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kopower
10/13/12 3:56:25PM

Posted by Gogoplatapus



Never heard this song before but it's pretty good. 8.5/10

As for my song.. It's a guilty pleasure but I love me some Young Jeezy.

Young Jeezy - Trap Star



Jeezy also a guilty pleasure to me. His old stuff anyway. I bumped this track back in the day for sure. 6.5/10



Black Angels - Black Grease

Can't live without this band. Top of my 'to see' list.


I hear ya gogo. I like the free Slaughterhouse mixtape better than the album.

Wu-Tang - Severe Punishment

I like the song Gogo. 7/10
BuffaloDave
10/13/12 5:21:26PM

Posted by kopower

Wu-Tang - Severe Punishment

I like the song Gogo. 7/10



There's always that soft spot in my heart for a little Wu 7.5/10

I'll keep the hip-hop going

Biggie - 10 Crack Commandments
jakewalters
10/13/12 5:31:01PM

Posted by BuffaloDave

There's always that soft spot in my heart for a little Wu 7.5/10

I'll keep the hip-hop going

Biggie - 10 Crack Commandments



10/10.

Biggie - Hypnotize
george112
10/13/12 6:17:25PM
7/10 I like biggie

Switching genres

Boneyards- Parkway Drive
warglory
10/13/12 8:20:38PM

Posted by george112

7/10 I like biggie

Switching genres

Boneyards- Parkway Drive



3/10

3rd rate, generic deathcore. So many stereotypes in this song. Sorry! lol



Black River - Lucky in Hell
george112
10/13/12 8:31:29PM
That's heavy metal man . Not deathcore


To each his own
warglory
10/13/12 8:35:36PM

Posted by george112

That's heavy metal man . Not deathcore


To each his own



Well deathcore is metal. death metal+metalcore=deathcore

But more power to you if you dig it man. We all got our tastes!
george112
10/13/12 8:39:37PM
Well yeah if you look at heavy metal as an umbrella term. I do not. As most people dont. They each have their own characteristics that are not hard to pick out.

warglory
10/14/12 1:21:33AM

Posted by george112

Well yeah if you look at heavy metal as an umbrella term. I do not. As most people dont. They each have their own characteristics that are not hard to pick out.




Well death metal falls under the metal genre, as does metalcore, so when you combine the two, it's still considered heavy metal, and Parkway Drive is most definitely metal, but falls under the deathcore genre. It you don't think Parkway Drive is deathcore, I'd like to hear what you consider to actually be part of that genre.
george112
10/14/12 6:35:43AM

Posted by warglory


Posted by george112

Well yeah if you look at heavy metal as an umbrella term. I do not. As most people dont. They each have their own characteristics that are not hard to pick out.




Well death metal falls under the metal genre, as does metalcore, so when you combine the two, it's still considered heavy metal, and Parkway Drive is most definitely metal, but falls under the deathcore genre. It you don't think Parkway Drive is deathcore, I'd like to hear what you consider to actually be part of that genre.

As much as I would like to list hundreds of bands I refuse to derail this awesome thread. If people want they can do a very simple google/youtube search and find out for themselves that they are different.

I'm giving your song a 6.5/10

Earth Angel- The Temptations
warglory
10/14/12 12:51:02PM

Posted by george112


Posted by warglory


Posted by george112

Well yeah if you look at heavy metal as an umbrella term. I do not. As most people dont. They each have their own characteristics that are not hard to pick out.




Well death metal falls under the metal genre, as does metalcore, so when you combine the two, it's still considered heavy metal, and Parkway Drive is most definitely metal, but falls under the deathcore genre. It you don't think Parkway Drive is deathcore, I'd like to hear what you consider to actually be part of that genre.

As much as I would like to list hundreds of bands I refuse to derail this awesome thread. If people want they can do a very simple google/youtube search and find out for themselves that they are different.

I'm giving your song a 6.5/10

Earth Angel- The Temptations



Hey whatever works man, I'd like to see some of the bands you are referring to though, pm if you want. Not a big deal, I just can't wrap my mind around the argument that deathcore isn't metal.
george112
10/14/12 1:36:13PM
Lol I never said deathcore wasn't metal. I said it wasnt heavy metal. Those are separate genres. Metal i guess could be the umbrella term your referring to. But thats not what you said in original post


Rock- umbrella term for...
Alternative
New age
Contemporary
Etc..

Metal-umbrella term for...
Heavy metal
Death metal
Etc..

Get what I'm trying to say?
warglory
10/14/12 6:18:35PM

Posted by george112

Lol I never said deathcore wasn't metal. I said it wasnt heavy metal. Those are separate genres. Metal i guess could be the umbrella term your referring to. But thats not what you said in original post


Rock- umbrella term for...
Alternative
New age
Contemporary
Etc..

Metal-umbrella term for...
Heavy metal
Death metal
Etc..

Get what I'm trying to say?



Dude I have been listening to metal for close to 15 years, I ran a successful metal blog for over 7 years, and I have never heard anyone break down heavy metal and metal as separate genres. Using the term "metal" is the exact same thing as saying "heavy metal." Heavy metal is the universally accepted term for for the genre as a whole, which encompasses all sub-genres. Some purists use "heavy metal", "classic metal" and "traditional metal" interchangeably for the old school original style of metal, but Parkway Drive would not be included stylistically in this affiliation, as this is reserved for bands of the NWOBHM genre, as well as bands like Manowar, Accept, Judas Priest, etc.

Parkway Drive is a heavy metal band, that plays under the deathcore genre. I say they are deathcore because they adapt the 2nd wave of metalcore begun in the late 90's, with stalwarts such as Unearth and Killswitch Engage as highlight acts. This new wave of metalcore differentiated itself from the 1st wave of metalcore (when hardcore punk began adapting heavier riffs, while maintaining the breakdown and backbeat of punk rock, including bands such as Merauder, Sick Of It All, Earth Crisis, Biohazard and Hatebreed), by assimilating Swedish melodic death metal riffs into it's arsenal (i.e. In Flames, At the Gates). The 2nd wave of metalcore is far more metal than punk, but the breakdowns and much of the backbeat was maintained. Parkway Drive has strong influences from the 2nd wave of metalcore.

Deathcore came about as a natural progression from the 2nd wave of metalcore, by adapting brutal death metal techniques from bands such as Suffocation and Dying Fetus. The first bands to adopt this style early on, back in the first part of the 2000's was All Shall Perish with their album Hate.Malice.Revenge, and 2003's Shut It Down from Animosity. Parkway Drive clearly adopts brutal death metal techniques, and more than that, they use very stereotypical techniques like the drop bass effect during breakdowns, drop tuning, and a growling style of vocals which is a combination of 1st wave metalcore screaming, and brutal death metal growling (including pig squeals).

Parkway Drive is painfully stereotypical deathcore. More power if you like them, but they fit the mold perfectly. Do they have some traditional melodic riffs? Yes, but that doesn't make them traditional metal, it means they are using the same riffs as the Swedes used 20 years ago when they combined Maiden-esque melodies and galloping, with death metal. Nothing new.

If you feel I'm wrong with my breakdown, I invite you to come up with a differing one.
george112
10/14/12 6:37:39PM
I will start off by saying that you listening to metal and running a blog gives you no more bearing in this discussion then if you were to have not stated those facts. Totally irrelevant and it is all based on opinion.

Genres are subjective and that was the point I was trying to make. Where your from if yall use heavy metal as the term you described then great. But where I'm from right here in Texas we don't use the term like that.

Secondly im not sure what your post was trying to accomplish other then in the end saying that I was right and acknowledging the fact that I said at the very beginning is was heavy metal. It seemed you needed to take it a step further and validate your superior metal knowledge by adding in the deathcore stuff. And by also saying that I said deathcore wasn't metal. Like I said use google or YouTube and you will find people arguing until their fingers bleed about which bands are in what genre. Deathcore.hardcore. metalcore. Melodic deathmetal. Parkway drive fits into more then one of those categories and IMO when I say they are heavy metal it is to avoid pointless arguments like these that so often frequent metal YouTube videos and what have you.

So in conclusion I stand by what I said that they are heavymetal not deathcore because I will not bind them to being lumped into just one subgenre. That being deathcore. Now like you said their are purist bands that stay true to their established genres . I don't have to list them because I'm sure you already know what I'm talking about and if not its ok because in the end it seems we are not going to agree.
Poor_Franklin
10/14/12 7:13:29PM

Posted by george112



I'm giving your song a 6.5/10

Earth Angel- The Temptations



LOVE THIS SONG 10/10!!!!!

Stevie Wonder- Higher Ground
Poor_Franklin
10/14/12 7:15:31PM
Also

Deathcore = Death Metal = Heavy Metal = Hard Rock = Rock = Alternative = Alternative Country = Country

Deathcore = Country

Did I do that right?
warglory
10/14/12 7:30:45PM

Posted by george112

I will start off by saying that you listening to metal and running a blog gives you no more bearing in this discussion then if you were to have not stated those facts. Totally irrelevant and it is all based on opinion.

Genres are subjective and that was the point I was trying to make. Where your from if yall use heavy metal as the term you described then great. But where I'm from right here in Texas we don't use the term like that.

Secondly im not sure what your post was trying to accomplish other then in the end saying that I was right and acknowledging the fact that I said at the very beginning is was heavy metal. It seemed you needed to take it a step further and validate your superior metal knowledge by adding in the deathcore stuff. And by also saying that I said deathcore wasn't metal. Like I said use google or YouTube and you will find people arguing until their fingers bleed about which bands are in what genre. Deathcore.hardcore. metalcore. Melodic deathmetal. Parkway drive fits into more then one of those categories and IMO when I say they are heavy metal it is to avoid pointless arguments like these that so often frequent metal YouTube videos and what have you.

So in conclusion I stand by what I said that they are heavymetal not deathcore because I will not bind them to being lumped into just one subgenre. That being deathcore. Now like you said their are purist bands that stay true to their established genres . I don't have to list them because I'm sure you already know what I'm talking about and if not its ok because in the end it seems we are not going to agree.




Hey dude, this is your quote:

"That's heavy metal man . Not deathcore"

You claimed Parkway Drive was not deathcore, and then you proceeded to say that metal and heavy metal are not interchangeable, and I, as thoroughly as possible, explained my position in believing you were wrong. If you want to back up your opinion, please do so, I am not trying to overshadow you here with my "metal knowledge."

I am just saying I have a lot of time and experience in the scene, and the terms you described would be considered inaccurate in the majority of the metal community based on my experience with people, including the scene in Texas. The only reason why I even bothered to explain my position as thoroughly as I did, is because you said I was wrong on not one, but two occasions.

If you didn't want to have this discussion, than maybe you shouldn't have told me I was wrong. I honestly could care less if you don't agree with me, but when you call me out on something I have a great passion for, I am going to explain my position to the best of my ability.
warglory
10/14/12 7:34:27PM

Posted by Poor_Franklin

Also

Deathcore = Death Metal = Heavy Metal = Hard Rock = Rock = Alternative = Alternative Country = Country

Deathcore = Country

Did I do that right?



Hey! I think you're on to something!
warglory
10/14/12 7:39:43PM
Oh man, Steve Wonder for the win! 10/10!



Icona Pop - Nights Like This
george112
10/14/12 7:43:01PM
Did you not read my post?

Its fairly obvious you don't comprehend what I was trying to say.

Like I stated I said they were heavy metal. Not deathcore.

I will explain this to you very simply.

Are they metal? Yes.
Are they heavy? Yes.

Are they death? No
Are they core? No

Is there such a thing as a metal band without the heavy? Yes
Is there such a thing as a metal band that is heavy? Yes

What does that give you? A metal band that is heavier then a plain metal band. Ala the heavy metal I originally was referring to.

You I have realized are one of the people that instigate the genre feud on YouTube and what not going back and forth with this and that pointing out pointless facts about the music that make it a certain genre.


Come on dude drop it already you already said deathcore was a sub genre of heavy metal making
BOTH of us right
george112
10/14/12 7:45:46PM

Posted by warglory


Posted by Poor_Franklin

Also

Deathcore = Death Metal = Heavy Metal = Hard Rock = Rock = Alternative = Alternative Country = Country

Deathcore = Country

Did I do that right?



Hey! I think you're on to something!

warglory
10/14/12 10:24:05PM

Posted by george112

Did you not read my post?

Its fairly obvious you don't comprehend what I was trying to say.

Like I stated I said they were heavy metal. Not deathcore.

I will explain this to you very simply.

Are they metal? Yes.
Are they heavy? Yes.

Are they death? No
Are they core? No

Is there such a thing as a metal band without the heavy? Yes
Is there such a thing as a metal band that is heavy? Yes

What does that give you? A metal band that is heavier then a plain metal band. Ala the heavy metal I originally was referring to.

You I have realized are one of the people that instigate the genre feud on YouTube and what not going back and forth with this and that pointing out pointless facts about the music that make it a certain genre.


Come on dude drop it already you already said deathcore was a sub genre of heavy metal making
BOTH of us right



You can patronize me all you want, but we're not in agreement. I explained why I thought you were incorrect quite thoroughly and I'll leave it at that.
george112
10/14/12 10:28:24PM
And I responded with a logically sound response.
Gogoplatapus
10/14/12 10:36:08PM

Posted by warglory

Oh man, Steve Wonder for the win! 10/10!



Icona Pop - Nights Like This



nope/10

Let's switch it up completely
airkerma
10/15/12 10:47:53AM

Posted by Gogoplatapus


Posted by warglory

Oh man, Steve Wonder for the win! 10/10!



Icona Pop - Nights Like This



nope/10

Let's switch it up completely


6/10
Enjoy!
Really good song
BuffaloDave
10/15/12 11:34:01AM

Posted by airkerma


6/10
Enjoy!
Really good song



I'll give the good ol' Ric Roll a 7/10 just because I knew the song before it was the famous RicRolled, being a 80's kid in all.


Godfather of Soul
george112
10/15/12 2:45:28PM
6/10

I like some James Brown on occasion


Dire Straits
187
10/15/12 8:30:47PM

Posted by george112

6/10

I like some James Brown on occasion


Dire Straits



your link failed but dire straits kick ass.. 10/10 for romeo and juliet (i aint even gay) 7.5/10 for anything else


Your legs! Your arms! Don't work and that is your charm..
Bubbles
10/15/12 8:33:21PM

Posted by 187

your link failed but dire straits kick ass.. 10/10 for romeo and juliet (i aint even gay) 7.5/10 for anything else


Your legs! Your arms! Don't work and that is your charm..


8/10 I'm sure the vocals will grow on me if I gave them a chance. Love the music pieces

Only because I saw them last night and they were fucking amazing:
RUSH - YYZ
george112
10/15/12 8:54:59PM

Posted by Bubbles


Posted by 187

your link failed but dire straits kick ass.. 10/10 for romeo and juliet (i aint even gay) 7.5/10 for anything else


Your legs! Your arms! Don't work and that is your charm..


8/10 I'm sure the vocals will grow on me if I gave them a chance. Love the music pieces

Only because I saw them last night and they were fucking amazing:
RUSH - YYZ



10/10!
Love that song!



Fade to black-Metallica
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