Posted by Rabi
That Pile driver wasnt illigal, but after that knee Leites wasnt the same after that and was in survival mode.
Umm, that piledriver was completely illegal and dangerous. (fun as hell to see, but illegal nonetheless) Here are the fouls for MMA as listed by NSAC:
Putting a finger into any orifice or into any cut or laceration on an opponent. (see Gouging)
Striking downward using the point of the elbow. (see Elbow (strike))
Clawing, pinching or twisting the flesh.
Grabbing the clavicle.
Kicking the head of a grounded opponent.
Kneeing the head of a grounded opponent.
Stomping a grounded opponent. Spiking an opponent to the canvas on his head or neck. (see piledriver)
Holding the shorts or gloves of an opponent.
Spitting at an opponent.
Engaging in an unsportsmanlike conduct that causes an injury to an opponent.
Using abusive language in the ring or fenced area.
Attacking an opponent on or during the break.
Attacking an opponent who is under the care of the referee.
Attacking an opponent after the bell has sounded the end of the period of unarmed combat.
Flagrantly disregarding the instructions of the referee.
Timidity, including, without limitation, avoiding contact with an opponent, intentionally or consistently dropping the mouthpiece or faking an injury.
Interference by the corner.
Throwing in the towel during competition. (forfeit)
I can't believe that there wasn't any commentary given during or after the fight about the pile driver, and I'm even more frightened that Herb Dean didn't even deduct a point. That's negligence on the part of the ref if you ask me. I didn't realize it was illegal either until I heard Big john talking about the fight on Inside MMA. But after knowing the rules better and watching that fight a few times, I'm shocked that it wasn't a DQ win for Leites.
I can see where the initial knee may be inadvertant. Leites was on his way up, and I think Nate just timed the knee poorly. but that knee had a clear impact on the match. And Nate was warned about elbows earlier in the match. I don't think the strike that resulted in the deduction was illegal itself, but given the context of the bout to that point, I don't completely disagree with Dean's deduction.
I like Marquardt, and I don't recall seeing him fight that dirty before. I'm not sure you can just chalk it up to an 'off night', but he didn't deserve for the fight to even get to the judges. It should have been a DQ immediatly following the pile driver. Dean dropped the ball on that one.