Posted by gspfan
Posted by Jackelope
Yourself, myself, and Cmill can all agree because we're all practicioners that know what an effective combination is and feels like.
Yea, no one else on here knows anything about anything. Sure wish I knew as much as you guys do.
Listen, man I wasn't trying to come off sounding cocky by saying that. It's just that I know both Mastodon and Cmill because we've all been posting here a long ass time, and I know their knowlege comes from a real life base. There's plenty of knowledgeable posters around here. If you look through all of the posts I've made on the playground I'm not the type to dis other people on the site at all. Besides maybe the occasional troll bashing.
I mainly posted that to address the TUF Fanboys who sit around getting drunk at a bar and fancy themselves knowledgeable on the sport. I'm willing to listen to all sides of the argument as long as they're brought up in an intelligent fashion. The other post you quoted, for example, brought up a good point. My counter to that would be that there's a difference in being aggressive and attempting to control the fight without being effective vs. being aggressive and attempting to control the fight while actually being effective. As someone else mentioned- Jackson proved (besides in the second round) to be the more technical striker of the two. His shots landed % was much higher. As for the damage of the actual shots- outside of the leg kicks I saw virtually no damage on Jackson. Griffin on the other hand had been rocked several times and was bleeding from several open wounds.
Ask yourself this- was there any point in the fight that you really thought Jackson was about to be finished? For me the only time I felt that was during the triangle choke Forrest put on. I gave rd. 2 a 10-8 score for Griffin simply because he absolutely controlled every aspect of the ground in that round. He made solid guard passes, and maintained control throughout the round while attempting submissions.
Compare that to Forrest who I felt at several times during the fight was a punch away from being KO'd and I saw wobble on the feet multiple times. Without listing all of the examples a certain right hook comes to mind late in rd. 1.
In conclusion to that argument I would also like to say that I feel both fighters could have been more aggressive. The whole reason for the idea behind this post is so that we have action packed fights where dudes truly put it all on the line so we can see who is the better of the two.
So, again... to clear the air here I'm not a "holier than thou" dude at all. If you want to feel that way about me I guess there's not much I can do about it, but I would hope for you to reconsider and see my reasoning.