nitricoxide supplements

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jdubs
6/18/07 9:08:34PM
anyone take them, u think they work? have u cut weight or gained weight? i started a month ago and i swear i feel a difference lifting.. or it might just be the good old placebo scheme goin on in my head

oh yea if so what brand are u using
ordean
6/20/07 2:50:54PM
I had some from GNC. I took them in the AM and then before workout. Cardio and revovery went off the charts. Not something I would take all the time but if you are struggling to stay in a work out they seemed to help.
johny_rotten
6/20/07 10:38:02PM
I have been using NOExplode for a while(as directed,) and I swear by it. It is human rocket fuel. You can seriously lift at least 10lbs more on just about everything in the gym. I am not sure about the stamina though. I will drink it before MMA class recently, and I have been gassing about 45 minutes in. I used to have better stamina.
brucelee82
6/22/07 9:03:06AM
I agree NOExplode is very good. It has ceatine in it so you do gain some weight but you can lose it really fast as well. I was definatly able to lift more 10-20lbs right off. I also felt like it helped increase my cardio. Maybe it didnt increase my cardio but it definatly decreased the resting period I need to recover.
JGeyer23
6/26/07 7:51:18PM
Nitric oxide is good for recovery as someone mentioned before.. it is a vasodilator (makes your blood vessels larger) which allows more nutrients to be available to your muscles. Many people use NO supplements for that reason and also for the "pump" that they give.. I personally feel that this pump is useless because it doesn't make you any stronger or more in shape.. just makes you feel bigger for a little while. NO-Xplode is a good product though because of the creatine in it.. creatine will increase strength and endurance.. creatine should be a staple in the diet of anyone who regularly takes part in any sort of training.

Also, if anyone who is looking for a supplement that will boost recovery rate as well as endurance (GREAT for MMA training) you really should look into Body Octane by MAN sports. I am in no way affiliated with this company, but I swear by this product ever since I first used it. If anyone is interested, you can shoot me a PM and I can tell you the best place to get it..
johny_rotten
6/26/07 9:07:04PM
NO Explode is not a sufficient source of creatine. It has a small amount. About 1/20 the amount of any suggested usage of the supplement.

I would disagree that the pump doesn't help you. It allows you to lift/work out more than normal which helps rip muscle cells at a higher rate.
jdubs
6/27/07 12:23:57AM
i have always used superpump250 but i bought some no xplode and that stuff kind of mad me feel crazy, i can only imagine how much caffine it has per serving
johny_rotten
6/27/07 12:46:14AM
I thought the same, but it has none. Caffeine actually does the opposite of NO so it can't be used together. caffeine shrinks cells while the NO is expanding them, so don't drink a power drink before or after drinking NOexplode.
jdubs
6/27/07 2:43:40PM

Posted by johny_rotten

I thought the same, but it has none. Caffeine actually does the opposite of NO so it can't be used together. caffeine shrinks cells while the NO is expanding them, so don't drink a power drink before or after drinking NOexplode.



i dont know man, i think it does.. i heard a couple people say they keep it off the label or something?? i dont know just what i have heard but u may be right
johny_rotten
6/27/07 8:27:37PM

Posted by jdubs


Posted by johny_rotten

I thought the same, but it has none. Caffeine actually does the opposite of NO so it can't be used together. caffeine shrinks cells while the NO is expanding them, so don't drink a power drink before or after drinking NOexplode.



i dont know man, i think it does.. i heard a couple people say they keep it off the label or something?? i dont know just what i have heard but u may be right



You know that is super illegal to keep something off the label, right? I am dead serious though. My sister is a pharmacist, and I check with her before I take any supplement or drug. She told me to avoid any caffeine with it, because they work against each other. Read the label it warns you not to drink caffeine with it.
jdubs
6/27/07 11:29:24PM
i just looked at the label and it says it has methylxandine (caffine) the question is how much?
johny_rotten
6/28/07 12:34:58AM

Posted by jdubs

i just looked at the label and it says it has methylxandine (caffine) the question is how much?



Wow I was wrong!!! Stupid sister.

On a side note I am glad you brought this to my attention. That type of caffine is also a diuretic. That explained a lot for me, I will spare the details.
bayonetxwork
6/29/07 2:15:55PM

Posted by johny_rotten


Posted by jdubs

i just looked at the label and it says it has methylxandine (caffine) the question is how much?



Wow I was wrong!!! Stupid sister.

On a side note I am glad you brought this to my attention. That type of caffine is also a diuretic. That explained a lot for me, I will spare the details.



Haha, I heard the same thing though, I thought caffeine was the opposite of NO. BTW, is it really illegal for some of these companies to keep stuff off the label? Whenever I read the ingredients it says its not authorized by the FDA, so is there any laws still governing them to put anything and everything that is in the supplement on the label?
fedorwins1
6/29/07 2:46:30PM

Posted by bayonetxwork

Haha, I heard the same thing though, I thought caffeine was the opposite of NO. BTW, is it really illegal for some of these companies to keep stuff off the label? Whenever I read the ingredients it says its not authorized by the FDA, so is there any laws still governing them to put anything and everything that is in the supplement on the label?



The FDA is crap, if you want to see how much the FDA looks out for us read Kevin Trudeau's book, it will open your eyes.
johny_rotten
6/30/07 3:21:55PM

Posted by bayonetxwork


Posted by johny_rotten


Posted by jdubs

i just looked at the label and it says it has methylxandine (caffine) the question is how much?



Wow I was wrong!!! Stupid sister.

On a side note I am glad you brought this to my attention. That type of caffine is also a diuretic. That explained a lot for me, I will spare the details.



Haha, I heard the same thing though, I thought caffeine was the opposite of NO. BTW, is it really illegal for some of these companies to keep stuff off the label? Whenever I read the ingredients it says its not authorized by the FDA, so is there any laws still governing them to put anything and everything that is in the supplement on the label?



If they keep something off the label, and someone is allergic or has a bad reaction to what ever wasn't listed the company would be very liable in a court of law.

What I am curious of is all the athletes that are claiming they didn't know they were taking something that made them fail the post fight drug test. Both Rocye and Vitor said everything they took was sold to them at GNC. In lue of that there has been no retort if this is possible or not. I would love to know what products at GNC if any could make you fail the drug tests they are taking.
bayonetxwork
7/1/07 4:15:31PM

Posted by johny_rotten


Posted by bayonetxwork


Posted by johny_rotten


Posted by jdubs

i just looked at the label and it says it has methylxandine (caffine) the question is how much?



Wow I was wrong!!! Stupid sister.

On a side note I am glad you brought this to my attention. That type of caffine is also a diuretic. That explained a lot for me, I will spare the details.



Haha, I heard the same thing though, I thought caffeine was the opposite of NO. BTW, is it really illegal for some of these companies to keep stuff off the label? Whenever I read the ingredients it says its not authorized by the FDA, so is there any laws still governing them to put anything and everything that is in the supplement on the label?



If they keep something off the label, and someone is allergic or has a bad reaction to what ever wasn't listed the company would be very liable in a court of law.

What I am curious of is all the athletes that are claiming they didn't know they were taking something that made them fail the post fight drug test. Both Rocye and Vitor said everything they took was sold to them at GNC. In lue of that there has been no retort if this is possible or not. I would love to know what products at GNC if any could make you fail the drug tests they are taking.



hmmm good point.
Young_Knuck
7/2/07 1:47:23AM
what about Xyience NOX-CG3?

its got creatine, arginine, and glutamine
Ravener
7/2/07 4:17:21AM
NOExplode is pretty popular in the bodybuilding circles as well, largely due to the creatine since the NO pump has really been discredited as having little value other than the actual pump.

There are other products that do basically the same thing, the cheapest being your classic Creatine Monohydrate, preferably the micronized version which dissolves easier. Green Magnitude from i think Controlled Labs tastes great and has a few different types of creatines in it. Xyience NOXCG3 is a decent product, the CG3 part comes from it having 3 types of glutamines and 3 types of creatines, but there are equal or better products for a far cheaper price. Xyience has a lot of marketing to pay for and that makes a lot of their stuff overpriced.

Caffiene does work antagonistically to creatines, but I don't know how much of one it takes to zero out the other. From what I've read you can drink caffienated stuff every few days and it shouldn't impact the proven benefits that creatine brings to your workouts. Most of the pre-workout stuff like White Flood and other ones have caffeine in them also, but it's not unknown for a company to put 2 ingredients that work against each other.

The supp market preys on people who don't read all the labels, or just look for a single ingredient without considering how all the ingredients interact.
Supplements are such a slippery topic, a while back everyone was jizzing about guggulsterones and CEE, then once they actually get tested by science it turns out one is VERY bad for you, and one works worse than what it was intended to replace. People get on forums and say that within a day of taking something they've increased their benchpress by 20lb and nobody waits for the science. Nobody sticks around once their miracle supp is debunked, by that time they've moved on to the next miracle.

The bottom line is that the best bona fide testing on any sports supplement has been done on creatine monohydrate, so if you want something guaranteed effective, that is your best bet.

Check the labels, know what each ingredient does and make sure your choice of supplement has everything you want and not a whole lot more.
Leland
7/2/07 2:13:45PM
I took some one time before I worked out, and my veins were the size of a water hose haha. It does help you lift. I could lift a little more than I normally ever could. Basically all it does is widen your veins to help blood flow easily. I'm sure theres more to it, but thats what it does basically :)
DevonFoxy
7/2/07 2:40:24PM
ok i take N.O. Eplode also but i have yet to find a flavor thats good i tried grape and it was horrible then i tried lemonade and it was worse then the grape so any suggestions on the flavor?
jdubs
7/2/07 10:07:01PM

Posted by DevonFoxy

ok i take N.O. Eplode also but i have yet to find a flavor thats good i tried grape and it was horrible then i tried lemonade and it was worse then the grape so any suggestions on the flavor?



i have the blue raspberry and i dont think it is too bad, i mean the stuff mixes great compared to sumperpump250 which is what i too before and tastes a whole lot better
DevonFoxy
7/2/07 10:27:35PM
good call ill try that cuz i get it for free at GNC. DON'T TRY THE LEMONADE. lol.But im seriously the stuff is rank.
jdubs
7/3/07 12:29:23AM
what, free.. how?
DevonFoxy
7/3/07 12:30:36AM
oh lol your prolly not interested but i work at a pretzel place in our mall here in hicksville FL and i give the people there free pretzels for free N.O Explode. pretty good deal IMO.lol
casey64
7/7/07 11:41:49PM
I use BodyFortress Creatine,helped me.
DevonFoxy
7/9/07 12:01:53PM
Thank you very much for suggesting blueraz. its not great but better then any other flavor ive tried. so agian thank you
jdubs
7/9/07 4:40:08PM

Posted by DevonFoxy

Thank you very much for suggesting blueraz. its not great but better then any other flavor ive tried. so agian thank you



you bet, i see your a kos fan... hopefully he beats the sh*t out of gsp and gains a little respect
DevonFoxy
7/9/07 9:22:43PM
I think he has a great chance to win i just hope everyone else doesn't so the money will be good when he does
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