Pacquiao vs. Hatton

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The_Metal_Maniac
5/3/09 12:32:55AM
Good God, just got done watching the PPV and wow Pac man is the most ferocious, fast, lethal boxer I've seen in a while. Him and Floyd will be one of the best fights ever. The knock out tonight was picture perfect.
Playground_Samurai
5/3/09 3:46:00AM
Brutal KO. Pacquiao is an absolute beast. He'll give Mayweather all sorts of trouble. At this point, i'd actually give the edge to Manny.
1daveufc
5/3/09 4:37:31AM
What can a say my heart wanted ricky to win but my head was telling me manny. What happened a was right manny is an animal so fast so strong for a little lad bring on floyd.Time to hang em up rick
Aaronno9
5/3/09 5:05:50AM
Hatton was just outclassed last night. Just like he was against Floyd. But I think its far to early to say Ricky should hang em up. He lost to Floyd when he was number 1 p4p. He lost to Manny when he was number 1 p4p. So hes basically never been beaten by a fighter who wasnt the best in the world at the time. A saving grace for the Hitman might be that I cant see Manny hanging round in a single weight class for a sustained period, so Ricky probably wont have to fight him again any time soon, should he put together another good run. Which he will.

Hatton probably needs to move onto a new trainer though. All the promises from Floyd sr about a new and improved "slicker" Hatton is garbage, he doesnt look any differant.

I kinda feel bad, for the last two weeks ive been really Harsh towards Hatton, but I knew Manny was on another level and would finish him inside 10 rounds. I was more annoyed at how pretty much everybody I know was saying Hatton was going to get inside and destroy Manny, showing a total lack of knowledge when it comes to boxing, or just being plainly blinded by the fact Ricky is English.

Anyways, I really hope Ricky comes back and gets himself back on the W's. Hes still a top drawer fighter and very exciting to watch.

Now I just cant wait to see Floyd fighting Marquez and Manny.
moob
5/3/09 8:17:04AM

Posted by Aaronno9

Hatton was just outclassed last night. Just like he was against Floyd. But I think its far to early to say Ricky should hang em up. He lost to Floyd when he was number 1 p4p. He lost to Manny when he was number 1 p4p. So hes basically never been beaten by a fighter who wasnt the best in the world at the time. A saving grace for the Hitman might be that I cant see Manny hanging round in a single weight class for a sustained period, so Ricky probably wont have to fight him again any time soon, should he put together another good run. Which he will.

Hatton probably needs to move onto a new trainer though. All the promises from Floyd sr about a new and improved "slicker" Hatton is garbage, he doesnt look any differant.

I kinda feel bad, for the last two weeks ive been really Harsh towards Hatton, but I knew Manny was on another level and would finish him inside 10 rounds. I was more annoyed at how pretty much everybody I know was saying Hatton was going to get inside and destroy Manny, showing a total lack of knowledge when it comes to boxing, or just being plainly blinded by the fact Ricky is English.

Anyways, I really hope Ricky comes back and gets himself back on the W's. Hes still a top drawer fighter and very exciting to watch.

Now I just cant wait to see Floyd fighting Marquez and Manny.



Some good points there mate.

Hatton fought the wrong fight against Manny - he came forward too quickly and tried to slug with him - huuuuuuge mistake.
NatedawgThaM
5/3/09 1:16:04PM

Posted by Aaronno9

Hatton was just outclassed last night. Just like he was against Floyd. But I think its far to early to say Ricky should hang em up. He lost to Floyd when he was number 1 p4p. He lost to Manny when he was number 1 p4p. So hes basically never been beaten by a fighter who wasnt the best in the world at the time. A saving grace for the Hitman might be that I cant see Manny hanging round in a single weight class for a sustained period, so Ricky probably wont have to fight him again any time soon, should he put together another good run. Which he will.

Hatton probably needs to move onto a new trainer though. All the promises from Floyd sr about a new and improved "slicker" Hatton is garbage, he doesnt look any differant.

I kinda feel bad, for the last two weeks ive been really Harsh towards Hatton, but I knew Manny was on another level and would finish him inside 10 rounds. I was more annoyed at how pretty much everybody I know was saying Hatton was going to get inside and destroy Manny, showing a total lack of knowledge when it comes to boxing, or just being plainly blinded by the fact Ricky is English.

Anyways, I really hope Ricky comes back and gets himself back on the W's. Hes still a top drawer fighter and very exciting to watch.

Now I just cant wait to see Floyd fighting Marquez and Manny.



IMO I think hatton was just too dumb. I don't think he even tried to listen to Floyd at all. It was the same old Hatton who just throws himself at people and tries to hug them and smother them. It only works against fast guys who can't punch like Pauly, or strong guys with no speed like Urango who can't catch him. But when he actually fights somebody who's slick with good speed and great power he gets caught every time. He needs to use head movement and a jab to help him not get caught coming in. But I think he's just too use to his style.

Real impressive though. Pacman's just wow. He's a beast. I agree that Pacman actually I think has the edge against Floyd. He's just as fast with great power, he could definitely take Floyd out!
moob
5/3/09 1:46:26PM

Posted by NatedawgThaM


IMO I think hatton was just too dumb. I don't think he even tried to listen to Floyd at all. It was the same old Hatton who just throws himself at people and tries to hug them and smother them. It only works against fast guys who can't punch like Pauly, or strong guys with no speed like Urango who can't catch him. But when he actually fights somebody who's slick with good speed and great power he gets caught every time. He needs to use head movement and a jab to help him not get caught coming in. But I think he's just too use to his style.



Saying that, he's only been defeated twice in 47 fights - not too bad for someone so 'dumb'.
LakieMan
5/3/09 1:52:33PM
Crazy KO no doubt!
The_Metal_Maniac
5/3/09 3:26:21PM
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HulkRage
5/3/09 3:29:41PM
That was great, Hatton got KTFO. I can't wai to see Pacquiao vs. Mayweather jr. that will be one to watch.
Jackelope
5/3/09 3:44:08PM
Pacquiao better tune up his defense mid-combinations, otherwise if that fight with Mayweather does happen he's going to get absolutely killed. Luckily for Pacquiao he hits hard enough to exert his will. Still, make that fight go past 5 rounds and Mayweather starts to take it handily IMO
Aaronno9
5/3/09 4:18:23PM
Wow, I just watched what happened after the fight, I didnt realise Hatton was so hurt! I litterally turned to T.V off and went to bed in a huff as soon as they called it (Bearing in mind id stayed up until 5 a.m. and paid for ppv, only to see the fight finish in 5 minutes ). Looked really bad. Not something I feel proud to joke about, but damn, Hatton looked like a little goblin or some other hidously ugly little creature when he was out.....
Aaronno9
5/3/09 4:20:38PM
I just heard Hattons going to have showdown talks with Floyd which could see the end of their partnership. Floyd turned up about half an hour before the fight started and apparantly just strolled into the locker room like nothing happened. Sounds like Hatton was p****d to say the least.

Poor form from Floyd, almost as bad as Bisping just not showing for Deans fight on TUF.
Pookie
5/3/09 4:33:33PM
Ive been saying it for awhile, but Pacquiao's lateral movement and handspeed is going to be too much for floyd. Mayweather relies on the fact that hes much faster than everyone he faces, and that allows him to use the philly shell defense in an almost impenatrable manner, but manny is just as fast as him if not faster. Hes going to land shots that normally Mayweather would be able to parry. And hes going to outwork him.

That is if Mayweather makes it past Marquez... who is a beast in himself and a great bet if he gets to +175
Jackelope
5/3/09 4:37:24PM

Posted by Pookie

Ive been saying it for awhile, but Pacquiao's lateral movement and handspeed is going to be too much for floyd. Mayweather relies on the fact that hes much faster than everyone he faces, and that allows him to use the philly shell defense in an almost impenatrable manner, but manny is just as fast as him if not faster. Hes going to land shots that normally Mayweather would be able to parry. And hes going to outwork him.

That is if Mayweather makes it past Marquez... who is a beast in himself and a great bet if he gets to +175



I'll av bet you when that Mayweather Vs. Pacquiao fight goes down, if it does. I don't count Manny out at all, but I think once Pacquiao's punching power fades in the latter rounds then Mayweather will turn it up and out point him for the UD.

This is all subject to a big IF the fight happens, of course. I still think Mayweather is faster than Pacman
Pookie
5/3/09 4:42:50PM

Posted by Jackelope


Posted by Pookie

Ive been saying it for awhile, but Pacquiao's lateral movement and handspeed is going to be too much for floyd. Mayweather relies on the fact that hes much faster than everyone he faces, and that allows him to use the philly shell defense in an almost impenatrable manner, but manny is just as fast as him if not faster. Hes going to land shots that normally Mayweather would be able to parry. And hes going to outwork him.

That is if Mayweather makes it past Marquez... who is a beast in himself and a great bet if he gets to +175



I'll av bet you when that Mayweather Vs. Pacquiao fight goes down, if it does. I don't count Manny out at all, but I think once Pacquiao's punching power fades in the latter rounds then Mayweather will turn it up and out point him for the UD.

This is all subject to a big IF the fight happens, of course. I still think Mayweather is faster than Pacman



Ill take that. Mayweather even may be a bit faster, but i think its the descrepancy in hand and reflex speed that allows mayweather to skate by unscaythed agaisnt slower guys. Match his speed and it creates openings in his defense.
Jackelope
5/3/09 4:45:41PM

Posted by Pookie


Posted by Jackelope


Posted by Pookie

Ive been saying it for awhile, but Pacquiao's lateral movement and handspeed is going to be too much for floyd. Mayweather relies on the fact that hes much faster than everyone he faces, and that allows him to use the philly shell defense in an almost impenatrable manner, but manny is just as fast as him if not faster. Hes going to land shots that normally Mayweather would be able to parry. And hes going to outwork him.

That is if Mayweather makes it past Marquez... who is a beast in himself and a great bet if he gets to +175



I'll av bet you when that Mayweather Vs. Pacquiao fight goes down, if it does. I don't count Manny out at all, but I think once Pacquiao's punching power fades in the latter rounds then Mayweather will turn it up and out point him for the UD.

This is all subject to a big IF the fight happens, of course. I still think Mayweather is faster than Pacman



Ill take that. Mayweather even may be a bit faster, but i think its the descrepancy in hand and reflex speed that allows mayweather to skate by unscaythed agaisnt slower guys. Match his speed and it creates openings in his defense.

This will be my very first AV bet, lol. I'm not too big on doing them, but I think this is the most interesting possible matchup in boxing today, and adding some stakes makes it all the better
The_Metal_Maniac
5/3/09 6:17:02PM
Manny vs.Floyd is inevitable. Floyd will make it past Marquez. Marquez is a great fighter, but he's moving up in weight and he's just not on the same playing field as Floyd.
Pookie
5/3/09 6:43:09PM

Posted by Jackelope


Posted by Pookie


Posted by Jackelope


Posted by Pookie

Ive been saying it for awhile, but Pacquiao's lateral movement and handspeed is going to be too much for floyd. Mayweather relies on the fact that hes much faster than everyone he faces, and that allows him to use the philly shell defense in an almost impenatrable manner, but manny is just as fast as him if not faster. Hes going to land shots that normally Mayweather would be able to parry. And hes going to outwork him.

That is if Mayweather makes it past Marquez... who is a beast in himself and a great bet if he gets to +175



I'll av bet you when that Mayweather Vs. Pacquiao fight goes down, if it does. I don't count Manny out at all, but I think once Pacquiao's punching power fades in the latter rounds then Mayweather will turn it up and out point him for the UD.

This is all subject to a big IF the fight happens, of course. I still think Mayweather is faster than Pacman



Ill take that. Mayweather even may be a bit faster, but i think its the descrepancy in hand and reflex speed that allows mayweather to skate by unscaythed agaisnt slower guys. Match his speed and it creates openings in his defense.

This will be my very first AV bet, lol. I'm not too big on doing them, but I think this is the most interesting possible matchup in boxing today, and adding some stakes makes it all the better



Lets up the stakes Jack

Drop the avatar bet and lets play for pink slips.

Pac-man wins American Top Team gets you for a season, and if Floyd wins you guys get me for a season
ncordless
5/3/09 8:08:59PM

Posted by Pookie


Posted by Jackelope


Posted by Pookie


Posted by Jackelope


Posted by Pookie

Ive been saying it for awhile, but Pacquiao's lateral movement and handspeed is going to be too much for floyd. Mayweather relies on the fact that hes much faster than everyone he faces, and that allows him to use the philly shell defense in an almost impenatrable manner, but manny is just as fast as him if not faster. Hes going to land shots that normally Mayweather would be able to parry. And hes going to outwork him.

That is if Mayweather makes it past Marquez... who is a beast in himself and a great bet if he gets to +175



I'll av bet you when that Mayweather Vs. Pacquiao fight goes down, if it does. I don't count Manny out at all, but I think once Pacquiao's punching power fades in the latter rounds then Mayweather will turn it up and out point him for the UD.

This is all subject to a big IF the fight happens, of course. I still think Mayweather is faster than Pacman



Ill take that. Mayweather even may be a bit faster, but i think its the descrepancy in hand and reflex speed that allows mayweather to skate by unscaythed agaisnt slower guys. Match his speed and it creates openings in his defense.

This will be my very first AV bet, lol. I'm not too big on doing them, but I think this is the most interesting possible matchup in boxing today, and adding some stakes makes it all the better



Lets up the stakes Jack

Drop the avatar bet and lets play for pink slips.

Pac-man wins American Top Team gets you for a season, and if Floyd wins you guys get me for a season




That is some serious bizness!
NatedawgThaM
5/3/09 8:28:19PM

Posted by moob


Posted by NatedawgThaM


IMO I think hatton was just too dumb. I don't think he even tried to listen to Floyd at all. It was the same old Hatton who just throws himself at people and tries to hug them and smother them. It only works against fast guys who can't punch like Pauly, or strong guys with no speed like Urango who can't catch him. But when he actually fights somebody who's slick with good speed and great power he gets caught every time. He needs to use head movement and a jab to help him not get caught coming in. But I think he's just too use to his style.



Saying that, he's only been defeated twice in 47 fights - not too bad for someone so 'dumb'.



Well it is dumb when you say your going to do something in a fight and don't do di and funny when it's the reason you lost and got KTFO.

Moob I remember you said you english so I should have known youd be for your boys Hatton & Joe haha. Gotta love Nationalism! Why this season of tuf is pretty sweet too!!! USA!!!
Jackelope
5/3/09 11:12:55PM

Posted by Pookie


Lets up the stakes Jack

Drop the avatar bet and lets play for pink slips.

Pac-man wins American Top Team gets you for a season, and if Floyd wins you guys get me for a season



That's a pretty damn interesting bet on a fight! I'm loyal to the Nutthuggers suck, but I admit I'm intrigued. I'll have to run it by the camp and see what they think. Also, you sure your camp is down?
kaskd
5/4/09 1:13:42AM
hahaha man i'm so torn now! I'm normally always on Pookie's side but this one I really don't know. Mayweather's counter punching style is going to be a good match against Pacquiao. True Pacquiao has the speed, but Mayweather's movements are so subtle it's ridiculous. Mayweather's head is always an inch away and rarely gets clocked. I earnestly want Mayweather to win this fight. I hate cocky fighters normally, but it's fun having someone so mythical.

I'm not going to make any predictions now. We'll see how Mayweather fares in his next fight and then I'll make a pick.
cmill21
5/4/09 1:15:54AM

Posted by Jackelope


Posted by Pookie


Lets up the stakes Jack

Drop the avatar bet and lets play for pink slips.

Pac-man wins American Top Team gets you for a season, and if Floyd wins you guys get me for a season



That's a pretty damn interesting bet on a fight! I'm loyal to the Nutthuggers suck, but I admit I'm intrigued. I'll have to run it by the camp and see what they think. Also, you sure your camp is down?



I'm down...Floyd will win so we'll get pookie for a season ahaha. It's the perfect fight, agressive vs passive, the counter fighter against a guy who likes to push the action. That being said, Floyd's bigger faster, and all in all, a better boxer, Manny has the edge in power, but you have to hit Floyd, which is damn near impossible.
Amigop
5/4/09 1:55:04AM
id take pac man over floyd. me and the rest of the mexican community refuse to beilve mayweather won the decsion over DLH. o yea and floyd was on the wwe. nuff said
Pookie
5/4/09 2:06:52AM

Posted by Jackelope


Posted by Pookie


Lets up the stakes Jack

Drop the avatar bet and lets play for pink slips.

Pac-man wins American Top Team gets you for a season, and if Floyd wins you guys get me for a season



That's a pretty damn interesting bet on a fight! I'm loyal to the Nutthuggers suck, but I admit I'm intrigued. I'll have to run it by the camp and see what they think. Also, you sure your camp is down?



Pac-man wont lose this fight so im not worried, but if the **** hits the fan ATT is more than a strong enough camp without me. In fact im kind of holding down our average right now .

But if youre adamant that you guys are inseperable id be willing to take in your whole team when Floyd falters.
MMAcca
5/4/09 2:44:41AM
moob
5/4/09 5:50:03AM

Posted by NatedawgThaM


Posted by moob


Posted by NatedawgThaM


IMO I think hatton was just too dumb. I don't think he even tried to listen to Floyd at all. It was the same old Hatton who just throws himself at people and tries to hug them and smother them. It only works against fast guys who can't punch like Pauly, or strong guys with no speed like Urango who can't catch him. But when he actually fights somebody who's slick with good speed and great power he gets caught every time. He needs to use head movement and a jab to help him not get caught coming in. But I think he's just too use to his style.



Saying that, he's only been defeated twice in 47 fights - not too bad for someone so 'dumb'.



Well it is dumb when you say your going to do something in a fight and don't do di and funny when it's the reason you lost and got KTFO.

Moob I remember you said you english so I should have known youd be for your boys Hatton & Joe haha. Gotta love Nationalism! Why this season of tuf is pretty sweet too!!! USA!!!



Yeah, cause that doesn't happen in just about every other combative sport. How many fighters say they are gonna 'take the fight to him and KO him' in the UFC, only to do the exact opposite?

Another thing, I'm not English, I'm Scottish.
MMA
5/4/09 8:53:43AM
Mayweather vs. Pacquiao anyone?
hippysmacker
5/4/09 4:52:35PM

Posted by Pookie


Posted by Jackelope


Posted by Pookie


Posted by Jackelope


Posted by Pookie

Ive been saying it for awhile, but Pacquiao's lateral movement and handspeed is going to be too much for floyd. Mayweather relies on the fact that hes much faster than everyone he faces, and that allows him to use the philly shell defense in an almost impenatrable manner, but manny is just as fast as him if not faster. Hes going to land shots that normally Mayweather would be able to parry. And hes going to outwork him.

That is if Mayweather makes it past Marquez... who is a beast in himself and a great bet if he gets to +175



I'll av bet you when that Mayweather Vs. Pacquiao fight goes down, if it does. I don't count Manny out at all, but I think once Pacquiao's punching power fades in the latter rounds then Mayweather will turn it up and out point him for the UD.

This is all subject to a big IF the fight happens, of course. I still think Mayweather is faster than Pacman



Ill take that. Mayweather even may be a bit faster, but i think its the descrepancy in hand and reflex speed that allows mayweather to skate by unscaythed agaisnt slower guys. Match his speed and it creates openings in his defense.

This will be my very first AV bet, lol. I'm not too big on doing them, but I think this is the most interesting possible matchup in boxing today, and adding some stakes makes it all the better



Lets up the stakes Jack

Drop the avatar bet and lets play for pink slips.

Pac-man wins American Top Team gets you for a season, and if Floyd wins you guys get me for a season




Sorry. No. Our camp is not open to new recruits. Thanks for the thought thought. You will just have to make do with an Av bet.
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