The Return of The Dragon – Machida vs Silva at UFC 89

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originalconspiracy
7/16/08 8:03:29PM
machida all the way
The_Grim_Reaper
7/16/08 8:26:37PM
Machida by tko late in the 2nd or sometime in the third, cus i know thiago will push the pace and his cardio is suspect.....so i see him pushing to hard against machida and end up running into the same knee that dropped ortiz and then being finished by gnp
casketcoin
7/16/08 8:29:29PM
i agree this should be the main event. There styles are not that much alike but i was suprised to see that they are the same height. And being that they are both undefeated makes it more interesting. I'm going to take thiago in this one.Fan of both but just a bigger fan of silva he seems like he goes out to get tje job done
StorminYourman
7/16/08 8:54:44PM
I will take Machida on this one and williThats how sure I amng to put the avatar on the line. If anyone is willing to take the avatar bet PM me.
jakeiceman
7/16/08 8:58:28PM

Posted by Ordep

can't go against my fav.
Thiago!


just Lidell-Evans (worst main event in UFC history) for September.




Worse than Evans-Bisping? I doubt it. But I see where you gettin at. I dont think Evans should ever be a headliner again, hopefully Liddell will put an end to it.


Also, I'm not sure who will take this fight with Machida and Silva. I'm not much of a Machida fan but I think he has the edge. Although I think anyone who picks him to win by TKO is nuts. Machida isnt going to knockout Silva, he couldnt even finish Ortiz. If he wins he will do it by another drawn out decision. Although Silva has some power so hopefully he can catch him. Either way this will be a great fight!


Sam_Rothstein
7/16/08 9:04:22PM
im surprised to see so many people think thiago alves will win this fight.
StevieC
7/16/08 9:08:02PM
Dumb, Machida should be next in line to fight Griffin.

Why? Because he is a better and would win.
juanez13
7/16/08 9:35:24PM

Posted by Sam_Rothstein

im surprised to see so many people think thiago alves will win this fight.



havent seen anybody that think Thiago Alves will win, but i have seen a few people that think Thiago SILVA is going to win

lordicast
7/16/08 9:53:30PM

Posted by nickcuc547

im excited for this one. thiago is aggressive and i hope to god he gets a hold of lyoto and pounds him out. with that said i'm taking machida by boring decision.



Damn right you should everyone should pick Machida by decision anything else is just MMATH

WAR MACHIDA
Zekeil
7/16/08 9:55:54PM

Posted by gsquat


Posted by Twenty20Dollars

Thiago will win this. Exposing Machida to be not that great. Thiago will throw stronger punches and will be better on the ground and stronger.



I don't even know what to say about this. Yeah, I'm sure Silva's decent yet wild striking will win over Machida's great jujitsu, excellent counter striking and etreme well-roundedness.




I don't even know what to say about this. Machida and his well roundedness?
How about Machida's great ability to run from every opponent and be satisfied with a bitch decision.

Thiago by brutal ko( if he can catch him ) or possibly Machida by another boring, weak, bitch-like decision( where he does absolutely no damage to his opponent ).

Don't get me wrong there is nothing wrong with winning a decision if your really trying. Machida runs around throwing love taps for three rounds just to eak out a decision from points.
lordicast
7/16/08 10:02:27PM

Posted by Zekeil


Posted by gsquat


Posted by Twenty20Dollars

Thiago will win this. Exposing Machida to be not that great. Thiago will throw stronger punches and will be better on the ground and stronger.



I don't even know what to say about this. Yeah, I'm sure Silva's decent yet wild striking will win over Machida's great jujitsu, excellent counter striking and etreme well-roundedness.




I don't even know what to say about this. Machida and his well roundedness?
How about Machida's great ability to run from every opponent and be satisfied with a bitch decision.

Thiago by brutal ko( if he can catch him ) or possibly Machida by another boring, weak, bitch-like decision( where he does absolutely no damage to his opponent ).

Don't get me wrong there is nothing wrong with winning a decision if your really trying. Machida runs around throwing love taps for three rounds just to eak out a decision from points.



Bet you wont call him that to his face!
anyway i think a better match up would have been Silva Vs Silva it could win headliner over anything ive seen in a while

EDIT: to many Silvas i mean Wand Vs Thiago
Sam_Rothstein
7/16/08 10:03:45PM

Posted by juanez13


Posted by Sam_Rothstein

im surprised to see so many people think thiago alves will win this fight.



havent seen anybody that think Thiago Alves will win, but i have seen a few people that think Thiago SILVA is going to win




i meant thiago silva, theres too many damn thiagos in the ufc to remember there last names at the correct time.....

i train nick diaz style if you know what i mean, so i make a few mistakes here and there. bare with me
juanez13
7/16/08 10:13:08PM
Yea dude i know, just giving you a hard time
otacon279
7/16/08 10:23:30PM


track and field krotty might win.

gartface
7/16/08 10:27:24PM

Posted by Zekeil
I don't even know what to say about this. Machida and his well roundedness?
How about Machida's great ability to run from every opponent and be satisfied with a bitch decision.

Thiago by brutal ko( if he can catch him ) or possibly Machida by another boring, weak, bitch-like decision( where he does absolutely no damage to his opponent ).

Don't get me wrong there is nothing wrong with winning a decision if your really trying. Machida runs around throwing love taps for three rounds just to eak out a decision from points.


I wasn't aware that submitting Sokoudjou with an Arm Triangle constituted being a "bitch decision." hmmmm?
xtra_chewy
7/16/08 10:43:39PM
Machida is going to dictate the whole fight and wear Silva down via 3rd TKO.
I dont see Silva taking him down and GnP Machida like he does everyone else. Although Silva is a beast in that dimension, Machida is too crafty.
durog
7/16/08 11:32:25PM
great fight, i got machida winning. speed kills, and i don't think silva can catch him.
Manfred
7/16/08 11:49:04PM

Posted by ThaAxeMurderer7

I kinda think this should be the main event instead of Bisping/Leben. That's just my opinion though.



QFT. I hope Thiago wins, but have a feeling it'll be Machida via out-pointing him on the feet.
Zekeil
7/17/08 12:00:27AM

Posted by gartface


Posted by Zekeil
I don't even know what to say about this. Machida and his well roundedness?
How about Machida's great ability to run from every opponent and be satisfied with a bitch decision.

Thiago by brutal ko( if he can catch him ) or possibly Machida by another boring, weak, bitch-like decision( where he does absolutely no damage to his opponent ).

Don't get me wrong there is nothing wrong with winning a decision if your really trying. Machida runs around throwing love taps for three rounds just to eak out a decision from points.


I wasn't aware that submitting Sokoudjou with an Arm Triangle constituted being a "bitch decision." hmmmm?



Ok now besides the Franklin KO name another dominant performance Machida has had in his career.
You can't. He was lucky to catch Franklin in the right spot and that Soko is an inexpeirenced fighter( especially on the ground ).
Give Soko another year or so and have a rematch, The outcome wouldn't be the same.

Machida will be exposed soon, if not by Silva then the next fight after that should be a top five fighter and we will see then.

I personally think T. Silva has got his ticket.


Thiago by brutal beating.
Wolfenstein
7/17/08 12:16:27AM
Oh no Team Sherdog found the MMA Playground.
thesteven5918
7/17/08 2:01:28AM
to every one saying Machida has great counter striking and well roundness.... i hope u dont mean running like a lil girl around the ring for three rounds baking up qualifies this... Anderson Silva and GSP is well roundness not MAchida!!!!!!!!
gartface
7/17/08 2:29:08AM

Posted by thesteven5918

to every one saying Machida has great counter striking and well roundness.... i hope u dont mean running like a lil girl around the ring for three rounds baking up qualifies this... Anderson Silva and GSP is well roundness not MAchida!!!!!!!!


Oh yeah, when he threw Tito to the ground, he was backing up? And when he almost knocked him out with a knee to the liver. I forgot he was running away and was still able to do that.
Come to think of it, that makes him even more well rounded.
Drudinh
7/17/08 4:24:53AM
GOOD OPINION AND I'D AGREE.
TWO GREAT FIGHTERS AND I LIKE SILVA, BUT I THINK MACHIDA WILL BRING IT TO THE HOUSE
Red-Dragon
7/17/08 8:31:30AM
Do people really think Machidas fights against Soko and Tito were boring?

I am sure that some are just being sheep and jumping on the bandwagon. The guy is pure class and if you can't see that well then you might just be the kind of people who just love the way Bob Sapp fights.

I like both Machida and Thiago but have Machida winning this one. And then the belt.
finnish_line
7/17/08 9:36:20AM


We'll have to see how "American" the British crowd acts, but I think Machida is going to have to backpedal even faster than in the Tito fight due to Machida constantly going after him (at least for one round) and that will mean boos for Machida.

Those kind of boos = no title shot yet.
Lucas
7/17/08 9:50:19AM
When people boo its because they have no respect and probably have no idea what its like to be a fighter in the cage, booing Kailb Starnes is different because he didn't want to fight, Machida clearly does. You fight to your strengths so why should machida change, his style is very successful. I would find MMA pretty boring if everyfight was just 2 fighters standing up going toe to toe, different styles is what adds to the appeal of the sport and makes it so exciting
finnish_line
7/17/08 10:16:37AM


That may be true, but it doesn't make the crowd reaction any less relevant to the LHW title match making.
Lucas
7/17/08 10:29:08AM

Posted by finnish_line



That may be true, but it doesn't make the crowd reaction any less relevant to the LHW title match making.



This is true but surely you can only ignore someone with a unbeaten record for so long whether their being booed or not.

I will be at the fight and i certainly wont be booing know matter how the fight goes
finnish_line
7/17/08 10:36:00AM

Posted by Lucas

This is true but surely you can only ignore someone with a unbeaten record for so long whether their being booed or not.

I will be at the fight and i certainly wont be booing know matter how the fight goes




They could turn Machida into the LHW gate keeper.
Lucas
7/17/08 10:45:36AM

Posted by finnish_line


Posted by Lucas

This is true but surely you can only ignore someone with a unbeaten record for so long whether their being booed or not.

I will be at the fight and i certainly wont be booing know matter how the fight goes




They could turn Machida into the LHW gate keeper.



They could do but if that happened they run the risk of never having another title fight at light heavyweight and Griffin will be champion forever
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