Rampage Could "Definitely" Beat Machida

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DCRage
6/4/09 11:39:35AM
So says, of course, Michael Bisping. And he thinks current Wolfslair training partner Quinton Jackson is the man who will beat Lyoto Machida first. Bisping also mentions that he actually asked UFC for a Machida fight a couple years ago, but wound up getting Elvis Sinosic instead.

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jiujitsufreak74
6/4/09 11:47:39AM
Bisping is dam lucky Machida was not able to fight him. if he fought Machida instead of Elvis he would not be half as famous as he is and he would be making a lot less money.
kopower
6/4/09 12:18:05PM

Posted by jiujitsufreak74

Bisping is dam lucky Machida was not able to fight him. if he fought Machida instead of Elvis he would not be half as famous as he is and he would be making a lot less money.



Ain't that the truth

Rampage beating Machida=False
sparky
6/4/09 12:50:25PM
Rampage cannot beat Machida in my opinion nor can anyone else in the 205 division!!!!
grappler0000
6/4/09 12:53:51PM
...in a dance off.
TNPanther78
6/4/09 1:09:43PM
I don't see Rampage beating Machida, I love Rampage, but he would be to slow for Machida, and Machida would do the same as he did to Rashad just dodge Rampages shots and catch Rampage.
lohmann
6/4/09 1:20:04PM
Of course Jackson could beat Machida. It would be ridiculous to count him out of any fight.

Is it likely? No. Does Rampage have a chance? Better than a lot of others.
KaibaThedon
6/4/09 1:31:38PM
He can beat him at the Chuck Lidell impression... and dancing... and of course he probably does the Rampage howl better... but in a fight? Naw, its Machida all the way
Hendo67
6/4/09 2:03:37PM
Machida/Jackson will end much like Evans/Machida.

Shogun will probably be Machida's toughest test at 205.
emfleek
6/4/09 2:25:46PM

Posted by sparky

Rampage cannot beat Machida in my opinion nor can anyone else in the 205 division!!!!



...until someone DOES beat him and then every one swings to the next nut vine to hang from someone else sack.

Everyone in MMA is beatable, folks. At some point in time, everyone is going to lose.
StorminYourman
6/4/09 2:29:39PM

Posted by emfleek


Posted by sparky

Rampage cannot beat Machida in my opinion nor can anyone else in the 205 division!!!!



...until someone DOES beat him and then every one swings to the next nut vine to hang from someone else sack.

Everyone in MMA is beatable, folks. At some point in time, everyone is going to lose.


except Fedor

In all honesty Rampage probaly has the mst powerful hands in that division with Manhoef closing in on a close second. If he can connect with punches then he can win.However that is a big IF!
DevonFoxy
6/4/09 2:34:59PM
I think the word in parentheses should be "Could". Which is true he "could" win but he's going to be the underdog for a reason.
Every time Bisping opens his mouth honestly i just turn my ears off because I could careless what he has to say.
billycarnage
6/4/09 2:36:37PM

Posted by Hendo67

Machida/Jackson will end much like Evans/Machida.

Shogun will probably be Machida's toughest test at 205.


I like Shoguns odds. Honestly I dont think Rampage will beat Rashad much less Machida. Rampage's style plays right into Machida's stregths. I do think he may last longer than Rashad did though.

I agree with Rashad that Forrest would be a tough match up for Machida as well.
Darnok
6/4/09 2:52:04PM

Posted by emfleek
and then every one swings to the next nut vine to hang from someone else sack.



Wow, this totally describes 99% of the so called MMA hard core fans. Good Call
telnights
6/4/09 3:18:55PM
Well I feel Rashad had a better chance of beating Machida than Rampage does and we see how that went. I see this fight being around 80/20 in Machida's favor. Rampage lacks the speed, footwork, and not checking leg kicks to beat Machida and his style plays right in to Machida's hands not as bad as Shogun's style does but still does. I giving Shogun even less of a chance than Rampage and feel the Shogun fight is around 90/10. I feel the Shogun fight will go down a lot like the Thiago fight did.
4u2nv
6/4/09 4:06:01PM

Posted by telnights

Well I feel Rashad had a better chance of beating Machida than Rampage does and we see how that went. I see this fight being around 80/20 in Machida's favor. Rampage lacks the speed, footwork, and not checking leg kicks to beat Machida and his style plays right in to Machida's hands not as bad as Shogun's style does but still does. I giving Shogun even less of a chance than Rampage and feel the Shogun fight is around 90/10. I feel the Shogun fight will go down a lot like the Thiago fight did.



I agree with ur last sentence. I think if Rampage can get through Rashad then he'll be ready for Lyoto
billycarnage
6/4/09 4:29:32PM

Posted by 4u2nv


Posted by telnights

Well I feel Rashad had a better chance of beating Machida than Rampage does and we see how that went. I see this fight being around 80/20 in Machida's favor. Rampage lacks the speed, footwork, and not checking leg kicks to beat Machida and his style plays right in to Machida's hands not as bad as Shogun's style does but still does. I giving Shogun even less of a chance than Rampage and feel the Shogun fight is around 90/10. I feel the Shogun fight will go down a lot like the Thiago fight did.



I agree with ur last sentence. I think if Rampage can get through Rashad then he'll be ready for Lyoto



What is it about Shogun that makes you think he'll lose like Thiago? He is better than Thiago at everything. He is more technical in his stand up and has great BJJ. He also has a great chin. One of you please explain.
joshd
6/4/09 4:46:20PM
! Shogun dont have enough gas in his tank to last with machida. The only 205 that has a chance against machida is anderson silva!
prozacnation1978
6/4/09 7:58:12PM
i love rampage but honestly i think only guy who could beat machida is a guy who lost to him before
rich franklin, i do think rich is smart enough to come up with a game plan against him or maybe hendo could beat machida in a decision
cloppio
6/4/09 9:59:30PM
my friend Tony could definitely beat Machida!




(just cause i said it, doesn't mean it true)


telnights
6/5/09 12:25:39AM

Posted by billycarnage
What is it about Shogun that makes you think he'll lose like Thiago? He is better than Thiago at everything. He is more technical in his stand up and has great BJJ. He also has a great chin. One of you please explain.



Styles make fights....Thiago style is almost the same as Shogun's as they were training partners and they both came out of Chute Boxe. Now Shogun looked like his stand up was becoming more technical in the Chuck fight but that's one fight. Everyone also said Rashad had a great chin as well and we seen how that went down. But if Shogun follows his Chute Boxe style of fighting it will go down like the Thiago fight did. That all out balls to the wall striking of Chute Boxe plays right in to Machida's style. Now not saying I don't like Shogun because I do but out of everyone of the LHWs I think this fight is the worst match up possible for him.
NewGuy
6/5/09 6:37:38AM
Machida with the belt is too scary to think about. He is in an idea situation to continue to pile up the wins. He is in a defended position now; as in if anyone is going to take the belt they have to take the fight to him and that is where he is the most dangerous (imo).

Aggressive Defense should be synonymous with his name after a few victories.

StevieC
6/5/09 8:09:57AM
Anyone getting sick of Bisping? I don't know, I have never disliked him but I am really looking forward to Hendo kicking his ass.....

Guys Bisping would lose to right now in the MW divsion:

Anderson Silva
Damion Maia
Nate the Great
Wandy Silva
Gegard Mousasi
Rich Franklin
Yushin Okami
Robbie Lawler
and ofcourse Hendo....



He is far from getting there in my opinion...
Leland
6/5/09 8:28:01AM
If Rampage caught Machida with a mean punch it could turn the tables quickly. However, anyone can catch anyone with the right strike and turn the tables.

Statistically, Machida has the upper hand with his speed and precision. I like to mix things up so I hope Rampage catches him with one of those power punches late in the 2nd.
emfleek
6/5/09 9:05:25AM

Posted by StevieC

Anyone getting sick of Bisping?



Actually, I'm the opposite. I used to not be able to stand the guy but he's growing on me.
jlock003
6/5/09 11:58:43AM
I would love to see team mate come out and be honest about this stuff. For instance if Rampage were to come out and say, "I mean I just think Anderson Silva would break his foot off in Bisping's ass." I would really respect that. Instead you have this stuff. I mean as to whether or not Rampage would win a fight against Machida who knows. If Shogun exposes a weekness in Machida's game then maybe Rampage could work on it, but as of right now Rampage's explosive/reckless style would put him in another fight with a more proficient Forrest. Leg kicks from hell and a rediculous stiking range. That being said, nobody is unbeatable even Fedor, I'd like to see him keep fighting the best none stop. I will say once he beats barnett his p4p ranking on the playground will skyrocket....well I mean he's already in 1st but it'll be by a much greater percentage....yet even the last emperor is beatable. Everybody is. 3 years ago the world thought Chuck Liddell was damn near bullet proof and couldn't be beaten....now nobody thinks he can beat a top 5 guy...hell maybe even not a top 10 guy....perhaps that is just the naive nature of the casual mma fan, but these "hard core" fans that we have on these forums seem to follow suite. Machida will lose eventually everybody does. Hell it might be to shogun and it might be to rampage/evans. Maybe Liddell will make a comback and take him out LOL! But seriously the day will come when his jump in, strike, and back out style will be figured out and somebody will develope timing against it and lay him out. It's just a matter of when that day will come.
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