Rampage’ injured; Machida gets shot at Evans

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Manak
3/11/09 10:19:43PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news?slug=ki-rampage031109&prov=yhoo&type=lgns


Rampage needs surgery on his jaw so Machida finally gets his shot, most likely UFC 98
RMFG_187
3/11/09 10:44:45PM
Evans round 3 KO. his standup didnt look as good as everyone thinks, but this is a fight where 1 shot will make the difference, and I think it will be in Evans Favor
RMFG_187
3/11/09 10:55:47PM
People call me a hater when it comes to Machida, I give him respect hes a very smart fighter, just not an exciting one. And if he is champ, I will be so angry that he took the easiest path. Matchup with Tito was perfect for him. Silva was worst of the best. I dont think he could get passed Rashads Right hand tho.
grappler0000
3/11/09 11:05:51PM

Posted by RMFG_187

People call me a hater when it comes to Machida, I give him respect hes a very smart fighter, just not an exciting one. And if he is champ, I will be so angry that he took the easiest path. Matchup with Tito was perfect for him. Silva was worst of the best. I dont think he could get passed Rashads Right hand tho.



Plenty of people find Machida boring...I find his fights very interesting and frankly can't get enough of em. Previous matchups aside, when he beats Rashad, he will have beat the champ, so there will be no debate on his abilities.
gartface
3/11/09 11:12:01PM

Posted by grappler0000


Posted by RMFG_187

People call me a hater when it comes to Machida, I give him respect hes a very smart fighter, just not an exciting one. And if he is champ, I will be so angry that he took the easiest path. Matchup with Tito was perfect for him. Silva was worst of the best. I dont think he could get passed Rashads Right hand tho.



Plenty of people find Machida boring...I find his fights very interesting and frankly can't get enough of em. Previous matchups aside, when he beats Rashad, he will have beat the champ, so there will be no debate on his abilities.



I completely agree Grappler. I love watching Machida fight, I think he fights a very smart and very fun fight to watch. I love seeing the other fighters get frustrated, and fight angry, which ends up costing them because they're usually the first to make a mistake. Machida is very good at capitalizing on mistakes as we saw in the Thiago Silva fight.

The fight with Rashad will be a very counterattack oriented fight on both of their parts, but I think that once Rashad starts trying to swing for the fences, he'll get caught by more technical striking and he'll get outpointed.
chickmagnet
3/11/09 11:49:21PM
Machida by domination
cloud301336
3/11/09 11:55:47PM
i can see Evans starting slow in the beginning and start putting it on Machida as the minutes go by, but for some reason i think the fight will be determined if Evans can take him down, but considering Machida is a savage and all i'm not sure if Evans can do it. plus Machida's stand up is by no means bad what so ever.

I'm gonna say the loser is whoever chase's the other
Boo_Radley21
3/12/09 12:24:54AM
Boo Lets go Evans.
Ordep
3/12/09 1:53:10AM
Ordep wants double KO
Shogunator800
3/12/09 2:20:51AM

Posted by RMFG_187

People call me a hater when it comes to Machida, I give him respect hes a very smart fighter, just not an exciting one. And if he is champ, I will be so angry that he took the easiest path. Matchup with Tito was perfect for him. Silva was worst of the best. I dont think he could get passed Rashads Right hand tho.





So if he beats Rashad, a guy who beat the longest reigning champ in recent years to get his title shot at Forrest, you'll question his path to the belt as easy?

Starting with wining streaks on the way to a title shot only, maybe you should take a look at who did what to get previous title shots in the UFC:


Machida:

1. Sam Hoger Win Unanimous Decision
2. David Heath Win Unanimous Decision
3. Kazuhiro Nakamura Win Unanimous Decision
4. Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou Win Submission
5. Tito Ortiz Win Unanimous Decision
6. Thiago Silva Win KO

Rashad Evans:

1. Michael Bisping Win Split Decision
2. Chuck Liddell Win KO

Forrest Griffin:

1. Hector Ramirez Win Unanimous Decision
2. Mauricio Shogun Rua Win Submission

Dan Henderson:

AUTOMATIC TITLES HOT FOR BEING PRIDE CHAMPION

Quinton Rampage Jackson

1. Marvin Eastman Win KO

Tito Ortiz

1. Patrick Cote Win Unanimous Decision
2. Forrest Griffin Win Split Decision
3. Vitor Belfort Win Split Decision
4. Ken Shamrock Win TKO
5. Ken Shamrock Win TKO

Renato Sobral

1. Travis Wiuff Win Submission
2. Chael Sonnen Win Submission
3. Mike Van Arsdale Win Submission

Randy Couture

1. Mike Van Arsdale Win Submission

Jeremy Horn

AUTOMATIC TITLE SHOT GIVEN TO FOR AN EASILY AVENGED LOSS VICTORY FOR CHUCK

Chuck Liddell

1. Tito Ortiz KO
2. Vernon White KO

Randy Couture

Automatic Rematch due to cut loss to Vitor

Vitor Belfort

1. Marvin Eastman TKO

I'm going to stop right here.


It's painfully obvious that both Machida has had the most difficult route if you count uninterrupted UFC victories leading up to a title shot. Rashad's list would be much larger if it wasn't for the Tito Ortiz draw. Let's not forget that Tito was Chuck's last successful title defense too. You can deny it, but Machida has been given very tough matches. He's been given a lot of opponents that could give him problems, and then a lot of other fighters simply aren't interested in fighting him. Yes, this list does include Forrest Griffin and Chuck Liddell. Neither were interested in a bout with him and you can't really fault Machida for that.

Twenty20Dollars
3/12/09 2:23:05AM
So it was a jaw injury for rampage. Cus I thought I heard it was a hand injury. Anways UFC 98 was too soon for rampage to get back in there. I can only hope we see Evans vs Rampage after that trash talk.


Also I dont think Evans is a fighter that is going to fight angry or frustrated when he fights machida. I dont think he's get angry and then overly aggressive and fall out of a gameplan.

All in all Im just glad they got a replacement main-event for ufc 98.
MMAcca
3/12/09 2:30:36AM

Posted by grappler0000


Posted by RMFG_187

People call me a hater when it comes to Machida, I give him respect hes a very smart fighter, just not an exciting one. And if he is champ, I will be so angry that he took the easiest path. Matchup with Tito was perfect for him. Silva was worst of the best. I dont think he could get passed Rashads Right hand tho.



Plenty of people find Machida boring...I find his fights very interesting and frankly can't get enough of em. Previous matchups aside, when he beats Rashad, he will have beat the champ, so there will be no debate on his abilities.



Exactly grappler0000
Gannon
3/12/09 2:50:57AM
I've been telling a buddy of mine for a couple of years that MAchida is going to win the belt being undefeated. Finally we get to see how good he really is. Great fight!!! So freaking excited.
GSPCanada
3/12/09 3:11:46AM
I don't think this will be the matchup everyone thinks it will be, alot of machida's fights do have guys getting frustrated and giving what he wants, but if u look back at the evans liddell fight rashad has got alot of patience so dont expect evans to just come rushing in, also Machida lacks control when he gets on top when u look at his fights he repeatedly takes the back takes mount but cant do anything, this one is tough to call, im going machida but who knows how
Wolfenstein
3/12/09 4:38:20AM
The hardcore fans finally get what they want. Justice is served, and all is right with the world.

I actually think Rashad has the best chance to defeat Machida out of all the other LHW's. His patience, gameplanning, and explosiveness should make for a competetive fight. It could start off slow, but I expect there to be some real fireworks everytime these two engage. Should be a real strategic matchup.
Kpro
3/12/09 5:29:54AM
Can we make it a triple threat match with Brad Imes in there too ?
gartface
3/12/09 8:01:03AM

Posted by Kpro

Can we make it a triple threat match with Brad Imes in there too ?


I was hoping Bill Mahood.
tmas
3/12/09 8:36:40AM

Posted by Shogunator800


Posted by RMFG_187

People call me a hater when it comes to Machida, I give him respect hes a very smart fighter, just not an exciting one. And if he is champ, I will be so angry that he took the easiest path. Matchup with Tito was perfect for him. Silva was worst of the best. I dont think he could get passed Rashads Right hand tho.





So if he beats Rashad, a guy who beat the longest reigning champ in recent years to get his title shot at Forrest, you'll question his path to the belt as easy?

Starting with wining streaks on the way to a title shot only, maybe you should take a look at who did what to get previous title shots in the UFC:


Machida:

1. Sam Hoger Win Unanimous Decision
2. David Heath Win Unanimous Decision
3. Kazuhiro Nakamura Win Unanimous Decision
4. Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou Win Submission
5. Tito Ortiz Win Unanimous Decision
6. Thiago Silva Win KO

Rashad Evans:

1. Michael Bisping Win Split Decision
2. Chuck Liddell Win KO

Forrest Griffin:

1. Hector Ramirez Win Unanimous Decision
2. Mauricio Shogun Rua Win Submission

Dan Henderson:

AUTOMATIC TITLES HOT FOR BEING PRIDE CHAMPION

Quinton Rampage Jackson

1. Marvin Eastman Win KO

Tito Ortiz

1. Patrick Cote Win Unanimous Decision
2. Forrest Griffin Win Split Decision
3. Vitor Belfort Win Split Decision
4. Ken Shamrock Win TKO
5. Ken Shamrock Win TKO

Renato Sobral

1. Travis Wiuff Win Submission
2. Chael Sonnen Win Submission
3. Mike Van Arsdale Win Submission

Randy Couture

1. Mike Van Arsdale Win Submission

Jeremy Horn

AUTOMATIC TITLE SHOT GIVEN TO FOR AN EASILY AVENGED LOSS VICTORY FOR CHUCK

Chuck Liddell

1. Tito Ortiz KO
2. Vernon White KO

Randy Couture

Automatic Rematch due to cut loss to Vitor

Vitor Belfort

1. Marvin Eastman TKO

I'm going to stop right here.


It's painfully obvious that both Machida has had the most difficult route if you count uninterrupted UFC victories leading up to a title shot. Rashad's list would be much larger if it wasn't for the Tito Ortiz draw. Let's not forget that Tito was Chuck's last successful title defense too. You can deny it, but Machida has been given very tough matches. He's been given a lot of opponents that could give him problems, and then a lot of other fighters simply aren't interested in fighting him. Yes, this list does include Forrest Griffin and Chuck Liddell. Neither were interested in a bout with him and you can't really fault Machida for that.





A draw is not a loss Rashad is still on a 13 fight win streak. You cant say he isnt fact is he has 13 wins, and 0 losses. Therefore to accurtaly depict this, and for your argument to be fact.

Win Forrest Griffin TKO (Punches)
Win Chuck Liddell
Win Michael Bisping
Draw Tito Ortiz Draw
Win Sean Salmon KO (Head Kick)
Win Jason Lambert KO (Punches)
Win Stephan Bonnar Decision (Majority)
Win Sam Hoger Decision (Split)

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With that being said, i think what wolfenstein thinks, both guys are very paitent, both have similar styles, both guys wlll look to do the same thing. THis fight is gonna be awesome, i love Machida, and Rashad, they both have the talent to beat the other......However world class wrestling, great striking, and a good (although unproven) ground game, and pure speed AND power. Rashad wins by KO late in the fight to retain his title and stop a split decision going either way.
DCRage
3/12/09 8:54:56AM
It's more accurate to say Rashad has an unbeaten streak since a Draw really is neither a win or loss, so technically it's not a winning streak. Personally, I'm just happy that Dana can't deny Machida his shot any more. Nothing against Rampage, I just don't like how it seems he was getting preferential treatment from Dana just because he's a big "meal ticket" for the promotion, similar to Chuck, Randy, (Anderson) Silva, and perhaps GSP.
EliasG
3/12/09 11:09:36AM
I always think a former champ should get a shot at being a champ again, espeically when they don't lose in dramatic fashion (ala Forest). In fact, I prefer championship rematches when fights are fairly close or aren't dominant decisions. I think champs are due that when they lose. It's a shame they don't work that into their fight contracts, honestly.
sparky
3/12/09 1:47:58PM
Rashad is going to store the late 4th rd KO on Machida making himself the first person to solve the riddle that is Lyoto Machida!!!!!
Tein_Lung
3/12/09 3:10:26PM

Posted by sparky

Rashad is going to store the late 4th rd KO on Machida making himself the first person to solve the riddle that is Lyoto Machida!!!!!

you should lay off teh drugs... Ray-shad, as bisbing calls him, is not smart enough to solve that puzzle...


IMO Machida will make Rashad look silly... he will pick him apart on the feet then Rashad will try to take Machida down and fail
Boo_Radley21
3/12/09 8:32:50PM

Posted by Tein_Lung


Posted by sparky

Rashad is going to store the late 4th rd KO on Machida making himself the first person to solve the riddle that is Lyoto Machida!!!!!

you should lay off teh drugs... Ray-shad, as bisbing calls him, is not smart enough to solve that puzzle...


IMO Machida will make Rashad look silly... he will pick him apart on the feet then Rashad will try to take Machida down and fail



You should lay off the drugs mon ami. Machida is overrated and will be exposed against Rashad.
bls1919
3/12/09 8:45:35PM
This is soo sick. I cant wait for Machida to tower over Evans as he is sucking dirt off the octagon mat. Machida wins TKO 2nd. When Lyoto does gain control of the LHW crown.....it own't be going anywhere. Machida will REIGN KING for a very long time.

EDIT: With any luck Machida will KO Rashad as he is doing some crotch grabbing taunt. That would be very, very sweet.
cj_striker
3/12/09 9:49:04PM
I'm happy for Machida that he's getting his shot. But poor Rampage, a jaw injury has got to be the worst injury possible for him, because we all know all much he loves to talk s**t. And to have surgery on it too, man he won't be able to run his mouth for awhile, don't get me wrong I love Rampage just as much as the next guy, but it is sightly funny to me that his jaw is injured.
telnights
3/13/09 2:02:30AM
I have to give this to Machida by UD or sub.

I really enjoy watching Machida fight and he is one of my fav fighters. He is a lot better and more exciting then people give him credit for. I also don't understand how anyone could say he has had the easy road to a tittle shot. He is undefeated with 6 straight wins in the UFC. He has beat....

Stephan Bonnar - He can be a tough fight for anyone.

Rich Franklin - If Rich stays at LHW he will be in the top 10.

B.J. Penn - One of the best P4P fighters in the world.

Sam Hoger - Took the current champ to SD which most people felt Hoger won.

Kazuhiro Nakamura - this guy has fought the who's who of MMA and has beat some of the best around.

Sokoudjou - At the time they fought most felt Sokoudjou was the next big thing. He was ranked in the top 10 when they fought. He was even voted fighter of the year in 2007 by many MMA media pages.

Ortiz - Love or hate Ortiz he is still a great fighter. He beat the current champ and the only reason the record doesn't show it is because of a point deduction. If Ortiz was still fighting he would be ranked in the top 10.

Thiago Silva - was 13-0 when they fought and was ranked in 8th in the world.

I think that gets my point across. I also cant stand when people say he is a boring fighter. But is he really or does that just mean you don't like or fully understand what he is doing in the cage. I think some people say that because he doesn't stand there in eat punches. I have found that most of your fans that have been around MMA a long time truely love all aspects of MMA and have a strong understanding of fighting. Its these people that really like Machida as a fighter and enjoy watching him fight.
supatolacyl
3/13/09 7:05:47AM
This fight has great potential to be a fightof the year canidate with the talent that both fighters have. However, I see this being a very inactive fight!! We all know Machida is an elusive fighter that doesn't take much damage and Evans seems to be a very intellegent fighter coming from an awesome camp that develops great game plans. I think Evans knows close fights more often goes to the Champ and with that in mind I don't think Evans will engage or chase Machida around knowing that if Machida wants the belt he will have to be the one engaging. Evans should give Machida a taste of his own medicine be being a little less passive and counter punch him like he did with Liddell. If Evans uses this strategy I see him winning via KO late in the fight or winning a UD fight.
whardin19
3/13/09 7:30:00AM
I got Rashad all the way in this one. Machida is a good fighter but I think stylistically this fight is in Rashads favor. He's way quicker than anyone Machida has fought. Rashad will not get frustrated by anything Machida throws at him and he'll have a very good gameplan coming in. Rashad UD.
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