New Rules for UFC

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Ultimate_fighter
5/7/07 8:09:19PM
Do you think there should be some new rules or some changed? If so what ones?
Buddharox
5/7/07 8:47:19PM
Knees on the ground
JunCTion
5/7/07 8:54:29PM
you got to give the strikers another option when on the ground with a superior wrestler or grappler.

the best thing the UFC can add is the stand up rule from pride. i get tired of guys keeping their opponent on the ground but not doing any damage. just laying there trying to coast to a win.

i also loved it when herb dean told AA and werdum that he was going to penelize the next fighter who retreated without making an effort to fight .

basically, no more lazy ho hum fights.
THE_AXE_MURDERER
5/7/07 9:09:40PM
Knees on the ground.
russ_95670
5/8/07 2:20:33AM
a 10 count like pancrase
nate22
5/8/07 6:06:01AM
+1, knees on the ground.
warglory
5/8/07 8:49:24AM

Posted by russ_95670

a 10 count like pancrase



Pancrase can get away with that because the strikes are not as brutal as UFC. It's dangerous to allow 10 counts in MMA.
Mastodon2
5/8/07 9:54:48AM
Knees, soccer kicks and head stamps to downed opponents, No top limit on the HW division, a 10 minute first round, the Pride scoring system that helps fighters that fight and doesnt aid lay n pray specialists. A ring wouldnt be bad either.
tberg420
5/8/07 11:16:46AM
I don't want the UFC to become UFC/PRIDE Lite. MMA gets enough crap as it is for being not a real sport and barbaric. Adding knees to a downed opponent adds fuel to that fire. I'm in a huge majority but I still wouldn't allow that aspect to the sport at this moment. The only rule that I'm in favor of changing is stalling on the ground. I liked what Elitx/XC did with the 10 count thing and if no one did anything then stand them up. Please no freak fights either. I like the weight limit as you don't have people like Butterball in there embarrasing the sport. He did fix some boxing fights if you remember.
tomp6581
5/8/07 12:57:57PM
1) Knee's on the ground
2) Limit the time a fighter can use the fence for his advantage on the ground....eg if a fighter has his opponent pressed againt the fence and purposely trying to stay that position.....the ref has the right to stand them up.
3) Strikes thrown AFTER the ref has stopped the fight will equal 10% of the fighters purse PER strike thrown. (I hate fighters who do this!)



For all the people who are against knees on the ground.........what is the difference between knees standing up and knees on the ground? They are both "as bad" or "as good" as each other surely?


ps look at this poll!

http://www.mmaplayground.com/forums/topic3125-1.html
Stickan
5/8/07 1:17:07PM

Posted by russ_95670

a 10 count like pancrase



=first deaths in MMA
Buddharox
5/8/07 2:02:17PM
I'd also like to see Pride's yellow card system put in place.
loller90278
5/8/07 2:10:30PM
eye gauging so chucks wins can be legit now
pv3Hpv3p
5/8/07 2:25:18PM

Posted by Stickan


Posted by russ_95670

a 10 count like pancrase



=first deaths in MMA



+1 to that... I don't think we need a bunch of punch drunk old MMA guys walking around in 10 years or so...

I like the idea of Knees to the head of a downed opponent, but I don't think the NSAC or any other states AC's will alow stomps/soccer kicks... So I guess getting the knees is a good compromise.

I've always liked the 10 min 1st rd that Pride had and the yellow card system... I think both of these things promote fighters to finish a fight instead of coasting to a win...
pv3Hpv3p
5/8/07 2:28:34PM

Posted by tberg420

I don't want the UFC to become UFC/PRIDE Lite. MMA gets enough crap as it is for being not a real sport and barbaric. Adding knees to a downed opponent adds fuel to that fire. I'm in a huge majority but I still wouldn't allow that aspect to the sport at this moment. The only rule that I'm in favor of changing is stalling on the ground. I liked what Elitx/XC did with the 10 count thing and if no one did anything then stand them up. Please no freak fights either. I like the weight limit as you don't have people like Butterball in there embarrasing the sport. He did fix some boxing fights if you remember.



I don't agree with the 10 sec clock on the ground... It takes a significant amount of effort and time to advance positions when on the ground... It would nullify alot of peoples JJ if they had to rush something like this... It's a lot easier to hold on for 10-20 seconds, than it is to continually advance pos or strike effectively.
tberg420
5/8/07 2:34:01PM
I don't think that I made it clear as the rule is 10 seconds after inactivity starts. A warning by the ref would then start the clock. That way a guy's JJ couldn't be taken away from him. Again, not my idea as it was put into play by Elite XC.
zephead
5/8/07 2:44:29PM
I read that Dana and Mark Ratner are working on the knees to the head of a downed opponet with governing bodies of each state that has anctioned MMA
pv3Hpv3p
5/8/07 3:24:12PM

Posted by zephead

I read that Dana and Mark Ratner are working on the knees to the head of a downed opponet with governing bodies of each state that has anctioned MMA



The head of the NSAC, his name escapes me, was interviewed on the beatdown last week or the week before, and he said something to the effect that he could envision something like this passing, but would assume that the NJSAC would be the first to pass it... He also said, that he didn't see how soccer kicks/stomps would ever be allowed.
zephead
5/8/07 3:27:10PM

Posted by pv3Hpv3p


Posted by zephead

I read that Dana and Mark Ratner are working on the knees to the head of a downed opponet with governing bodies of each state that has anctioned MMA



The head of the NSAC, his name escapes me, was interviewed on the beatdown last week or the week before, and he said something to the effect that he could envision something like this passing, but would assume that the NJSAC would be the first to pass it... He also said, that he didn't see how soccer kicks/stomps would ever be allowed.



They're not even going to try for the stomps and soccer kicks. Would never pass and they don't want to try. What a heard was that New Jersey would pas it and then Vegas would follow
Buddharox
5/8/07 4:07:48PM
I also like 10 min first rounds.
russ_95670
5/8/07 5:40:33PM
well, i mean when a guy gets hit falls down and then gets hit 6 times with his head bouncing off the mat isnt much better, a clean shot that stuns the guy or knocks him down gets a 10 sec count and if the ref determines hes not ok to go on he can stop it, im still cool with ground and pound just as long as it begins on the ground.

and no 10 min first round i want to see fighters will full stamina or at least close towards the end of the fight, grappling takes a lot out of you no matter you physical condition.

and maybe a 5 oz glove that can keep the same flexibility.
blkssncpt
5/15/07 12:03:38PM
knees on the ground would'nt be bad but soccer kicks and stomps are to much like a street fight... i dont know , i guess thats the one thing about pride that i was never fond of they just seem way too brutal, just my two cents
Mastodon2
5/15/07 12:11:07PM

Posted by russ_95670


and no 10 min first round i want to see fighters will full stamina or at least close towards the end of the fight, grappling takes a lot out of you no matter you physical condition.



If you watch Pride, you will see that the 10 minute first round doesnt destroy fighters, because they improve their cardio to handle it. Not that I want to Bash UFC here, because I love it too, but Ive seen a lot more fighters gassing because they hadnt trained hard enough in UFC I have in Pride.

ncordless
5/15/07 3:03:46PM
1) Knees to the head of a downed opponent. They need this rule to even the playing field between strikers and wrestlers.

2) An anti-stalling rule of some sort. Not the yellow card system.

3) Tournaments.... then make the UFC vs. Pride the winners of both their respective tourneys for that year.

4) If Dana White is always going to demand exclusive contracts, then there should be some kind of organization looking out for the interests of the fighters. Sorta like other sports' Players Unions.

5) Speaking of Dana, he should never be allowed to fight again. We want this to be a SPORT!!!! Not a version of pro wrestling with real action. Vince McMahon steps in the ring all the time. Does Dana really want those comparisons made?
the-james
5/15/07 6:06:13PM

Posted by Stickan


Posted by russ_95670

a 10 count like pancrase



=first deaths in MMA



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tepid55
5/15/07 7:15:31PM
They need to bring back knees to the head of a grounded opponent and go back to the old-school regulation time and overtime and get rid of the rounds.
Northrend
5/15/07 7:25:38PM
elbows, knees, stomps, soccer kicks

VALE TUDO UFC BABY
kerazzle
5/15/07 9:27:11PM
the 10 second clock is a stupid idea, its unfair for ground practitioners. I think they should scrap the 10 must system and allow knees to the head on th e ground.
Mastodon2
5/16/07 2:28:23AM
After watching Emmerson vs Cory Hill on TUF5 last night, Im now convinced more than ever that UFC should adopt the Pride judging.

Whereas UFC allows someone to edge the first 2 rounds in their favour and get destroyed in the third they could still win by having the majority of rounds in their favour, whereas in Pride the whole fight is scored like one long round. That takes away th edge of stallers and lay n prayers.

Cory Hill won that first round (just) but Emmerson was destroying him in the second. Imo, Emmerson's domination over cory in the second round was greater than Cory's control of Emmerson in the first, but the UFC judges still saw it was 1 round each and moved to sudden victory. Emmerson got screwed by the judging system and the judges...


Which leads me to my next point. Leg kicks. I wish UFC judges would respect leg kicks more, they dont realise that they are a devastating attack that can kill a fighters mobility and their will to fight. Emmerson landed loads of great leg kicks, and Cory was noticeably slowed down by them, but they were under valued by the UFC judges. They seem to see them as some kind of defensive strike or a feeler strike rather than a real attack, and as we all know, they are very much a real attack, and I wish the UFC judges would represent them fairly!
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