Report: Dana White: Belts not on Line with Henderson vs. Jackson

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aznteabagger
7/3/07 8:08:45AM
Despite recent comments that a UFC 75 match between UFC light heavyweight champion Quinton Jackson and PRIDE champion Dan Henderson would unify the organizations’ two belts, UFC president Dana White now says that’s not the case.


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Aether
7/3/07 8:21:58AM
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Dana White has done so much for MMA but he's pretty unprofessional about the way he presents himself and his organization publicly. It seems ridiculous for the head of such a huge corporation to come out with official announcements and then just change his mind on the fly later on, talk massive shit about fighters that he personally doesn't like openly in the media, and swear like a sailor in every interview he ever does. He's really done a lot for the sport but if he wants it to become fully mainstream he needs to learn to act like a professional. This really isn't specifically about this one announcement, this is just an addition to his long list of highly unprofessional acts as the primary representative of this sport as a whole.

This seems like an incredibly stupid idea to me. I didn't personally think putting both belts on the line was a great idea but to put nothing at all on the line is an even worse one. They need to figure out what the hell they're doing as far as the UFC/PRIDE merger is concerned once and for all.
grappler0000
7/3/07 8:34:18AM

Posted by Aether

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It seems ridiculous for the head of such a huge corporation to come out with official announcements and then just change his mind on the fly later on, talk massive shit about fighters that he personally doesn't like openly in the media, and swear like a sailor in every interview he ever does.



I'm on the fence about whether the belts should be on the line or not. I could be wrong, but I don't remember there being any announcement of this being a unification match...I always thought that this was just an assumption.
NME
7/3/07 8:55:43AM

Posted by grappler0000
I could be wrong, but I don't remember there being any announcement of this being a unification match...



Dana was asked whether or not the belts would be on the line during the press conference for UFC 72, and he explained that both belts would be on the line.
InkedUp
7/3/07 9:06:35AM
I like the fact they arent on the line as it gives us the chance to have HUGE PPVs with Champ vs Champ to simply prove which promotion has the best fighters.
grappler0000
7/3/07 9:07:14AM

Posted by NME


Posted by grappler0000
I could be wrong, but I don't remember there being any announcement of this being a unification match...



Dana was asked whether or not the belts would be on the line during the press conference for UFC 72, and he explained that both belts would be on the line.



OK...fair enough. BTW, you have the best avatar in the history of man.
boob
7/3/07 9:11:40AM
If they dont unify the belts they will have a situation like boxing has where nobody knows the true champion because there is belts for everything!
Aether
7/3/07 9:13:51AM
yeah he did say it. I personally thought putting both belts on the line was a stupid idea to begin with, but one of them should definitely be on the line and I still maintain that making announcements publicly and then rescinding them without any real reason is highly unprofessional.
TWITA
7/3/07 9:32:47AM
Agree with all of your comments about Dana. I really do like the guy and I think he's done so much for the UFC and MMA that he can be forgiven for his missteps. However, he needs to work on his brain to mouth filter and think about what he says before he spouts them off to the press. I think he has some awesome ideas circulating in his head but he needs to think them through before he opens his mouth.
InkedUp
7/3/07 10:22:52AM
Yeah, Dana does seem to say one thing only to rescind it a few wekks later, but thats what I love about the man. He has so many ideas going on in that little head of his that even he doesnt realize what hes agreed to or said half the time til someone quotes it back to him
spider1179
7/3/07 11:23:19AM

Posted by Aether

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Dana White has done so much for MMA but he's pretty unprofessional about the way he presents himself and his organization publicly. It seems ridiculous for the head of such a huge corporation to come out with official announcements and then just change his mind on the fly later on, talk massive shit about fighters that he personally doesn't like openly in the media, and swear like a sailor in every interview he ever does. He's really done a lot for the sport but if he wants it to become fully mainstream he needs to learn to act like a professional. This really isn't specifically about this one announcement, this is just an addition to his long list of highly unprofessional acts as the primary representative of this sport as a whole.

This seems like an incredibly stupid idea to me. I didn't personally think putting both belts on the line was a great idea but to put nothing at all on the line is an even worse one. They need to figure out what the hell they're doing as far as the UFC/PRIDE merger is concerned once and for all.



I read the article in the link and am wondering where in this was Dana's so called unprofessionalism. I'm not disputing the fact that he cusses like a sailor, but what does this have to do with this article or this discussion???
Ultimate_fighter
7/3/07 1:41:58PM
Since he is respecting both champs, does this mean that henderson is going back to pride if he still has the belts, becuz if henderson stays the belts in pride should be vacated...
Mayo
7/3/07 1:43:07PM
A possible outcome of this is that if Rampage loses, nobody will respect him as the champ anymore.
But I think what's really going on is Henderson wants to eventually stay at the 185 class. Now is the chance to have this "what if" fight before Henderson enters the Middleweight division.
Mayo
7/3/07 1:45:48PM

Posted by Ultimate_fighter

Since he is respecting both champs, does this mean that henderson is going back to pride if he still has the belts, becuz if henderson stays the belts in pride should be vacated...


Think about it... who is left in Pride? All the fighters are leaving, and if they're not yet in the UFC, they soon will be. Functionally speaking, Pride can no longer exist unless it becomes a watered down organization like the smaller orgs.
Zvonimir
7/3/07 2:38:50PM
One of the things I always liked better about the UFC was that UFC was always able to say "We don't have non-title fights" Now they can't.

This announcement is good in the sense that it provides a tiny glimmer of hope that PRIDE will be back.

Its bad in the sense that if QRJ loses no one will respect him as Champ.

Im disappointed, they should have unified the belts. Having less belts makes each belt worth more, IMO.

Does anyone know if it will still be a 5 rounder?
TOMMYAYO05
7/3/07 3:06:39PM
THIS IS COMPLETLEY RIDICULOUS, I MEAN IF RAMPAGE WINS OK(I THINK HE WILL ANYWAY)BUT IF HENDERSON WINS AND RAMPAGE STILL HAS HIS BELT PEOPLE ARENT GOING TO TAKE HIM AS SERIOUS,JUST LIKE WHEN LUTTER FOUGHT SILVA AND DINT MAKE WEIGHT SO THE TITLE WAS NOT ON THE LINE,WELL IF LUTTER WOULD OF WON I THINK HE SHOULD OF GOT THE TITLE,THIS IS JUST LIKE GAY ASS BOXING THEY NEED TO PUT THEM ON THE LINE.
nubby
7/3/07 3:06:55PM
Only championship bouts are 5 rounds. Expect 3.
TOMMYAYO05
7/3/07 3:12:13PM
ahhhhh i forgot about that too,man this is wack they need to thrown those belts up to see what is really better pride or ufc,personally im thinkin ufc in this division,pride in the heavys,ufc in the welter and middl,and pride in the lights.
StevieC
7/3/07 3:34:50PM
Dumb.
Aether
7/3/07 5:36:08PM

Posted by spider1179


Posted by Aether

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Dana White has done so much for MMA but he's pretty unprofessional about the way he presents himself and his organization publicly. It seems ridiculous for the head of such a huge corporation to come out with official announcements and then just change his mind on the fly later on, talk massive shit about fighters that he personally doesn't like openly in the media, and swear like a sailor in every interview he ever does. He's really done a lot for the sport but if he wants it to become fully mainstream he needs to learn to act like a professional. This really isn't specifically about this one announcement, this is just an addition to his long list of highly unprofessional acts as the primary representative of this sport as a whole.

This seems like an incredibly stupid idea to me. I didn't personally think putting both belts on the line was a great idea but to put nothing at all on the line is an even worse one. They need to figure out what the hell they're doing as far as the UFC/PRIDE merger is concerned once and for all.



I read the article in the link and am wondering where in this was Dana's so called unprofessionalism. I'm not disputing the fact that he cusses like a sailor, but what does this have to do with this article or this discussion???



In this article it would be exactly what I said... the fact that he said both belts WERE on the line and then a few weeks later changes his mind. I really hope this decision was at least made WITH the fighters, not independently of them.
Zvonimir
7/3/07 6:18:41PM

Posted by nubby

Only championship bouts are 5 rounds. Expect 3.



Thats the part that really sucks. This should be a 5 rounder.
e-thug
7/3/07 6:50:16PM
I think this takes away the gloss of the event.

I really wish they would hurry up and sort out this whole Pride thing. Is it dead is it alive etc.

If Rampage wins then it makes Hendersons belt look weak and same thing if Hendo wins.

It justs makes sense to unify the belts if Pride is dead (which I believe it is)
nastshabast
7/3/07 7:39:36PM
so really no matter what happens somebody will not be respected as a champ

nastshabast
7/3/07 7:40:51PM
they should cancel the fight and make them each fight other people then
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