BJ Penn To Fight The Winner Of GSP vs. Jon Fitch

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Posted by RMFG_187

GSP has better Standup, Wrestling, and IMO, we will see that he has better JJ. maybe not the flexibility that BJ has, but im predicting Round 3 sub. and I'll bet GSP lands more jabs.

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wrestling yes ... stand up questionable ... power chin and jj goes to bj ... u can give gsp conditioning and more diverse striking ... but yea good fight bj takes it tho

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Posted by quezocrema0032


stand up questionable

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Not really imo. GSP's striking is vastly overrated imho and if he just didn't beat Sean by stand up I would say BJ's stand up was greatly underrated.I think GSP has the reach but the best stand up fighter he's faced imo is Penn. GSP uses his kicks as BJ scarcely uses kicks but a non gassed BJ I think clearly has better stand up than GSP and that was shown in the first round of their fight. If the fight stays on the feet and BJ doesn't gas BJ will win just about every time.

BJ's gas tank seems to be taken care of but I'm not sold yet as he really hasn't been pushed like GSP is going to push him so I really don't know what to think of it. More than Likely I would go with Penn.

But sorry dude Penn's striking imo is def. better than GSP's. just my opinion though.

If Penn can keep this a stand up battle, I think he'll have the edge on GSP. In their last fight, GSP outscored BJ cus of the takedowns. I think if BJ wins the first three rounds in convincing fashio, he'll take the fight. I think it'll all depend if BJ has good enough cardio, and if GSP can take him down.

Very Tough fight for me to call.

jon will be a tougher fight for bj cuz jon is bigger a stronger but bj got the better bjj and prolly better hands. u all keep talkin gsp win via gnp and then say gsp will stuff all jons shots what makes u think the better and stronger wrestler will get taken down and not submitted but gnp? jon is a smart fighter and i think gsp lacks heart jon would never lose to serra like that. i predict jon GNP or tapout over gsp 4th rd$$$$$$$$

That jiu jitsu match is soooo old look at his leg. no tattoo. that video is ATLEAST 3 years old. with that being said Bj does have better jiu jitsu...way better jiu jitsu actually

wrestling gotto give it to st.pierre and I think he will be able to take Bj done not at will or evry attempt but he will be able to take bj down throughout the fight and impose a little damage

standup im not sure I know everyone will revert back to the first matchup but if bj penn can keep his thumb inside (if you know what i mean) who knows how the stand up goes

Im not really sure how it ends i know gsp wont submit him and it would be very difficult for him to knock bj out he might be able to overwhelm him with strikes on the ground though

Bj is one of the most talented fighters but I'm beginning to lose respect for him because he fights so dirty eye gouged both st. pierre and hughes, low blowed pulver when pulver add him hurt and held on to jens' neck for a little extra

and since everyone thinks it gonna be bj and gsp, BJ will destroy gsp. In my eyes bj won their last fight if anything gsp won from the takedowns but he never did anything with them plus bj didnt have the gas then. Gsp has improved but he was beat by bj with the standup last time and bj fixed hes gasin problem plus has outstanding takedown defense and even better bjj

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Posted by ThaAxeMurderer7

Awesome....and I thought I was gonna get Rick Rolled

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hhahaha.. rick rolled

This is the worst idea in the history of the UFC, I will not watch this just to protest, let BJ defend is own darn belt, if he moves up they should make him forfeit the lightweight belt so we can still have title fights.

Moneymatt. Fitch stonger and bigger than GSP? I think its the opposite. and as for the serra fight it doesnt matter how much heart you have when you are blasted with shot after shot. if anyone lands a clean shot in the right place they knock 99% of the people out. With that kind of logic your saying that fitch would never lose a fight by ko/tko to a powerful striker like serra because he has heart. I dont think so. Whether it was serra or not anyone can get caught. I think fitch is a great fighter but GSP is better at all aspects.
GSP by whatever the hell he wants.

My god, how many ppl do I have to point this out to, Serra is a powerful on what planet?

The man has 1 ******* KO/TKO EVER! Eeeeever.

I suppose since Shinya Aoki has 1 TKO that makes him a powerful puncher too.

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Posted by Figsak

My god, how many ppl do I have to point this out to, Serra is a powerful on what planet?

The man has 1 ******* KO/TKO EVER! Eeeeever.

I suppose since Shinya Aoki has 1 TKO that makes him a powerful puncher too.

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The pants make him powerful at everything...thus is the word of the Church of Aoki

Preaching to the choir my friend.

I'm a fellow member myself. Lets say me and you go door to door making ppl get up from the dinner table to spread the good word.

If we can't convince them, we can play good cop / set their house on fire cop.

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Posted by teddythetuna

Moneymatt. Fitch stonger and bigger than GSP? I think its the opposite. and as for the serra fight it doesnt matter how much heart you have when you are blasted with shot after shot. if anyone lands a clean shot in the right place they knock 99% of the people out. With that kind of logic your saying that fitch would never lose a fight by ko/tko to a powerful striker like serra because he has heart. I dont think so. Whether it was serra or not anyone can get caught. I think fitch is a great fighter but GSP is better at all aspects.
GSP by whatever the hell he wants.

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I am sorry to tell you that your wrong Fitch is the bigger fighter. And as far as the Matt serra fight GSP is the only guy Serra had ever knocked out he is by no means a POWERFUL STRIKER as you put it plus the guy is olny 5'6 and should be fighting at 155 but yet he knocked gsp into next week . So I would call that lack of heart or lack of chin it. If you think that the heart of a fighter has no meaning then you must not of ever heard of the term the heart of a champion. Heart gives you what your body and mind cant. Ask any fighter it is the ones with the heart and the skill that will go farther than the guy that just depended on his skills as a fighter.Karo for exp. all the skills in the world but he has lacked the heart and that is why i think he will never be a UFC champ

ALright bro. And if a 5th grader walked up to you, and hit you right on your button, and K'd you TFO, would you spend the next week talking about how he has "the heart of a warrior" and so forth?

Anybody can knock out anybody. When Serra starts dropping guys on a regular basis you can call him a "powerful striker" till then it's just a massive exaggeration.

Tuna Ted.
My buddy sumed it up perfectly but since u called me out i feel inclined to response. gsp proved lack of heart, it wasnt one clean knockout blow, serra has NEVER ko'ed sum1 in that manner, sorry! ONLY Gsp!! he had time to recover or at least should of made time in between all those non powerful non ko punches. HE DIDNT!!! And i said fitch would never lose to serra in that fashion nor lose to him ........... Fitch is taller and coming from a wrestling background i would guess is stronger also. gsp's lack of heart is why jon will win by GNP or KO. u cant say gsp hasnt never been ko'ed before. LOL

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Posted by MoneyMatt420

Tuna Ted.
My buddy sumed it up perfectly but since u called me out i feel inclined to response. gsp proved lack of heart, it wasnt one clean knockout blow, serra has NEVER ko'ed sum1 in that manner, sorry! ONLY Gsp!! he had time to recover or at least should of made time in between all those non powerful non ko punches. HE DIDNT!!! And i said fitch would never lose to serra in that fashion nor lose to him ........... Fitch is taller and coming from a wrestling background i would guess is stronger also. gsp's lack of heart is why jon will win by GNP or KO. u cant say gsp hasnt never been ko'ed before. LOL

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you cant say fitch has never been Ko'd either.

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Posted by MoneyMatt420

Tuna Ted.
My buddy sumed it up perfectly but since u called me out i feel inclined to response. gsp proved lack of heart, it wasnt one clean knockout blow, serra has NEVER ko'ed sum1 in that manner, sorry! ONLY Gsp!! he had time to recover or at least should of made time in between all those non powerful non ko punches. HE DIDNT!!! And i said fitch would never lose to serra in that fashion nor lose to him ........... Fitch is taller and coming from a wrestling background i would guess is stronger also. gsp's lack of heart is why jon will win by GNP or KO. u cant say gsp hasnt never been ko'ed before. LOL

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Serra clipped him, then spent the next 35 seconds stayin on him like a wet blanket, which was the smart thing to do. Serra never gave him a chance to recover. GSP never went out, he just never was able to get 2 full seconds without being hit to get his head back.

did i say that NO. i think gettin koed by serra is more of a laughing matter than jon getting koed by wilson gouveia early in his career. come on buddy wilson gouveia a lightheavy weight, terra serra a bantonweight or we could just say lightweight cuz serra is not getting any more wins in the welterweight he might as well dropppppp way down. OH and i think gouveia has actually koed catz before umm catz that serra couldnt hit on the chin with a ladder. F**K it i want to see gsp fight gouveia and i dont care which weight divs it is if wilson can even drop that low i doubt it. didnt think it was an issue cuz i give fitch props for fighting in a bigger and tougher weight divs. cant give gsp props for getting knocked out by a smaller weaker fighter now can we unless u that much of a nut hugger lol

wet blanket lol was gsp stuck in serra's wet paper bag? lol he got dropped then spent the next 45 seconds running away and falling down. think he should of tryed the clinch or pull guard of swing back. and yes u r right he never went out that is way he should of recovered. Karo the heat was able to recover from serras oh so powerful strikes why couldnt gsp even tho i know gsp beat the heat which who cares but thats the point my guy

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Posted by MoneyMatt420

Tuna Ted.
My buddy sumed it up perfectly but since u called me out i feel inclined to response. gsp proved lack of heart, it wasnt one clean knockout blow, serra has NEVER ko'ed sum1 in that manner, sorry! ONLY Gsp!! he had time to recover or at least should of made time in between all those non powerful non ko punches. HE DIDNT!!! And i said fitch would never lose to serra in that fashion nor lose to him ........... Fitch is taller and coming from a wrestling background i would guess is stronger also. gsp's lack of heart is why jon will win by GNP or KO. u cant say gsp hasnt never been ko'ed before. LOL

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When ever I hear about GSP's "lack of heart" I always wonder if any of these people have seen his fight with Bj. The first round that he had (with the eye poke and all) could have been enough to break a lesser fighter and say "meh it's bj not a bad loss". Then he came back and...in my opinion didn't do much in the 2nd round and then brought it out for the home stretch. That takes heart, I dono if you train but a poke to the eye can very quickly turn the tide of a fight and can change the mental state of your fighter. GSP has heart.

On to the thread. I really want to see Bj vs Gsp 2. It seems to upset alot of people but I think of it this way: if we put this fight off for a few more title d's what happens if either one of them somehow drops the ball that means we may miss a very important fight in the history of north american mma. Lets have this fight now while they are both in their prime, healthy and while both are on every p4p list out there. I don't like what it does to either title picture but to me the fight is worth it. Both fighters have also improved, gsp wrestling has only gotten better and Bj's stand up (including his defense) has really taken a step up. And to some of the people that are talking about Gsps leg kicks, go watch the first fight where Bj checks with the left, checks with the right then jumps over the next low leg kick. Leg kicks are not viable means of attack for Gsp.

I think Bj ends this fight in the 4th kinda, like the way he beat Sherk. While Penn is on his feet he will be putting alot of pressure on GSP because he's always jabbing and your not going to knock him out. GSP might be able to get him down again but like the first fight I think Penn can get it back to the feet and beat GSP by sheer pressure. Sorry for the long post I'm drunk.

Pay no attn to matt. He sent me some hate mail over my last post. Which didn't even contradict his point. I was actually agreeing with what he said about how GSPdidn't get dropped.

You should of seen that PM, it was all covered in glitter and XOXO's.

I'm okay with BJ making history as the only man to hold two belts in different weight classes at the same time. Because a focused BJ Penn can beat anyone.

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Posted by EON

I'm okay with BJ making history as the only man to hold two belts in different weight classes at the same time. Because a focused BJ Penn can beat anyone.

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*cough* Dan Henderson *cough*

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Posted by jiujitsufreak74

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Posted by EON

I'm okay with BJ making history as the only man to hold two belts in different weight classes at the same time. Because a focused BJ Penn can beat anyone.

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*cough* Dan Henderson *cough*

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My bad I meant UFC

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Posted by EON

I'm okay with BJ making history as the only man to hold two belts in different weight classes at the same time. Because a focused BJ Penn can beat anyone.

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Agreed. And IMO BJ won the GSP fight. GSP got dished out too many points for the takedowns. Who knows, if the judges had scored that differently, BJ might be the proud owner of 2 belts right now.

I think gsp got alot of love for takedowns he did nothing with. Is a takedown really noteworthy if you do nothing with it and let your opponent get back up? What about when you take someone down then the fighter on the bottom starts working a sub on you. I dono I've seen that fight so many times and I still don't know who I would give round 2.

I scored that fight 29-28 for Penn.