Nate Diaz’s middle finger gesture during fight rattled Fox broadcast, but not Benson Henderson

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Wolfenstein
12/9/12 2:52:16PM
During Benson Henderson's win over Nate Diaz at UFC on Fox 5, the Fox broadcast repeatedly cut away to a shot of the empty octagon. Was it a technical difficulty? Did someone on Fox's broadcast truck hit the wrong button?

No. Diaz threw up the middle finger at his opponent, and the network cut away instead of risking a fine from the Federal Communications Commission.

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emfleek
12/9/12 2:56:43PM


I was wondering what was going on. Damn I love that kid.

BJ's coach kept screaming F-bombs during the introductions, too. FOX kept having to cut the sound.
tcunningham
12/9/12 3:26:27PM
there is nothing like the Diaz brother's octagon antics. i dont particularly like either diaz brother but they do keep it entertaining, even if they are losing badly like the bendo fight last night.
prophecy033
12/9/12 4:11:35PM
I don't particularly like either of the Diaz brothers antics but if I had to choose the lesser of two evils it would be Nate for sure.
tallica62
12/9/12 4:24:46PM
Diaz brothers rule... they talk an absurd amount of game, but they back it up 10 fold...win or lose...they scare and intimidate the hell out of me
bjj1605
12/9/12 4:27:42PM
Their antics are entertaining but they're gonna have to tone it down for Fox.

The UFC should start handing out fines for things like this. It's part of becoming a legitimate sport. The NFL does it.
george112
12/9/12 4:31:28PM

Posted by bjj1605

Their antics are entertaining but they're gonna have to tone it down for Fox.

The UFC should start handing out fines for things like this. It's part of becoming a legitimate sport. The NFL does it.



I agree with this.

Of course there will be time to taunt and what not but do it in good taste.

You don't see NBA or NFL players give the other team the middle finger when they score on them. And of they did there would be a fine.
jay98107
12/9/12 4:42:24PM

Posted by george112


Posted by bjj1605

Their antics are entertaining but they're gonna have to tone it down for Fox.

The UFC should start handing out fines for things like this. It's part of becoming a legitimate sport. The NFL does it.



I agree with this.

Of course there will be time to taunt and what not but do it in good taste.

You don't see NBA or NFL players give the other team the middle finger when they score on them. And of they did there would be a fine.



Taunt in good taste? Sorry, too difficult an idea to enforce. To me it's always fairly dickish, whether it's a Diaz brother flipping someone off, Rashad Evans grabbing his nutsack, or Rory MacDonald dancing like Muhammad Ali when he has yet to accomplish anything that is even in the vaguest sense Aliesque. You're right about NBA and NFL players not flipping each other off, but they also get suspended for hitting each other. Needless to say MMA has substantially different standards.
kingsmasher
12/9/12 4:45:54PM

Posted by tallica62

Diaz brothers rule... they talk an absurd amount of game, but they back it up 10 fold...win or lose...they scare and intimidate the hell out of me




How do the Diaz brothers back up their talk they get there ass whooped a lot...and neither have any chance against a wrestler...not only that but Diaz said he was a btter fighter than Ben...HE was totally wrong....Ben whipped him silly was not even close....

In a rematch I could see the odds at -450 Henderson
jay98107
12/9/12 4:49:02PM

Posted by kingsmasher


Posted by tallica62

Diaz brothers rule... they talk an absurd amount of game, but they back it up 10 fold...win or lose...they scare and intimidate the hell out of me




How do the Diaz brothers back up their talk they get there ass whooped a lot...and neither have any chance against a wrestler...not only that but Diaz said he was a btter fighter than Ben...HE was totally wrong....Ben whipped him silly was not even close....

In a rematch I could see the odds at -450 Henderson



What a bold prediction. Hindsight is 20/20.
kingsmasher
12/9/12 4:50:21PM
If the antics Diaz did were in the NFL a big fine and suspension possibly and most teams wont tolerate it...and would look to trade you...

There straight up punks and I guess thats what happens when your parents arent around and your older brother weed smoker is your idol...

There a time to mature up...they dont get it and personally I think they act like thugs...

I am curious what kind of people really like these guys...No moral values and clearly would you want them to be around your children...
jjeans
12/9/12 4:53:16PM

Posted by kingsmasher

neither have any chance against a wrestler...







kingsmasher
12/9/12 4:54:32PM

Posted by jay98107


Posted by kingsmasher


Posted by tallica62

Diaz brothers rule... they talk an absurd amount of game, but they back it up 10 fold...win or lose...they scare and intimidate the hell out of me




How do the Diaz brothers back up their talk they get there ass whooped a lot...and neither have any chance against a wrestler...not only that but Diaz said he was a btter fighter than Ben...HE was totally wrong....Ben whipped him silly was not even close....

In a rematch I could see the odds at -450 Henderson



What a bold prediction. Hindsight is 20/20.




Well you have to consider what oddsmakers think...What money line would you make it? seriously after getting manhandled personally I wouldnt want to waste ten dollars to win 45 betting on Diaz....the odds would have to be like Jones and Chael to even consider a dollar on Diaz his game is basically standup and his groung game is good but hes way to weak for a guy like Ben...Nate Diaz needs two years of muscle to be a threat to Ben...Thats why he was rag dolled the whole fight...Did you see Henderson after the fight..
kingsmasher
12/9/12 4:58:24PM

Posted by jjeans


Posted by kingsmasher

neither have any chance against a wrestler...











WHo is mad IM happy I think Diaz is a punk and needs an attitude adjustment....


Hes never beaten a decent wrestler....He didnt even beat Clay Guida...He lost to Maynard...

His best win was against Cerrone and Cerrone claimed to have had a broken Jaw...

your what maybe 16? your a child who hides behind a computer screen
jay98107
12/9/12 4:58:50PM

Posted by kingsmasher

If the antics Diaz did were in the NFL a big fine and suspension possibly and most teams wont tolerate it...and would look to trade you...

There straight up punks and I guess thats what happens when your parents arent around and your older brother weed smoker is your idol...

There a time to mature up...they dont get it and personally I think they act like thugs...

I am curious what kind of people really like these guys...No moral values and clearly would you want them to be around your children...



There are so many things that baffle me about this post, but I suppose that could be said about anything kingsmasher related.

1.) This is not the NFL. The comparisons between the two should stop, as evidenced by your mention of "being traded" as a result of such behavior, which isn't even a concept in MMA (unless you think the UFC is going to trade the Diaz brothers to Bellator, who sell tickets due to exciting, quality fights).

2.) I like these fighters, because they are tough, well-rounded and exciting (save takedown defense). I have "moral values", at least I think so, but that does not necessarily dictate what athletes I enjoy watching. Or what films or music I enjoy listening to. I really liked the movie "There Will Be Blood", that doesn't mean I would want my hypothetical children to behave like Daniel Plainsview. I love watching Lawrence Taylor highlights, that doesn't mean I want myself and my children doing blow with Lawrence Taylor and sleeping with teenage prostitutes.





...On second thought I would love to do blow with Lawrence Taylor.
kingsmasher
12/9/12 4:59:47PM

Posted by jay98107


Posted by kingsmasher


Posted by tallica62

Diaz brothers rule... they talk an absurd amount of game, but they back it up 10 fold...win or lose...they scare and intimidate the hell out of me




How do the Diaz brothers back up their talk they get there ass whooped a lot...and neither have any chance against a wrestler...not only that but Diaz said he was a btter fighter than Ben...HE was totally wrong....Ben whipped him silly was not even close....

In a rematch I could see the odds at -450 Henderson



What a bold prediction. Hindsight is 20/20.



Bold prediction I put half this fake ass money roll on Henderson...I never thought the fight would be close period...
jay98107
12/9/12 5:00:41PM

Posted by kingsmasher


Posted by jay98107


Posted by kingsmasher


Posted by tallica62

Diaz brothers rule... they talk an absurd amount of game, but they back it up 10 fold...win or lose...they scare and intimidate the hell out of me




How do the Diaz brothers back up their talk they get there ass whooped a lot...and neither have any chance against a wrestler...not only that but Diaz said he was a btter fighter than Ben...HE was totally wrong....Ben whipped him silly was not even close....

In a rematch I could see the odds at -450 Henderson



What a bold prediction. Hindsight is 20/20.




Well you have to consider what oddsmakers think...What money line would you make it? seriously after getting manhandled personally I wouldnt want to waste ten dollars to win 45 betting on Diaz....the odds would have to be like Jones and Chael to even consider a dollar on Diaz his game is basically standup and his groung game is good but hes way to weak for a guy like Ben...Nate Diaz needs two years of muscle to be a threat to Ben...Thats why he was rag dolled the whole fight...Did you see Henderson after the fight..



Yes, I saw him, I was there live. What I'm saying is your claims are hardly revelatory, because we all saw the fight last night, as did the oddsmakers.
jay98107
12/9/12 5:03:27PM

Posted by kingsmasher


Posted by jjeans


Posted by kingsmasher

neither have any chance against a wrestler...











WHo is mad IM happy I think Diaz is a punk and needs an attitude adjustment....


Hes never beaten a decent wrestler....He didnt even beat Clay Guida...He lost to Maynard...

His best win was against Cerrone and Cerrone claimed to have had a broken Jaw...

your what maybe 16? your a child who hides behind a computer screen



We're all hiding behind computer screens. I'm surprised someone with your reading comprehension isn't a big Diaz fan.
jjeans
12/9/12 5:10:49PM

Posted by kingsmasher


Posted by jjeans


Posted by kingsmasher

neither have any chance against a wrestler...











WHo is mad IM happy I think Diaz is a punk and needs an attitude adjustment....


Hes never beaten a decent wrestler....He didnt even beat Clay Guida...He lost to Maynard...

His best win was against Cerrone and Cerrone claimed to have had a broken Jaw...

your what maybe 16? your a child who hides behind a computer screen



Show me where you said decent wrestler? You said neither have a chance against a wrestler, I showed you 2...
prozacnation1978
12/9/12 5:31:42PM
If fox can't handle the antics that sometimes comes with MMA stay the Fuck away from the business
george112
12/9/12 5:46:46PM

Posted by jay98107


Posted by george112


Posted by bjj1605

Their antics are entertaining but they're gonna have to tone it down for Fox.

The UFC should start handing out fines for things like this. It's part of becoming a legitimate sport. The NFL does it.



I agree with this.

Of course there will be time to taunt and what not but do it in good taste.

You don't see NBA or NFL players give the other team the middle finger when they score on them. And of they did there would be a fine.



Taunt in good taste? Sorry, too difficult an idea to enforce. To me it's always fairly dickish, whether it's a Diaz brother flipping someone off, Rashad Evans grabbing his nutsack, or Rory MacDonald dancing like Muhammad Ali when he has yet to accomplish anything that is even in the vaguest sense Aliesque. You're right about NBA and NFL players not flipping each other off, but they also get suspended for hitting each other. Needless to say MMA has substantially different standards.



You looked too far into my good taste comment.

I meant taunting without having to be censored. Rorys shuffle would have fit my good taste standard. Obviously Diaz giving the bird did not.

It's FOX not HBO remember

Sir_Karl
12/9/12 7:47:01PM

Posted by kingsmasher


Posted by tallica62

Diaz brothers rule... they talk an absurd amount of game, but they back it up 10 fold...win or lose...they scare and intimidate the hell out of me




How do the Diaz brothers back up their talk they get there ass whooped a lot...and neither have any chance against a wrestler...not only that but Diaz said he was a btter fighter than Ben...HE was totally wrong....Ben whipped him silly was not even close....

In a rematch I could see the odds at -450 Henderson



The DIaz brothers may get beat now and then but they don't get their "ass whooped". Nick has only been finished once and that was eons ago, it was a fluke and he avenged the loss twice. Nate has only been finished once and that was a while ago as well and it was to a far more experienced fighter. The only times they lose are decisions and they are usually close or even split decisions. Even in the few rare times they are somewhat outclassed or unable to force their will for whatever reason they are always tough as nails trying to implement their game as well as withstanding everything that their opponent is throwing at them. The Diaz boys never get their "ass whooped".
FlashyG
12/9/12 8:57:48PM

Posted by Sir_Karl


Posted by kingsmasher


Posted by tallica62

Diaz brothers rule... they talk an absurd amount of game, but they back it up 10 fold...win or lose...they scare and intimidate the hell out of me




How do the Diaz brothers back up their talk they get there ass whooped a lot...and neither have any chance against a wrestler...not only that but Diaz said he was a btter fighter than Ben...HE was totally wrong....Ben whipped him silly was not even close....

In a rematch I could see the odds at -450 Henderson



The DIaz brothers may get beat now and then but they don't get their "ass whooped". Nick has only been finished once and that was eons ago, it was a fluke and he avenged the loss twice. Nate has only been finished once and that was a while ago as well and it was to a far more experienced fighter. The only times they lose are decisions and they are usually close or even split decisions. Even in the few rare times they are somewhat outclassed or unable to force their will for whatever reason they are always tough as nails trying to implement their game as well as withstanding everything that their opponent is throwing at them. The Diaz boys never get their "ass whooped".



I agree for the most part, but Nate unquestionably got his ass whooped by Henderson.
Manak
12/9/12 9:15:04PM
with some of the shit they put on tv these days; im still surprised the middle finger is unacceptable
jay98107
12/9/12 9:29:59PM

Posted by Manak

with some of the shit they put on tv these days; im still surprised the middle finger is unacceptable



Exactly. Doesn't FOX have a bunch of hackneyed racist/sexist jokes on like 3 different Seth MacFarlane vehicles? Didn't know they were going to get coy with us on the middle finger.
Bubbles
12/9/12 10:51:56PM
how about they don't put a Diaz on these free cards? Have they never watched a Diaz fight before? How can anyone actually be surprised by this?
bjj1605
12/10/12 9:17:16AM

Posted by jay98107


1.) This is not the NFL. The comparisons between the two should stop, as evidenced by your mention of "being traded" as a result of such behavior, which isn't even a concept in MMA (unless you think the UFC is going to trade the Diaz brothers to Bellator, who sell tickets due to exciting, quality fights).



Obviously getting traded doesn't apply. Conducting yourself like a professional does.

Doing a little touchdown dance in the NFL won't get you a fine. Shuffling your feet in the UFC shouldn't get you a fine.

Cussing or making lewd/crude gestures should get you a fine in both.

If the UFC wants to be taken seriously as a legitimate sport, they need to enforce the rules of a legitimate sport. That includes athletes that don't put broadcasters in the awkward position of having to decided whether to show the action or get a fine from the FEC.

I guarantee you that Fox has already talked to the UFC about this and explained that such behavior is unacceptable. And I'm sure the UFC will listen. They don't want their first deal with a major network to fall through because they couldn't control stop the immature antics of a few fighters.