Randy Couture: Fight with Minotauro Nogueira ‘just doesn’t make sense’

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juanez13
4/13/08 4:06:16PM

.“… I’m 44 and looking at the end of my career. I want to fight the best guy in the world and be considered the best guy as well. That fight is the only way that will happen. It doesn’t make sense – the UFC is criticizing me for not fighting (Antonio Rodrigo) Nogueira, and I have a lot of respect for Nogueira. I think he’s a great fighter, but he’s been beat by Fedor twice. That fight doesn’t make sense for me right now. If I have more fights left in me after Fedor, maybe I’ll fight Nogueira then, but right now, it just doesn’t make sense.”


Embattled UFC Heavyweight Champion Randy Couture — who still holds that designation because of legal reasons — shares his thoughts on a fight with interim UFC heavyweight champion, (Antonio Rodrigo) Nogueira. “Minotauro” called out “The Natural” after he defeated Tim Sylvia to earn the vacated belt; however, it appears that Couture (for now) is hellbent on fighting one fighter and one fighter only, Fedor Emelianenko.

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TimW001
4/13/08 4:13:49PM
In my humble honest opinion, Randy would lose both fights.

Just my opinion! Don't get your hatin' on.
Manak
4/13/08 4:17:40PM
BS, i think this is just a bad match-up for randy and he knows it so Randy is ridin his wave to fedor. He beat tim and GG, yet nog doesnt make since. nog has beaten everyone expect for fedor (one was a NC), if Randy wants to be best fight the best and that includes nog cause Randy's record is not all impressive at HW
juanez13
4/13/08 4:45:17PM

Posted by Manak

BS, i think this is just a bad match-up for randy and he knows it so Randy is ridin his wave to fedor. He beat tim and GG, yet nog doesnt make since. nog has beaten everyone expect for fedor (one was a NC), if Randy wants to be best fight the best and that includes nog cause Randy's record is not all impressive at HW



i can see your point, but him having his last fight, who would you rather go for?? Fedor who is widely considered the best HW ever, or Nog who got smashed by Fedor and was never even close to looking like he had a chance, not taking anything away from Nog, but if randy beats him so what?? Fedor Smashed him twice. I know Randys record at HW isnt all that impressive, and its alot of hype, but he's done alot in this sport, and if he had more than a fight left in him, than yea Nog would be the obvious choice, but the age is catchin up to him, and he probably realized that his body can't take it anymore. so being his last fight, he obviously wants to go for Fedor, not the guy second to Fedor....
bullettdodger
4/13/08 4:46:12PM

Posted by juanez13


Posted by Manak

BS, i think this is just a bad match-up for randy and he knows it so Randy is ridin his wave to fedor. He beat tim and GG, yet nog doesnt make since. nog has beaten everyone expect for fedor (one was a NC), if Randy wants to be best fight the best and that includes nog cause Randy's record is not all impressive at HW



i can see your point, but him having his last fight, who would you rather go for?? Fedor who is widely considered the best HW ever, or Nog who got smashed by Fedor and was never even close to looking like he had a chance, not taking anything away from Nog, but if randy beats him so what?? Fedor Smashed him twice. I know Randys record at HW isnt all that impressive, and its alot of hype, but he's done alot in this sport, and if he had more than a fight left in him, than yea Nog would be the obvious choice, but the age is catchin up to him, and he probably realized that his body can't take it anymore. so being his last fight, he obviously wants to go for Fedor, not the guy second to Fedor....

JoeMimic
4/13/08 4:51:58PM
I agree with the fact that he's trying to go for the biggest fight but he signed a contract and should honor that contract and fight Minotauro. The only reason he won't honor it is because he knows he'd lose and his fight with Fedor would be gone.
gartface
4/13/08 4:54:07PM
Sounds scared
juanez13
4/13/08 4:59:59PM

Posted by gartface

Sounds scared



He sure does, because he rather fight Fedor instead of the guy that got smashed by Fedor 2wice..........Im not a randy nuthugger but i just dont understand when people make accusations like this....but hey it might just be me

i dont think dishonoring his contract was the best way to do it, but he thought Fedor would end up in the UFC, just like everyone else thought every major star from pride would.
Sir_Karl
4/13/08 5:06:44PM
I hear "clucks".
jae_1833
4/13/08 5:10:43PM
Ah man....whatever....I just want to see the guy frickin fight already, Fedor, Nog, AA, anyone he hasn't before would be cool with me. I don't even care what org he fights under, so long as I get to watch! What I am tired of though is all these stupid interviews with him that don't add up to a pile of beans!!!!
Manak
4/13/08 5:16:40PM

Posted by bullettdodger


Posted by juanez13


Posted by Manak

BS, i think this is just a bad match-up for randy and he knows it so Randy is ridin his wave to fedor. He beat tim and GG, yet nog doesnt make since. nog has beaten everyone expect for fedor (one was a NC), if Randy wants to be best fight the best and that includes nog cause Randy's record is not all impressive at HW



i can see your point, but him having his last fight, who would you rather go for?? Fedor who is widely considered the best HW ever, or Nog who got smashed by Fedor and was never even close to looking like he had a chance, not taking anything away from Nog, but if randy beats him so what?? Fedor Smashed him twice. I know Randys record at HW isnt all that impressive, and its alot of hype, but he's done alot in this sport, and if he had more than a fight left in him, than yea Nog would be the obvious choice, but the age is catchin up to him, and he probably realized that his body can't take it anymore. so being his last fight, he obviously wants to go for Fedor, not the guy second to Fedor....





good point but either way i dont think randy could beat fedor or nog.
thatfedorsohotrightnow
4/13/08 5:20:00PM
Randy is scarred of Nog.
jgtribbett
4/13/08 5:29:07PM
i dont know that he would lose to both. i think he beat nog. he knows enough (plenty) on the ground to hold nog and pound him and he has good boxers to counter his stand up too. I just think that he wants to quite on top. And if he takes the chance and fights nog and looses... well that kinda seals the deal.. he'd probably never fight fedor. I think he see's one good fight left.
jlock003
4/13/08 5:41:41PM
Okay, so I am a huge captain america fan, but seriously....this whole thing has just gotten rediculous. I can't lie, I would love to see the Couture Fedore fight, but to pretend that Fedor is clearly the best heavyweight in the world at the current moment when he hasn't fought any legitimate contenders in two years is crazy. Beyond that, sure Randy Couture dismantled Gonzaga right....sure he did, and Gonzaga is a star on the rise right..... NO! The guy throws a good headkick to crocop and drops him...then he gets dismantled by Couture.....then he gets dropped by Fabrico Werdum...and before you know it the rising star is sittin on a 1 and 2 of his last three record....That hardly sounds like the best to me. now granted Gonzaga could come back and show us some talent in the future, but Couture's victory is looking less and less impressive. Furthermore, if Tim Silvia's big ass would have fought Couture as good as he did big Nog, then Randy would never have run through him the same way. I am not a Silvia fan, but he looked awful against Couture which makes me believe the back injury really was causing him severe pain. He picked Nog apart and got caught, who's to say Nogueira can't catch Randy on the ground ya know? So there we go over the past two fights...Now let's rewind to the three fights before those...you have a win over Mike Vanarsdale....and two severe ass beatings suffered at the hand of Chuck Liddell. Again, I am a huge fan of Couture, but this thing has just gotten out of hand. He needs to get off his high horse and realize that the fans want to see him fight and truly fight the best. Nog is in the top 5 for sure. If you can't get Fedor now, then fight Nogueira it just makes sence!
hodge
4/13/08 5:50:02PM
Randy just stop talking
gravy13
4/13/08 5:57:50PM
I totally agree with Randy.
Copenhagen
4/13/08 6:16:09PM

Posted by jlock003

Okay, so I am a huge captain america fan, but seriously....this whole thing has just gotten rediculous. I can't lie, I would love to see the Couture Fedore fight, but to pretend that Fedor is clearly the best heavyweight in the world at the current moment when he hasn't fought any legitimate contenders in two years is crazy. Beyond that, sure Randy Couture dismantled Gonzaga right....sure he did, and Gonzaga is a star on the rise right..... NO! The guy throws a good headkick to crocop and drops him...then he gets dismantled by Couture.....then he gets dropped by Fabrico Werdum...and before you know it the rising star is sittin on a 1 and 2 of his last three record....That hardly sounds like the best to me. now granted Gonzaga could come back and show us some talent in the future, but Couture's victory is looking less and less impressive. Furthermore, if Tim Silvia's big ass would have fought Couture as good as he did big Nog, then Randy would never have run through him the same way. I am not a Silvia fan, but he looked awful against Couture which makes me believe the back injury really was causing him severe pain. He picked Nog apart and got caught, who's to say Nogueira can't catch Randy on the ground ya know? So there we go over the past two fights...Now let's rewind to the three fights before those...you have a win over Mike Vanarsdale....and two severe ass beatings suffered at the hand of Chuck Liddell. Again, I am a huge fan of Couture, but this thing has just gotten out of hand. He needs to get off his high horse and realize that the fans want to see him fight and truly fight the best. Nog is in the top 5 for sure. If you can't get Fedor now, then fight Nogueira it just makes sence!



Good post.
GSPCanada
4/13/08 6:30:24PM
I understand this subject has been beaten to death but I think its time i give my opinion on the whole subject

First of all I do not believe Couture could beat either Fedor or Nog. As far as Nog goes the guy is incredible on the ground you can't compare his ground skills to someone like Gonzaga or any one else that Randy has fought and not to mention he could just as easily get on top of Couture and pound him out there. Couture is a decent stand up fighter but these guys have about the same reach so I really can't see couture dominating Nog in the stand up for 5 rounds. Couture would really have to dominate the entire fight because I do not see any one finishing Nog, especially Couture. who meanwhile has been knocked out and submitted plenty enough.

Ya Nog is the #2 guy in the world and he lost to Fedor twice beating or not he actually went to decision with Fedor twice Fedor has 2 decisions to Nog and one to Crocop in the last 5 years. I personally think Couture should want to beat Nog and atleast establish him as #2 and imo opinion I wouldn't rank him any higher than #5 overall because I think Crocop would beat em in a ring, Liddell is better and then Nog and Fedor.

At first I respected his decision to retire on top he had made a comeback and finished with the title. Why should he just keep fighting guys like gonzaga until another liddell comes around and knocks him out. but the whole idea is he still wants to keep fighting so he should fight. The whole claim that he doesn't know how many fights he has left makes me thinks hes scared because its not the fighting that wears u down its the training and I know Randy is staying in shape because he is expecting the Fedor fight soon

sorry for the long 2 cents
three_days_of_grey
4/13/08 6:31:24PM
Randy is right. It makes much more sense to not fight anybody and getting the shit sued out of yourself for breach of contract. Using MMAth is a much better approach to determine who you should or should not fight. After all, Gonzaga was ranked number two HW in the universe behind Fedor.
Randy should fight Kohsaka, the only man to defeat Emelianenko, even though it was with an illegal elbow that caused the damage, because elbows are legal in UFC.


-OUT-
Greene33
4/13/08 7:14:58PM
I think he’s a great fighter, but he’s been beat by Fedor twice

Randy has been beaten by Chuck Liddell twice, Nog was decisioned twice and Randy was the victim of two brutal KO's, i was a big supporter of Randy's when this all started, but as time goes by i just cant back him up anymore, why wouldn't he want to fight Nog and get out of his UFC contract? Randy obviously doesn't want to fight in the UFC anymore, so why doesn't he just say that? Why does he try and make it sound like Nog doesn't deserve to fight him because of his 2 losses to Fedor?
king_katool
4/13/08 7:39:27PM
both of these fighters have lost most of the respect, where is their love to fight, all athletes have the love to play the game, these fighters love to fight, so there 2 guys need to stop with all this shit and fight, fedor gets some props for accepting the fight vs tim but damn it took a long time, randy shut up with your hollywood drame lace the gloves and get in the cage
juanez13
4/13/08 7:54:52PM

Posted by king_katool

both of these fighters have lost most of the respect, where is their love to fight, all athletes have the love to play the game, these fighters love to fight, so there 2 guys need to stop with all this shit and fight, fedor gets some props for accepting the fight vs tim but damn it took a long time, randy shut up with your hollywood drame lace the gloves and get in the cage



if things were as simple as saying OK lets fight, this fight would have happened a Longgg time ago, Unfourtunately they arent.
cmill21
4/13/08 8:06:12PM
Well I think this is rediculous, Nog just submitted a guy in three that Randy coulden't finish, and by Randy's logic Fedor shoulden't want to fight Randy he should be going after a fight against Chuck, or Barnett, or Ricco, all of whom smashed Randy. Poor choice of words Mr. Couture. I think for Randy to win he would have to put Nog on his back and avoid subs for 5 full rounds, which I don't think he could do.
JimiMak
4/13/08 8:06:56PM
Fedor can't happen til Aug or later. Having a fight (nog) makes more sense than being a 44 yr old on the sideline for a yr and then coming back to fight Fedor after he uses Tim as a "warmup". And if Tim beats Fedor everything Randy has said for months goes out the window. Nog makes more sense and he's prob'ly burnt too many bridges to get that fight by then. He's really in a pickle and hoping Fedor doesn't screw up and lose this June.
GSPCanada
4/13/08 8:39:02PM

Posted by cmill21

Well I think this is rediculous, Nog just submitted a guy in three that Randy coulden't finish, and by Randy's logic Fedor shoulden't want to fight Randy he should be going after a fight against Chuck, or Barnett, or Ricco, all of whom smashed Randy. Poor choice of words Mr. Couture. I think for Randy to win he would have to put Nog on his back and avoid subs for 5 full rounds, which I don't think he could do.






That's really well put Couture is using MMath. Never really thought of it that way why should Fedor wanna lose his legacy against couture either. it makes no sense for him to fight a 17-8 fighter. I also don't think couture could control Nog for 5 rounds without being submitted. With a record like Couture's he should be happy to have a chance to prove he's the #2 heavyweight
CantAndleDaRiddum
4/13/08 9:13:13PM
randy doesnt make sense. IMO this has been enormously disrespectful to Nog from the beginning. im really starting dislike "captain america"
Darnok
4/13/08 10:19:12PM
It's all publicity for Randy. He knows he can't beat Nog or Fedor, but he gets lots of atention claiming ne is too good for Nog and only wants Fedor. Maybe this is his way of selling more shirts.

It is kinda of funny that most people are changing their opinion of Randy now that it appears he is completely ducking fights.
tdietel01
4/13/08 11:17:11PM
this is really getting old on randys part. how many fights does he have left on his contract? why not just fight nog? IF he could actually finish him, which fedor didnt do then he could have at least that to use as leverage for a fight against fedor. randy is acting like a high talent football player that is sitting on his couch like a crybaby saying if i dont get what i want right now im not gonna play with you guys anymore.
prozacnation1978
4/14/08 12:02:27AM
i really am losing respect for randy,
i actually hope he loses so he has two fights left on contract, fight big nog and then fedor.
jakeiceman
4/14/08 1:13:12AM
Mehh this is gettting old but I do agree in part with Couture....the whole ditching out on the contract is shit but the logic behind it is somewhat there. I disagree with everyone though, its not likely that Nog would submit Couture quite as easily as everyone thinks he will. Randy isnt known for his submissions but the guy is an insane wrestler I have full faith in the fact that this is enough to avoid a submission. I guess I am just a ignorant MMA fan but I havent seen shit from Nog that really impresses me. Maybe I should bust out some old PRIDE tapes and it might change my opinion but catching Sylvia in a submittion isnt that great of an accomplishment. I think Randy would walk through Nog and would have an excellent shot against Fedor. I would actually pick him to win it. But who cares really because it looks like its going to be a war of words for a long time. I guess we will wait and see if it makes it to a cage or not.
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