Weaksauce.....FLW Div had a tourney......I wonder if Dana's hitin' it?




...I think this
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