Posted by juanez13
I'd say Royce Gracie is the most OVERRATED, He was subbing people when they didnt know what BJJ was. If he were to grapple against some of today's best grapplers, I dont think he'd hold up to well. Alot of times i hear people say that Royce would have subbed today's best or is equally as good, and i just think that far from what would happen.
agreed.....look at his recent fights, hughes, sakaraba (even tho he won)....the bjj game has passed him in mma (or bascially real life practices)......
Penn - ummm why is he even being discussed as a overated grappler? hes got submission wins, dominated on the ground with the exception of the gsp fight, but still showed why he is soo highly considerd, and he uses his jj to put opponents in awkaward positions to were he wins the fight...i think hes a perfect example of a crossover over star from bjj to mma
serra - i dont think hes overated as a grappler, i just think he enters fights that he shouldnt be in..plus he was never really that big of a grappling star to begin with, just the renzo gracie black belt got him recognition.....he should be fighting at 155 still...but as far as crossing over, he holds his own on the ground, but look hes fought..guys that are more highly touted than him in the grappling world....gsp is a renzo brown belt, and serra is a black, there wasnt much difference there
renzo gracie - i think the only reason he was mentioned is cuz the ladder part of his career and recent fights.... during the nineties he was very dominate on the ground and overall in mma....there is a reason he is considered the greatest gracie mma fighter
crane - is a perfect example of not being able to cross over...overated for sure, cuz if your bjj doesnt cross over then what actual use will it have in the real world which is the center of most martial arts (real world practicality)
koscheck - i dont think hes overated at all....last couple fights hes kept standing, but before that, he was a dominate wrestler and used it perfectly (yet boring) in fights...the only person to outwrestle him was gsp...who apparently now is olympic caliber in that department...plus rumor has it is that koscheck didnt even train the ground for that fight, just trained stand up
i think better examples would be (among others):
any judoka (except karo)