Rampage vs. Jardine?

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aceprone
2/5/07 4:21:26PM
I was thinking about this match up. I think this should be the fight to have to see if the winner gets Chuck.
Jardine coming off a big win off of Forrest and Rampage wanting at least one more warmup fight before Chuck, I think this a safe fight for him. Jardines got good standup but I think Rampages is better and stronger. This fight would sell and I think Rampage would be the huge favorite and can pull the win out easily.
Playground_Samurai
2/5/07 4:50:52PM
I could see that happening. Although my opinion is they give Jardine the title shot first. Chuck is gonna have to have atleast one more fight in between the time he fights Rampage, and who else should they give to Chuck? Rashad hasn't fought any worthy opponents to say he deserves a title shot. Jardine pretty much destroyed the only other top contender that would've gotten the next title shot if he would've won in Forrest. I see Chuck vs. Jardine as marketable and entertaining, so my opinion on Rampage vs. Jardine is shouldn't happen. I say Rampage vs. either Machida, Bonnar, or maybe even Griffin. Probably not Griffin though. I don't think the UFC would do that to him.
Stickan
2/5/07 4:53:40PM
That is a good match-up. And kinda perfect for Rampage. Jardine is slammable and can be owned standing up but always puts up a great fight.
Reignofterror
2/5/07 6:23:34PM
I agree, I dont think the UFC will want to put Forrest up against Rampage since that could lower his chances as being a future champion if Rampage beats him. However, Jardine is almost used as their scapegoat to prove that Rampage is indeed a great fighter since he beat the same fighter who beat Griffin. I know MMath is ridiculous but im just putting this in the perspective of a casual UFC fan.
shawneth
2/5/07 7:10:25PM
I do think this will be Rampage's next match. OR RAshad but i can't see the UFC wanting to ruin Rashad's title chances yet. My opinion is they should get him to fight Babalu. Babalu chances for another title shot were ruined when he got his ass kicked by Liddell so they dont have to worry about ruining his potential title shots. But your right, it'll proby be Jardine.
Nacho
2/5/07 7:17:56PM
Plus Evans and Jardine probably don't want to fight each other, as training partners.
JunCTion
2/6/07 12:07:58AM
you know, i just want to see good fights. i don't want to watch any more safe fights. i don't want the path layed out perfectly for a more popular fighter to get a title shot. that's how the wwe does it. herring was supposed to have a safe fight. akiro shoji was awsome when he won and when he lost. he fought his butt off no matter who it was.
DoTheMMAth
2/6/07 1:22:47AM
I think they'll make Rampage's 2nd fight in the UFC vs Chuck. We know that 1) Chuck wants to fight Rampage 2) Dana sets up the fights how he sees fit (reference the Rashad and Dana beef related posts as of late) 3) Chuck is the current UFC posterboy and most successful current champ in the organization 4) They don't mind take highly valued Pride talent (a la Anderson Silva) and giving them a quick title shot.

Matters not if Rampage wants a couple more tune-up fights inthe greater picture of the way things seem to actually work
aceprone
2/6/07 2:24:45AM

Posted by JunCTion

you know, i just want to see good fights. i don't want to watch any more safe fights. i don't want the path layed out perfectly for a more popular fighter to get a title shot. that's how the wwe does it. herring was supposed to have a safe fight. akiro shoji was awsome when he won and when he lost. he fought his butt off no matter who it was.



I totally agree with you. That's why I think Jardine is a great match up. Because he can put you out. I don't know what Greg Jackson is feeding his fighters, but they're causeing some upsets! I think it makes a great fight!
hippysmacker
2/6/07 3:13:12AM
Rampage's manager said on the radio that his contract expires in July. Chuck is not suppossed to be back till June. To get a title shot he will have to sign a new contract first. I say he fight's twice more before then barring injury. A Jardine/Babalu/Forest type being the 3rd if contract negotiations look good. They'll probably give him Irvin or even Machida who they have less invested in and hasn't been on TV or PPV yet IMO. Machida could beat him ,though I doubt it. He should run through Irvin.
Stickan
2/6/07 5:35:58AM

Posted by hippysmacker

Rampage's manager said on the radio that his contract expires in July. Chuck is not suppossed to be back till June. To get a title shot he will have to sign a new contract first. I say he fight's twice more before then barring injury. A Jardine/Babalu/Forest type being the 3rd if contract negotiations look good. They'll probably give him Irvin or even Machida who they have less invested in and hasn't been on TV or PPV yet IMO. Machida could beat him ,though I doubt it. He should run through Irvin.



If Rampage wins his next fight I'm sure he extends his contract with the UFC. He loves being in the spotlight and all the attention in the US he gets now.

I don't think he'd fight Irvin cuz I think they're friends. Plus Irvin is a 185er now isn't he? If they'd fight Rampage would commit a black on white crime and probably murder James.
hippysmacker
2/6/07 5:52:18AM
Don't know if thier friends or not, but he's still a 205 lb. fighter. He used to be a HVY. The reason I think Irvin is he looks like a fighter, and people seem to like him, but he's not good enough to beat Rampage IMO.
ac_gi
2/6/07 6:55:27AM
I don't want to see this fight. I like both fighters very much, and one would have to lose. I guess I'm being a little greedy.
Street_Fighter
2/6/07 10:08:29AM
I agree with you. I'm glad Rampage is in the UFC an d I think he could beat Jardine also. After Jardine I think Rampage should get a title fight against Liddell.
JunCTion
2/6/07 11:26:12AM
yeah, jardine proved he could step up in a big fight (where does thst leave forrest now). i don't think he would make it easy for rampage.
Stickan
2/6/07 1:36:50PM
It seems I'm the only one to think that Jardines win over Forrest wasn't that impressive.
I think Forrest got the better of the stand-up until the knockdown and eventually kncok out. Sure there's no luck in the ring but I just feel Forrest would win that fight 7-8 times out of 10.

That's always why I think Rampage would beat up Jardine pretty badly. Sure he would make it a fight as he always does but I think it would be a pretty lop-sided decision or a TKO in the 3rd.
Thalzaar
2/6/07 2:41:08PM
I love both Rampage and Jardine as fighters. Jardine, however, doesn't have much of a standup defense and eats a lot of punches. Most of his fights he is always busted up, but he can take a good beating.

This would be a good matchup but I think Rampage would win.
Trapt1nw0nder
2/6/07 3:55:18PM
Rampage is the much better striker and i dont think Jardine ...i think Rampage is just a little better in everything....except for maybe kicks
JunCTion
2/6/07 5:05:35PM
you're right, but who else is coming up?
what i would really like to see is rampage / babalu or rampage / tito(i don't care if their friends and either does dana) the only problem is if one of them would win cause they just got their shots. and if chuck beats rampage who's next? what happens to the light heavyweight division? i definitely don't want to see another tuf the comeback
cowcatcher
2/6/07 5:29:36PM
interesting match up and would be fun to watch, but i think rampage gets fed a can as a tune up to getting chuck just to add hype to rampage for the TUF nuthuggers. jardine may end up being the one gettinig the shot at chuck because if rampage has 1 more tune up chuck is gonna have to fight someone in the meantime. if i had to pick a winner between the 2 i'd go with rampage, jardine's quality wins are against TUF guys who while promising, are no where near rampage in terms of experience and savvy.
JunCTion
2/6/07 5:55:15PM
then lets see rampage / rashad. chuck / jardine would be fine then they can do rashad / jardine to see where they stand.
aceprone
2/7/07 1:22:58PM
One thing that would test Rampage on this fight is how good Jardines take down defense. I know it's not the same par as churck's but it is very very close. So if Rampage can get through Jardines take down defense then Rampage could have a good chance against Chucks take down defense.
SICKRICK
2/7/07 3:04:06PM
i think jardine got really lucky vs. griffin.. i think rampage would kill the dean of mean.. i dont even think it should be booked but what the hell its just one more step to chuck
BabbyHughes
2/7/07 3:32:33PM

It seems I'm the only one to think that Jardines win over Forrest wasn't that impressive.

I just think Forrest got caught, kind of like when Cro Cop got caught by Randleman, even though that's far more embarrasing.

I think Rampage beats Jardine standing and on the ground. Rampage has great head movement and better stand up imo. It would be a good fight to see.
jocksmall
2/7/07 9:04:50PM
i would like to see jackson vs evans more than jackson vs jardine but jardine would be interesting. rampage would win either fight. renalto vs rampage or tito vs rampage would be even better. those are match ups that we wont get in the ufc. they try to position fighters where pride gives us the best possible fights. but you are probably right dana will give us rampage vs a good reality star
roadking95th
2/9/07 10:37:27PM
I think the weight class is to the point where they are going to have to start feeding the rising stars to Liddell, Tito, Babalu, and Rampage. The only way the UFC loses out is if Tito and Babalu clear everyone out except Chuck, then we are back to square one. There is enough talent and potential, that a loss now will not drastically affect the rising stars' careers 18 months from now.

Let 'em all hammer each other and seperate the men from the boys!
jay98107
2/10/07 12:44:36PM
I doubt this matchup will happen, but if it does, Rampage by first round TKO.
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