Okay, seriously... 700 people think Okami will beat Franklin?

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AchillesHeel
6/15/07 2:37:42PM
This is all just a warm-up for the rematch with Anderson Silva. You know that, right? (Yes, Marquardt is screwed too, but I'll save that thread for later.)

See, I have a special camera that takes photos from the future...



You'll notice that Yushin looks unhappy. Very, very unhappy. That's because Rich is beating him senseless. It's understandable. I know I would be unhappy if Rich were beating me senseless.

thepunisher
6/15/07 2:40:04PM
I am one of those 700 that picked Okami

I think Rich wasn't as good as everyone thought
pv3Hpv3p
6/15/07 2:41:48PM
I just think that Okami is really underrated... I know he's getting the shot at Rick (and probably a #1 contender spot), but after all he is the fill in, what I mean is he wasn't the first choice...

I picked him because it is the year of the upset, and I wanted to get a bunch of cash down on something with decent odds for the last event... Anyways, I don't think that Yushin will win persay, but I didn't think Diaz, Hendo, Rampage, Gonzaga, Couture, Serra, or Sokodjou would be getting W's in their fights either... So I guess I'll take my chances
szucconi
6/15/07 2:43:29PM
four out of the last four main events have been upsets. Okami is a tricky match up for Franklin. That might be enough for me to bet on the underdog. I have wagered all my money on Okami. I like Okami and would be happy if he got a rematch with Silva.
AchillesHeel
6/15/07 2:45:56PM

Posted by thepunisher

I think Rich wasn't as good as everyone thought


Silly rabbit.



Posted by pv3Hpv3p

I just think that Okami is really underrated...


He is, I agree. I went against my gut and picked Swick and felt like a moron.


Posted by pv3Hpv3p

I picked him because it is the year of the upset[...] I don't think that Yushin will win persay[...] I'll take my chances


I actually wondered if this might be true for a lot of folks.
shackle
6/15/07 2:50:46PM
I think we will see Franklin win. People say Okami style is bad for Franklin... I don't get that.. I think it's perfect cause I doubt Okami can overpower Franklin. Franklin is a heck of alot bigger/stronger then the other guys Okami fought, I've also notice Okami seems to get gas pretty quickly also.

I think Franklin will take it in the later rounds due to conditioning, and I just feel Okami's style isn't at a big advantage vs Franklin. We will all find out soon though! :)

No disrespect to Okami though he is a great fighter, and I can't say I would be too shocked if he won. I am pulling for Franklin though.
szucconi
6/15/07 2:56:09PM

Posted by shackle

I think we will see Franklin win. People say Okami style is bad for Franklin... I don't get that.. I think it's perfect cause I doubt Okami can overpower Franklin. Franklin is a heck of alot bigger/stronger then the other guys Okami fought, I've also notice Okami seems to get gas pretty quickly also.

I think Franklin will take it in the later rounds due to conditioning, and I just feel Okami's style isn't at a advantage very Franklin. We will all find out soon! :)

No disrespect to Okami though he is a great fighter, and I can't say I would be too shocked if he won. I am pulling for Franklin though.



I think Rich's biggest advantage is his strength and Okami might be able to take that away. Okami is strong and Rich will not be ready to fighting a strong opponent like him. The argument could be made on the other side as well. I think this fight is more even then the odds. That’s why I like Okami
DangerousDjohn
6/15/07 3:09:55PM
I picked Okami to win, because I think Franklin will take him too lightly like he did Anderson. I wan't Rich to win, but I have my money on Okami.
tepid55
6/15/07 3:27:42PM
Franklin won't be able to handle Okami's strength on the inside.
papercut
6/15/07 4:05:37PM

Posted by tepid55

Franklin won't be able to handle Okami's strength on the inside.



Rich is a BIG middleweight and can easily overpower Okami with his size and strength so if this fight gets to the ground either Rick will work his way back to his feet and KO Okami or find a dominant position and pound Okami until the ref steps in
drew
6/15/07 4:26:04PM
It's a hard pick but I think it boils down to Okami's ability to take Franklin down. He can pound out a win if he puts Franklin on his back. He's also pretty evasive on his feet and doesn't engage much.. I just think Franklin's aggressive striking/takedown defense will get him a KO/TKO. Okami was rocked by Swick. Franklin should be able to finish him

One thing to note that Kenny Florian pointed out on MMAweekly radio is that all of Franklin's losses have come from left handed fighters, and Okami is one. Who knows what that's worth though

pv3Hpv3p
6/15/07 4:26:49PM

Posted by papercut


Posted by tepid55

Franklin won't be able to handle Okami's strength on the inside.



Rich is a BIG middleweight and can easily overpower Okami with his size and strength so if this fight gets to the ground either Rick will work his way back to his feet and KO Okami or find a dominant position and pound Okami until the ref steps in



I think Okami is very deceptively strong... He has awesome core strength where a lot of his TD's come from, and seems to really helps his control when in top position... While Rich may look like the bigger dude, that doesn't always mean that he's the stronger... I guess we'll see tomorrow.
DoTheMMAth
6/15/07 4:46:31PM
I'm one of the 700... this has been the year of the upset, I imaginate that Okami is almost as physically strong as Franklin, and Franklin's aggression plays into Okami's role as a counterpuncher / non-offensive fighter. I would not be suprised AT ALL if Franklin mopped the floor with him, but my gut told me to pick Okami, and I obeyed.
xthe_scottx
6/15/07 4:59:58PM
The thing I don't get is the reason why so many people are picking Okami. Most say "It's the year of upsets" or something along these lines and to me this makes no sense. I just don't see why your reason for picking the guy who you would normally say would lose is because others have overcome the odds. Don't get me wrong, Okami could potentially win because he is a skilled fighter and Franklin is may be a tiny bit overrated but to pick him because you think he would normally lose is just plain idiotic IMO.
Trapt1nw0nder
6/15/07 5:01:18PM

Posted by papercut


Posted by tepid55

Franklin won't be able to handle Okami's strength on the inside.



Rich is a BIG middleweight and can easily overpower Okami with his size and strength so if this fight gets to the ground either Rick will work his way back to his feet and KO Okami or find a dominant position and pound Okami until the ref steps in



Being "BIG" has nothing to do with being strong and being able to hold his own with Okami....Anderson Silva wasnt bigger than Franklin,and he was tossing him around like a ragdoll........Karo Parisyan for example...Joe Rogan always comments on how Physically strong Karo is compared to other fighters his size...Same with Couture,and Sylvia.........Being big and strong is one this,but being big,strong,and an experienced grappler is an other...and that is Okami.......If Okami get ahold of Rich,you will see the difference.

I still have Franklin winning in the late rounds via TKO GnP or Decision due to Okami's conditioning....i still think Okami will take the 1st round and Franklin taking over in a good fight.

really see it like a 60/40 in favor of Franklin

Gladiator
6/15/07 5:16:25PM

Posted by DangerousDjohn

I picked Okami to win, because I think Franklin will take him too lightly like he did Anderson. I wan't Rich to win, but I have my money on Okami.



i think if anything rich overtrained for the anderson silva fight, rich did not take him lightly... anderson silva was just the better fighter plain and simple. i only wish i had more money to wager on franklin in this fight. i picked okami to beat swick but i didnt think swick would ever have okami in trouble on the feet and he did (cant remember which rnd 1st i think). rich will overwhelm okami on the feet, people say that without his strenght advantage rich will crumble but i think those people forget that most of his career (and the good majority of his wins) he was at 205 and had no strenght advantage. rich has excellent striking and his biggest threat is a better striker... not a stronger grappler.
DJDark41
6/15/07 5:18:51PM
Its not unreasonable to pick Okami. I think it's gonna be a very close contest and I'm kicking myself for putting so much on Franklin because I'm not 100% sure he's gonna win, but I'm backing him all the way.
zephead
6/15/07 5:27:05PM
I picked Franklin but Okami's strength scares me. I think this is the strongest person Rich has faced
Mastodon2
6/15/07 6:46:11PM
Okami is compact, but he is so strong, he is like a bomb man. He looks quite small, but size isnt everything, often short limbs are very strong, just look at Manny Gamburyan!

I think Franklin has more ring savvy, but Okami has sheer tenacity and power, I dont want to pick this one, it could go either way. My gut feeling has it slightly in Okami's favour, I just get a good feeling about him.
cmill21
6/15/07 8:02:57PM
I like Rich, I just don't think he's going to be able to handle Okami. If it goes to the ground it's over. If Rich can sprawl and get on top from that, it's over. I picked Okami because he looks like a little asian guy, but he's an ox.
Damien6663
6/15/07 8:08:44PM
Okami is a very good fighter, my pick for this one is ace, because swick had okami shakey on their feet a few times, and rich hits harder then swick and is a better all around striker.

Okami is a stud though, i can see him winning this fights, any1 who says he can not is being biased. If okami is a huge underdog in the vegas odds, he would be a good bet.
Northrend
6/16/07 12:37:33AM
Calling it now Okami by decision.


Okami is the man! Hop along the bandwagon before its too late!

War Okami :thumbsup

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ButterBalls
6/16/07 12:59:10AM
I am picking Okami for this fight...I've bet against him twice now and lost both times, I won't make the mistake a third time.
AchillesHeel
6/16/07 5:57:02PM
Well, that was closer than I thought it would be.
DoTheMMAth
6/16/07 6:05:25PM
Someone give Okami some Viagra FFS... he gift-wrapped those first 2 rounds for Franklin, seriously. What a disappointment! There goes my last season 1 wager lol!
loller90278
6/16/07 6:06:58PM
props to franklin for outmuscling out of the kimura.
thelastking
6/16/07 6:44:42PM
Yeah Okami really did absolutely nothing in the first two rounds but he came really close to finishing in the third.
Ultimate_fighter
6/17/07 2:50:27PM
WHAT WERE U GUYS THINKING!! OKAMI DIDN'T STAND A CHANCE!!
Ultimate_fighter
6/17/07 2:52:55PM

Posted by butterballs

I am picking Okami for this fight...I've bet against him twice now and lost both times, I won't make the mistake a third time.


well ya, did!
Northrend
6/17/07 2:54:55PM

Posted by Ultimate_fighter

WHAT WERE U GUYS THINKING!! OKAMI DIDN'T STAND A CHANCE!!




Actually he lost that fight but it was really close and with different rules could have gone either way. That Kimura was very tight and Franklin got mounted. Franklin did deserve to win though by the way UFC judges it...but too say he didn't stand a chance were cleary he did is just crazy.

BTW Okami will be back!
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