Pound for Pound: Nick Diaz .The Difference Between Potheads and Cheaters

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zephead
8/17/07 12:26:59PM
Former UFC and Pride fighter Nick Diaz is a lot of things. He’s impulsive, arrogant, narcissistic, and probably at least a little bit insane.


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jahdoug
8/17/07 12:34:49PM
Awesome article. If he was stoned enough to not feel pain, hes got some better weed than anyone in the history of gettin high. they make it seem like smokin pot would give him PCP superman numbness. He'd get tired quicker and have less fire in him if he were blazed. Give him back the win, he shocked the world and it was the most entertaining fight in months and months
waylon_o
8/17/07 12:50:24PM
I totally agree with the weed thing, but disagree with giving him back the win. I've smoked a ton of weed in my day, and I've never been so ripped that I felt no pain. But...if it's against the rules, it's against the rules. Diaz's fault.
kevietre
8/17/07 12:52:07PM
If you watch the bonus features of the TUF 2 Finale DVD you see Nick taunt Diego and throw something at him and then the security guards get in his face to try and calm him down.
I wouldnt say some of those adjectives about him like arrogant, it's just his personality to mentally prepare for a fight. Even if on paper the bout between Gomi and Diaz says it's a no contest everybody knows he won the fight and should have nothing to be ashamed of.
silverbullet
8/17/07 1:04:23PM
Rules are rules

How dumb do you have to be, to get busted for WEED??? I mean out of all things, weed?! It's not like Diaz received any benefit from it. It's even dumber than doing steroids because steroids at least give you some advantage.

I have no pity for Nick Diaz.
elysianwing
8/17/07 1:52:55PM

Posted by silverbullet

Rules are rules

How dumb do you have to be, to get busted for WEED??? I mean out of all things, weed?! It's not like Diaz received any benefit from it. It's even dumber than doing steroids because steroids at least give you some advantage.

I have no pity for Nick Diaz.



*Checks Sherk's record*

*Checks Royce's record*

*Checks Sylvia's record*

*Checks Bonnar's record*

*Checks Diego's record*

*Checks Guillard's record*



Hmmm....yeah, its just as I thought, you're 100% right....obviously Diaz getting a win taken away from him for weed was due to his own stupidity and not the precedents set by athletic commissions.


Lets be serious here....Diaz broke the rules, sure. However, weed is hardly a performance enhancing drug....and amongst all the recent CONFIRMED steroid/coke/weed/other drug users....Diaz is the only one that had such a severe and idiotic ruling.

if sherk can test positive for steroids and keep his win over franca(who also tested positive for steroids)....how the f*ck is Diaz/Gomi a no contest?
peachfuzzz1305
8/17/07 2:10:00PM
Nick is not a cheater and if he stays at light weight he will be the best in the world

I mean come on the guy has the best boxing and kick a** Jui Jitsu




three_days_of_grey
8/17/07 2:25:09PM
Diaz should have used the Sherk Defense.. His friends made him some pre-fight brownies, he didn't know what was in it and he eats brownies everyday.
The ruling of a win to NC is hypocritical. Guillard is still listed as a loss. Had Diaz lost, would the same apply to him?

-OUT-
EddieBowers
8/17/07 2:41:21PM
Some very good points here. I agree that if it is against the rules then he shoudl be busted for it. however.. the same shoudl deffinatly apply to the steroids users. I do not think that Diaz was so gone that he could not feel pain, I just think he gets off on getting hit. Sick basterd. I say NC all the guys who have been caught using roids, or breaking the rules, including Diaz. Or just keep their money. Do not pay them for the fight, and give them their W or L. Take their money away and you might see them clean up a bit. I mean which is more important to most fighters these days... their record or their money?? That is my 2 cents worth on this topic.
president234
8/17/07 3:11:55PM
Thats actually a good point. I sure as hell wouldnt want to lose my money over some steroids.
silverbullet
8/17/07 3:19:42PM
They should strip the belt from Sherk and give it to Diaz
TOMMYAYO05
8/17/07 4:33:37PM

Posted by jahdoug

Awesome article. If he was stoned enough to not feel pain, hes got some better weed than anyone in the history of gettin high. they make it seem like smokin pot would give him PCP superman numbness. He'd get tired quicker and have less fire in him if he were blazed. Give him back the win, he shocked the world and it was the most entertaining fight in months and months

Yes months and months and maybe years and years!!
cmill21
8/17/07 4:39:38PM
I don't see how people can argue the rules? Thats like saying "I killed him but it had no benifit to me so it's not a big deal right?" It's a rule you get caught for a banned substance you shoulden't get the win.
curtisdtcom
8/17/07 5:18:05PM
Another thing that is strange is how Deigo Sanchez tested positive for agents found in marijuana after beating Riggs, and only got suspended for three months and kept his win.
brutalbones
8/17/07 5:55:56PM

Posted by curtisdtcom

Another thing that is strange is how Deigo Sanchez tested positive for agents found in marijuana after beating Riggs, and only got suspended for three months and kept his win.



excatly.
cmill21
8/17/07 6:49:18PM
Different Org.
Copenhagen
8/17/07 7:19:14PM

Posted by cmill21

I don't see how people can argue the rules? Thats like saying "I killed him but it had no benifit to me so it's not a big deal right?" It's a rule you get caught for a banned substance you shoulden't get the win.



Yes, but a main part of the article is how fighters that have been tested for roids kept their wins on record whereas Diaz stands at NC. "Roids>Pot, so why can't Diaz keep his win on record".
mikevolz
8/17/07 7:59:02PM
he tested 170 nanograms/ml if i remember correctly, now both of my parents work in substance abuse, and they've had guys who havnt smoked in a week test over 300, one of them even saw a guy test in the 500s.

its entirely possible nick diaz wasn't high during the fight, but after watching the interview he did with sherdog afterwards (in which he talked for about 2 minutes? 3 minutes? after the opening question) i think he might of been slightly influence during the interview.

PaleHorse
8/18/07 12:54:54AM
I think its totally Diaz's fault. Weed is not addicting whatsoever, its really not worth it if he knows its against the rules. Its probably just against the rules for ethical reasons, not so much enhancement. They don't want a bunch of drug usersin general fighting, putting PRIDE aside, Dana White kicked people off the Ultimate Fighter for fighting, trying to prove that these people are serious about the sport, and there is zero tolerance towards ******* around like they were.

Plus, don't quote me on this but I'm pretty sure it had nothing to do with PRIDE and UFC what happened, otherwise he wouldn't have had a suspension for fighting anywhere in Nevada. It was just a stupid decision for him to do what he did, no matter how you look at it. He isn't the smartest person in the world, you look him up on youtube, you can watch him and his brother fighting with pairs of sai, plus he grew up in Stockton, the #1 city for foreclosures, so he probably had some hardships, but he is a UFC and PRIDE contender, and a good one, and he beat who is considered the #1 lightweight contender in the world, bu tthrew it all away because he decided not to wait until after the fight to smoke it up.
KEENAN9
8/18/07 3:50:46AM
writer has a hard on for Diaz, he won, but he broke the rules, no matter what you think of the rules, he still broke them. the NC was right. And if Sherk loses his appeal then give him a NC or what ever. it should be the same no matter what rule you break.
cmill21
8/18/07 6:06:53AM

Posted by Copenhagen


Posted by cmill21

I don't see how people can argue the rules? Thats like saying "I killed him but it had no benifit to me so it's not a big deal right?" It's a rule you get caught for a banned substance you shoulden't get the win.



Yes, but a main part of the article is how fighters that have been tested for roids kept their wins on record whereas Diaz stands at NC. "Roids>Pot, so why can't Diaz keep his win on record".



I think it's a pride thing, can't really think of another pride guy testing positive that won, but thats what i've come up with.
elysianwing
8/18/07 7:31:46AM

Posted by cmill21


Posted by Copenhagen


Posted by cmill21

I don't see how people can argue the rules? Thats like saying "I killed him but it had no benifit to me so it's not a big deal right?" It's a rule you get caught for a banned substance you shoulden't get the win.



Yes, but a main part of the article is how fighters that have been tested for roids kept their wins on record whereas Diaz stands at NC. "Roids>Pot, so why can't Diaz keep his win on record".



I think it's a pride thing, can't really think of another pride guy testing positive that won, but thats what i've come up with.



The win was revoked by the Nevada State Athletic Commission, not Pride.

If the Diaz/Gomi fight had happened in Japan, the win would still be on his record.


You have to remember, the athletic commissions are in charge here, they set all the ground-rules for the states, they regulate the testing and issue the rulings, appoint the judges... etc.

Unfortunately....they don't really seem to know anything about mma, nor do they seem to care to learn.
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