Rich Franklin: ‘Another fight with Anderson wouldn’t be that interesting for fans’

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juanez13
3/9/08 5:17:31PM

“Realistically, another fight with Anderson wouldn’t be that interesting for fans. But (fighting) is how I make money. Whenever I’m at the end of my rope and I take a week away from the gym, I’m anxious to get back. I’m just a competitor.”


Perhaps the fourth-best fighter at 185 pounds in the world, Rich Franklin, admits that a third fight with UFC Middleweight Champion Anderson Silva is not that attractive. That’s because “The Spider” is kryptonite when it comes to “Ace” — two fights, two lopsided losses and two broken noses. Franklin recently inked a six-fight deal, meaning he has a lot ahead of him. If he and Silva roll in their next few bouts, will that make a third fight between the two any more interesting, maniacs? My Spidey-sense says no, which makes this a potential conundrum for Franklin and the UFC.

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to me this is his way of officially announcing that He is Now the Middleweight Gate keeper.
Aaronno9
3/9/08 5:25:28PM
Thats like saying chuck is the gatekeeper of the lhw division becouse he cant beat rampage. To me a gatekeeper beats the lower ranked fighters and looses to the higher ranked fighters, whereas rich can pretty much beat anybody at mw bar one fighter.

I think labelling him a gatekeeper at this point is a little harsh.
Manak
3/9/08 5:27:05PM
yea, he's pretty much the gatekeeper, but he's one hell of gatekeeper to beat so he better hope someone knocks off anderson or he's not gettin a title shot, but i dont see anyone beatin The Spider anytime soon.
CactusBob
3/9/08 5:29:47PM
That actually raises a very good point. Should Franklin stay in the UFC where he will be assured a job, but unlikely ever become champion again? Or is it time to move on to another organization. Absolutly a fighter or any athlete does not run from a challenge, but it is a pain in the ass to have your nose broken consistently as well. I think he has some good matchups still in the division, but if the UFC hopes to keep Franklin's interest, they will need an infusion of depth pretty quick.
CantAndleDaRiddum
3/9/08 6:48:09PM
i love rich
seems like he would fight Anderson 5x even if he lost everytime before......heart of a champion. always be one of my faves
rabbit915
3/10/08 12:02:04AM
He understands his position well. Silva has proved that he is a step above Franklin (although silva has basically proved hes a step above absolutely everyone in the division). There is no need for another fight between the two.

However, i think its a big step to say that Franklin should leave the UFC. There are lots of great fights to be had still (Franklin-Henderson comes to mind).
Pookie
3/10/08 12:10:30AM

Posted by Aaronno9
...whereas rich can pretty much beat anybody at mw bar one fighter....



i disagree, i think

Lawler
Akiyama
Misaki
Lindland
Filho
Henderson
&
Marquardt

would all beat rich, decisively
Svartorm
3/10/08 12:37:09AM
As of this very second, I'd say Alan Belcher is the MW gatekeeper.

A gatekeeper is someone that if you can't beat them, you shouldn't be in that division, as they have the lowest possible skillset to stay afloat.

To say Rich Franklin is a gate keeper is insane, as he'd destroy about 90% of the UFC MW division. The only guys who'd give him serious trouble would be Marquart, possibly Almedia, and Okami and Rivera if Rich had a really bad night. Otherwise he'd crush just about anyone else.
Pookie
3/10/08 12:40:03AM
people dont give belcher enough credit
jae_1833
3/10/08 1:13:40AM
I for one don't see being a gate keeper a bad thing...at least you have a steady job!! The true division gatekeepers are as follows in my opinion.
LW - Pellegrino or Fisher
WW - Lytle or Burkman
MW - Leben or Macdonald
LHW - Bonnar or Gouveia
HW - Sanchez or Mir
To me a gate keeper is someone who is used to test another fighter, he makes sure that the man is of the quality of the division. A gatekeeper is always a couple of fights away from title contention but never quite there. Gatekeepers have a time honored tradiotion of being exciting fighters, who if they go down they go down swinging for the fences!
Svartorm
3/10/08 1:22:19AM

Posted by Pookie

people dont give belcher enough credit



Don't get me wrong dude, I love Belcher, and actually had him winning against Almeida before he dropped from the fight, but his skil-set is somewhat limited, and hes had trouble with some fights in the UFC. He manhandled Starnes, who I don't think should be fighting in UFC, and did the same to Salmon at LHW, who probably shouldn't be fighting anywhere. His skills are improving steadily though, so we'll see what the future brings.
Mayhem13
3/10/08 1:49:26AM
I agree that calling Franklin a gatekeeper is abit absurd....he is top 3-4 MW in the UFC .... and theres really no shame in losing to Ace...

I agree that someone like Belcher is the MW gatekeeper....or even Kendall Grove at this point could be considered a gatekeeper I'd say.

and as far as not being interesting for the fans ...I agree...but I also think if Silva beats Okami (or whoever is next) and Franklin beats Lutter and then say Cote or Marquardt or henderson whoever else is up there in the ranks...and it makes sense for him to fight again..then do it..
NatedawgThaM
3/10/08 2:34:15AM
I think he is the gatekeeper. He's the one that holds the key to getting into the elite bunch in the middleweight division because he's exactly on the borderline of elite-good. If your elite you can beat him, if your not elite you won't beat him because he hasn't beaten any elite fighters besides Okami. Tanner is good but I never really considered him elite. Dave "The Crow" isn't elite.

IMO he's the #6-7 ranked MW. I think he'd get owned by the great strikers because his striking is overrated because he's huge and awkward. IMO.

IMO He'd get submitted/KO'd or decision'd by Lindland, Hendo, Lawler, Marquardt, Almedia, Meia(Damien), Martin Kampman, Drew Mcfedries, Paulo Fhilo, Dennis Khang, and of course Anderson Silva.
DCRage
3/10/08 7:29:33AM

Posted by CactusBob

That actually raises a very good point. Should Franklin stay in the UFC where he will be assured a job, but unlikely ever become champion again? Or is it time to move on to another organization. Absolutly a fighter or any athlete does not run from a challenge, but it is a pain in the ass to have your nose broken consistently as well. I think he has some good matchups still in the division, but if the UFC hopes to keep Franklin's interest, they will need an infusion of depth pretty quick.


Dana needs Rich more than Rich needs Dana. Despite his no longer being MW Champion, Rich still has name recognition and drawing power-he still puts fans in seats much like Liddell. So he probably should stay.
Styles
3/11/08 12:07:04AM

Posted by jae_1833

I for one don't see being a gate keeper a bad thing...at least you have a steady job!! The true division gatekeepers are as follows in my opinion.
LW - Pellegrino or Fisher
WW - Lytle or Burkman
MW - Leben or Macdonald
LHW - Bonnar or Gouveia
HW - Sanchez or Mir
To me a gate keeper is someone who is used to test another fighter, he makes sure that the man is of the quality of the division. A gatekeeper is always a couple of fights away from title contention but never quite there. Gatekeepers have a time honored tradiotion of being exciting fighters, who if they go down they go down swinging for the fences!



I know you stated it was your opinion, and with all due respect to your statement, Pellegrino is far from a gatekeeper. He will easily beat Diaz and I cant wait until he gets a rematch with big daddy and takes him out like he should have before. Pellegrino is a f'n warrior and a future LW champ.

I can see your point of Leben being a gate keeper, but why do you state that? the only person that handed him his ass is the very same person that everyone is saying is unstoppable.

Just like the above statement of mine, how do you count Mir as a gate keeper. Same with Gouveia. I understand what you are saying your definition of a gatekeeper is, but again with all due respect, lets make a bit more accurate statements. A gate keeper is never near title contention, a gate keeper is there to test new up and coming fighters and fighters that may be on a losing streak. A gatekeeper hardly goes out in style (though this could be contradicted).

My statement isn't meant to be taken in the wrong way, just voicing my opinion just like you have.
jiujitsufreak74
3/11/08 12:11:13AM

Posted by juanez13


“Realistically, another fight with Anderson wouldn’t be that interesting for fans. But (fighting) is how I make money. Whenever I’m at the end of my rope and I take a week away from the gym, I’m anxious to get back. I’m just a competitor.”


Perhaps the fourth-best fighter at 185 pounds in the world, Rich Franklin, admits that a third fight with UFC Middleweight Champion Anderson Silva is not that attractive. That’s because “The Spider” is kryptonite when it comes to “Ace” — two fights, two lopsided losses and two broken noses. Franklin recently inked a six-fight deal, meaning he has a lot ahead of him. If he and Silva roll in their next few bouts, will that make a third fight between the two any more interesting, maniacs? My Spidey-sense says no, which makes this a potential conundrum for Franklin and the UFC.

LINK

to me this is his way of officially announcing that He is Now the Middleweight Gate keeper.



way too talented to be a gatekeeper. he beats everyone in the division save for Hendo and Silva. maybe he even beats Hendo...who knows but i would love to see that fight. stylistically it would be exciting. Rich is a very talented fighter and will always sit around the top of the division but as long as Silva is Champ he won't ever win a title fight. just a bad match up for him and its kind of like Rampage and Chuck only worse.
telnights
3/11/08 1:54:57AM

Posted by Pookie


Posted by Aaronno9
...whereas rich can pretty much beat anybody at mw bar one fighter....



i disagree, i think

Lawler
Akiyama
Misaki
Lindland
Filho
Henderson
&
Marquardt

would all beat rich, decisively



Oh man come on Franklin is at the least ranked 3rd at 185. Putting Lawler, Akiyama, Marquardt, and Misaki above him is crazy. I don't think some of the guys you listed can even beat Okami more less Franklin. Last fight I watched Filho in he looked weak and was getting man handled by a guy thats not a very strong fighter. If that was Franklin it would have even been worse. The cut is just to much for Filho at thats why his next fight will be his last at MW. The only 2 fighters I really see beating Franklin is Henderson and Anderson. Man I'm not even a Franklin fan but to say some of those guys can beat him is just absurd.
jae_1833
3/14/08 3:18:50PM
Well let's see....first I hardly ever take offense....I'm in the military and we are pretty harsh to each other and all so I got thick skin so no sweat there. But on to the whys of who you have in disagreement....
Pellegrino...mainly a ground fighter Losses to Fickett and Stevenson who recently got owned.
Leben...limited ground game losses to Starnes and Macdonald (both ground guys)
Mir....ground guy with shady hands at best....Losses to Marcio Cruz and Brandon Vera
Gouveia...mainly a striker most well rounded of all I mentioned IMO...but losses to Jardine and Rory Singer!!! That last one is inecusable to me!!
So I know I didn't convince you but most of these guys are pretty one dimensional and I don't ever seeing them holding a title and if they are in contention I think they will suffer a tough loss just like Leben and Batman. Peace!!!!

P.S. This is a response to STYLES.
nastshabast
3/14/08 3:24:03PM
Dear Richie Rich Franklin The Turtle,

Thanks tips.

xoxoxo Nasty
sinister_16
4/10/08 9:17:00AM
i already know who would win that Anderson silva hand raised at the end of first round
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