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ohiostate1016
1/10/08 2:05:04PM
Happy New Year!!!

It may be a little late but this is the first MMA Talk of 2008. I ended last year with a Year in Review. I would like to start this year looking ahead. I expect it to be another great year for MMA with exciting fights and great fighters.

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ohiostate1016
1/10/08 2:06:47PM
Not my blog, but this guy brings it every time I read his stuff. Enjoy!
StevieC
1/10/08 2:49:30PM
They need to find another guy to write MMA for the Sporting News.

First, Brock is already fighting someone in the Top Ten (For the UFC) at HW.

GSP, if he beats Serra, will fight Fitch, if he beats Gono.

Penn won't beat Sherk.

Sylvia won't beat Nog.

I like that he has Hendo beating Silva but if that happens Hendersons next fight will probably be against Silva again.

If Henderson stays MW, Silva and Hendo will be 1/2 for a while.

And yes it would be sweet to get Gomi and Lindland, and......Sakuri, Fihlo, Melendez, Aoki, Ishida, Rothwell, Lawler, Trigg, Misaki, Akiyama, Shields, Condit, JC, and ofcourse Fedor.

There is more on the mind but Dana White will be busy with these guys I'm sure.
jae_1833
1/10/08 2:57:30PM
I liked the article and it remeinded me of who Kyle was....I am surprised that he is allowed to fight...hopefully Ricco will lay down a STANK a$$ whoopin'!!!
ohiostate1016
1/10/08 3:05:25PM

Posted by StevieC

They need to find another guy to write MMA for the Sporting News.

First, Brock is already fighting someone in the Top Ten (For the UFC) at HW.

GSP, if he beats Serra, will fight Fitch, if he beats Gono.

Penn won't beat Sherk.

Sylvia won't beat Nog.

I like that he has Hendo beating Silva but if that happens Hendersons next fight will probably be against Silva again.

If Henderson stays MW, Silva and Hendo will be 1/2 for a while.

And yes it would be sweet to get Gomi and Lindland, and......Sakuri, Fihlo, Melendez, Aoki, Ishida, Rothwell, Lawler, Trigg, Misaki, Akiyama, Shields, Condit, JC, and ofcourse Fedor.

There is more on the mind but Dana White will be busy with these guys I'm sure.



Just because you don't agree with him doesn't mean he's wrong. First of all, Mir is not a top ten HW (who cares if he's top ten in the UFC?). Penn could very well beat Sherk, especially if Sherk isn't on roids anymore. And I could also see Sylvia beating Nog. Nog struggled with a guy like Herring that could strike, and Big Tim is just a bigger and taller version of Herring. But what I'm saying is don't discount something that you don't automatically agree with.
StevieC
1/10/08 3:46:17PM

Posted by ohiostate1016


Posted by StevieC

They need to find another guy to write MMA for the Sporting News.

First, Brock is already fighting someone in the Top Ten (For the UFC) at HW.

GSP, if he beats Serra, will fight Fitch, if he beats Gono.

Penn won't beat Sherk.

Sylvia won't beat Nog.

I like that he has Hendo beating Silva but if that happens Hendersons next fight will probably be against Silva again.

If Henderson stays MW, Silva and Hendo will be 1/2 for a while.

And yes it would be sweet to get Gomi and Lindland, and......Sakuri, Fihlo, Melendez, Aoki, Ishida, Rothwell, Lawler, Trigg, Misaki, Akiyama, Shields, Condit, JC, and ofcourse Fedor.

There is more on the mind but Dana White will be busy with these guys I'm sure.



Just because you don't agree with him doesn't mean he's wrong. First of all, Mir is not a top ten HW (who cares if he's top ten in the UFC?). Penn could very well beat Sherk, especially if Sherk isn't on roids anymore. And I could also see Sylvia beating Nog. Nog struggled with a guy like Herring that could strike, and Big Tim is just a bigger and taller version of Herring. But what I'm saying is don't discount something that you don't automatically agree with.




That's the beauty of these boards bro, if you don't want it to get picked apart then don't post it. And I know Mir isn't top ten, I said he was top ten in the UFC, I mentioned that because Lesnar is only going to fight UFC guys....

I know Penn could beat Sherk, but he won't.

I know Sylvia could beat Nog, but he won't.

Sorry to ruffle your feathers bro....Ohio State sucks! LOL just kidding
StevieC
1/10/08 3:53:13PM
O ya, roids doesn't make you a better fighter. Sherk is a stamina guy and steriods hurts your conditioning and endurance, so the fact that Sherk passed a lie detector test saying he didn't know he took steriods doesn't surprise me. But if he was a roid user(on a consistant basis) and went off of them then his stamina would even be better than it is now......not good news for Penn or Stevenson, but really Penn.
tuvok500
1/10/08 4:24:42PM

Posted by StevieC

O ya, roids doesn't make you a better fighter. Sherk is a stamina guy and steriods hurts your conditioning and endurance, so the fact that Sherk passed a lie detector test saying he didn't know he took steriods doesn't surprise me. But if he was a roid user(on a consistant basis) and went off of them then his stamina would even be better than it is now......not good news for Penn or Stevenson, but really Penn.



Sherk will be humiliate live in front of my eyes in montreal man !! lol

And it will make me very happy to see BJ submitt him like a baby !!

StevieC
1/10/08 4:30:51PM

Posted by tuvok500


Posted by StevieC

O ya, roids doesn't make you a better fighter. Sherk is a stamina guy and steriods hurts your conditioning and endurance, so the fact that Sherk passed a lie detector test saying he didn't know he took steriods doesn't surprise me. But if he was a roid user(on a consistant basis) and went off of them then his stamina would even be better than it is now......not good news for Penn or Stevenson, but really Penn.



Sherk will be humiliate live in front of my eyes in montreal man !! lol

And it will make me very happy to see BJ submitt him like a baby !!




Fights are 50/50 so I can't say I know for a fact Sherk will win...

But I am about 95% sure that if Sherk loses it won't be by submission.....
jocksmall
1/10/08 5:21:40PM
i liked the article . the guy seemed reasonable and his predictions were not unreasonable. noone can get that in-depth and be right about everything but he seemed logical. i hope everyone else boycotts the mike kyle fight the guy is everything described and more
ohiostate1016
1/11/08 1:48:01AM

Posted by StevieC


Posted by ohiostate1016


Posted by StevieC

They need to find another guy to write MMA for the Sporting News.

First, Brock is already fighting someone in the Top Ten (For the UFC) at HW.

GSP, if he beats Serra, will fight Fitch, if he beats Gono.

Penn won't beat Sherk.

Sylvia won't beat Nog.

I like that he has Hendo beating Silva but if that happens Hendersons next fight will probably be against Silva again.

If Henderson stays MW, Silva and Hendo will be 1/2 for a while.

And yes it would be sweet to get Gomi and Lindland, and......Sakuri, Fihlo, Melendez, Aoki, Ishida, Rothwell, Lawler, Trigg, Misaki, Akiyama, Shields, Condit, JC, and ofcourse Fedor.

There is more on the mind but Dana White will be busy with these guys I'm sure.



Just because you don't agree with him doesn't mean he's wrong. First of all, Mir is not a top ten HW (who cares if he's top ten in the UFC?). Penn could very well beat Sherk, especially if Sherk isn't on roids anymore. And I could also see Sylvia beating Nog. Nog struggled with a guy like Herring that could strike, and Big Tim is just a bigger and taller version of Herring. But what I'm saying is don't discount something that you don't automatically agree with.




That's the beauty of these boards bro, if you don't want it to get picked apart then don't post it. And I know Mir isn't top ten, I said he was top ten in the UFC, I mentioned that because Lesnar is only going to fight UFC guys....

I know Penn could beat Sherk, but he won't.

I know Sylvia could beat Nog, but he won't.

Sorry to ruffle your feathers bro....Ohio State sucks! LOL just kidding



I know that a lot of stuff will get picked apart, but you didn't do it the right way. You just said, "Oh, he's wrong because his predictions are wrong." You didn't give a reason. Reasonable explanations are also the beauty of these boards. Bold statements about how someone is wrong without giving an explanation is something that you should maybe try to stay away from if you want to get some love from the other posters.

And just because you like Sherk doesn't mean that he is going to beat BJ Penn. LOL you have Sherk ranked as the #1 LW in the world. There are 15 guys that are better in the LW division than Sean Sherk. Maybe more. Sherk will get humiliated by Penn.

And you obviously have no idea about how steroids work, so let me tell you what they do. Most steroids help you heal faster so that you can train longer and harder than before. Some people (Sherk) happen to train longer and harder on cardio. So saying that roids hurt your cardio is an ignorant statement yet again.

And you still haven't given me a reason why Tim Sylvia won't beat Nogueira. I told you my reason why he could. Let's hear yours of why he couldn't. Surely you aren't going solely on name recognition. That doesn't sound like you at all...
StevieC
1/11/08 11:51:58AM

Posted by ohiostate1016


Posted by StevieC


Posted by ohiostate1016


Posted by StevieC

They need to find another guy to write MMA for the Sporting News.

First, Brock is already fighting someone in the Top Ten (For the UFC) at HW.

GSP, if he beats Serra, will fight Fitch, if he beats Gono.

Penn won't beat Sherk.

Sylvia won't beat Nog.

I like that he has Hendo beating Silva but if that happens Hendersons next fight will probably be against Silva again.

If Henderson stays MW, Silva and Hendo will be 1/2 for a while.

And yes it would be sweet to get Gomi and Lindland, and......Sakuri, Fihlo, Melendez, Aoki, Ishida, Rothwell, Lawler, Trigg, Misaki, Akiyama, Shields, Condit, JC, and ofcourse Fedor.

There is more on the mind but Dana White will be busy with these guys I'm sure.



Just because you don't agree with him doesn't mean he's wrong. First of all, Mir is not a top ten HW (who cares if he's top ten in the UFC?). Penn could very well beat Sherk, especially if Sherk isn't on roids anymore. And I could also see Sylvia beating Nog. Nog struggled with a guy like Herring that could strike, and Big Tim is just a bigger and taller version of Herring. But what I'm saying is don't discount something that you don't automatically agree with.




That's the beauty of these boards bro, if you don't want it to get picked apart then don't post it. And I know Mir isn't top ten, I said he was top ten in the UFC, I mentioned that because Lesnar is only going to fight UFC guys....

I know Penn could beat Sherk, but he won't.

I know Sylvia could beat Nog, but he won't.

Sorry to ruffle your feathers bro....Ohio State sucks! LOL just kidding



I know that a lot of stuff will get picked apart, but you didn't do it the right way. You just said, "Oh, he's wrong because his predictions are wrong." You didn't give a reason. Reasonable explanations are also the beauty of these boards. Bold statements about how someone is wrong without giving an explanation is something that you should maybe try to stay away from if you want to get some love from the other posters.

And just because you like Sherk doesn't mean that he is going to beat BJ Penn. LOL you have Sherk ranked as the #1 LW in the world. There are 15 guys that are better in the LW division than Sean Sherk. Maybe more. Sherk will get humiliated by Penn.

And you obviously have no idea about how steroids work, so let me tell you what they do. Most steroids help you heal faster so that you can train longer and harder than before. Some people (Sherk) happen to train longer and harder on cardio. So saying that roids hurt your cardio is an ignorant statement yet again.

And you still haven't given me a reason why Tim Sylvia won't beat Nogueira. I told you my reason why he could. Let's hear yours of why he couldn't. Surely you aren't going solely on name recognition. That doesn't sound like you at all...




Another thing about these boards is that guys talk bigger than they are.......way to be a dink.

I have explained my Sherk stuff too much and honestly tired of explaining it. I see Nog taking Sylvia down and once he is on the ground it is over for Svlvia. Nog won't win the standup that is why he is taking it to the ground. I have watched the UFC more than any other fighter event so if I was basing it off of name rec I would be picking Sylvia. But I'm not.

And to say there are 15 guys better than Sherk is dumb and BJ nut hugging. I have Sherk at number 1 LW because until a LW beats him why put someone ahead of him? I think UFC is the best of the best and until others fighters step up and join the UFC I am not going to put them ahead of the UFC champ. I don't dislike Penn by any means and if he beats Sherk he will be number one. Did you notice I have Penn number 2? Don't get me wrong I like Gomi, Sakuri, Melendez and Ishida but again, fight in the UFC. That is where your really going to get noticed(although I do watch every event I can).

It's like Fedor fighting Hoi Mang Choi? I mean what? It's dumb and fans don't want to see Fedor just dominate. They want to see him fight Randy, and Barnett etc.

Anyway's, you are right in the fact that I shouldn't of jumped on the guys article, I just seem to dislike the ones you post for some reason, I think the last one I saw you post was a guys ranking Jardine #2 LHW.

Anyways, I guess all the talk between Sherk/Penn is all for not if Penn doesn't get by Stevenson.

Then when/if they fight...I guess we will see who is right, which by looking at your rankings is normally me....
ohiostate1016
1/11/08 5:23:45PM
Stevie-You honestly think that the only good fighters in the world are in the UFC? Oh, I'm sorry..the "top fighters in the world are int the UFC." You called me a BJ Penn nuthugger, but you are obviously a UFC nuthugger.

I took a gander at your predictions and here is what I found:

-Out of 70 fighters that you ranked, only 13 are non-UFC fighters.
-You have Brock Lesnar, a man with one pro MMA fight, ranked as your #10 HW
-You have Sean Sherk, a man that cheated and got caught, ranked as your #6 P4P fighter and your #1 LW (LMAO!...he's not even top 15. Do you want a list of fighters that would beat him if they fought today?)
-None of your 10 favorite fighters fight out of the UFC, which leads me to believe that you don't watch any org other than the UFC.
-You talked about someone having Keith Jardine ranked as the #2 LHW, but you have Lyoto Machida ranked as your #2. Now I don't think that there is a clear cut #2, but you are the one that mentioned it, so you are the one that is going to get embarrassed here.

Seriously though, watch something other than the UFC. This is MMA Playground, not UFC Playground. Trust me, there is a difference.

And you are also a very ignorant fan if you think that some of these fighters want to be in the UFC. The only reason that the UFC is the top organization in the world is because Pride no longer exists. But you've probably never heard of that organization, have you? It's the one where there are all of these Japanese guys and they put on bigger and better shows than the UFC. Too bad it's no longer around for people like you to ignore.
StevieC
1/11/08 7:40:16PM

Posted by ohiostate1016

Stevie-You honestly think that the only good fighters in the world are in the UFC? Oh, I'm sorry..the "top fighters in the world are int the UFC." You called me a BJ Penn nuthugger, but you are obviously a UFC nuthugger.

I took a gander at your predictions and here is what I found:

-Out of 70 fighters that you ranked, only 13 are non-UFC fighters.
-You have Brock Lesnar, a man with one pro MMA fight, ranked as your #10 HW
-You have Sean Sherk, a man that cheated and got caught, ranked as your #6 P4P fighter and your #1 LW (LMAO!...he's not even top 15. Do you want a list of fighters that would beat him if they fought today?)
-None of your 10 favorite fighters fight out of the UFC, which leads me to believe that you don't watch any org other than the UFC.
-You talked about someone having Keith Jardine ranked as the #2 LHW, but you have Lyoto Machida ranked as your #2. Now I don't think that there is a clear cut #2, but you are the one that mentioned it, so you are the one that is going to get embarrassed here.

Seriously though, watch something other than the UFC. This is MMA Playground, not UFC Playground. Trust me, there is a difference.

And you are also a very ignorant fan if you think that some of these fighters want to be in the UFC. The only reason that the UFC is the top organization in the world is because Pride no longer exists. But you've probably never heard of that organization, have you? It's the one where there are all of these Japanese guys and they put on bigger and better shows than the UFC. Too bad it's no longer around for people like you to ignore.




What is your deal? You have issues to take everything so personal bro.

Anywho, true I didn't watch Pride as much as UFC but I didn't want to purchase two PPV's in a month most of the time. I did watch a lot of Pride fights on Youtube and such afterword....

I like Sherk, that's why I have him ranked in everything I have. I don't believe someone who passes a lie detector test saying he didn't knowingly take steriods is considered a cheater(I know I am in the minority in that).

Sherk lost to GSP and Hughes two of the best WW ever, so there is no way you could give me a list of guys who could beat him hands down, just not going to happen....

Lesnar. LOL, ya. I didn't think anyone derserved the 10th spot so I had fun with it and put Lesnar...Glad you had a laugh..I thought it was funny to when I put it!

I don't think other fighters were not good enough, I just wasn't going to rank a good majority of the fighters who didn't fight in the UFC because that is the main attraction. I am not one of those "what if" and "dream matchup" guys. If guys want to fight the best(which you have to agree we have the best LHW, MW, WW and possibly LW, Sherk or Penn) then they have to be in the best organization in my opinion. Which is clearly the UFC. And the UFC was better than Pride the last two years of Prides exsitance.

Give me one guy(besides Rampage) who is fighting better than Machida right now in LHW? Didn't think so......

Sorry my favorite fighters are in the UFC....just guys I like I guess....didn't know it bugged you...

Your the ignorant one who thinks I don't know much just because I have strong opinions about certain things....

Just for your information though, the last two years I have watched every MMA out there, even tomorrows on the internet. Before that though it was mainly UFC. I wasn't a huge fan of Pride because I thought soccer kicks and stomps were a really bad way to win.

You just got your panties in a bunch because Ohio State got rocked by LSU aren't you? Man that sucks....

Keep it coming though, this is fun!

StevieC
1/11/08 7:45:42PM
O ya, if this site wasn't majority UFC then why are all other Org's called Secondary League?

Hmm, interesting....
Titosux
1/11/08 7:51:21PM
Holy Cow!

Sorry Ohio State but your the one who sounds like the Moron here, who cares what Stevie C likes, it's sounds like your arguing for nothing.

Plus, once Sherk beats Penn your going to feel pretty stupid....When Nog beats Sylvia too.
ohiostate1016
1/11/08 8:44:20PM

Posted by StevieC

What is your deal? You have issues to take everything so personal bro.

Anywho, true I didn't watch Pride as much as UFC but I didn't want to purchase two PPV's in a month most of the time. I did watch a lot of Pride fights on Youtube and such afterword....

I like Sherk, that's why I have him ranked in everything I have. I don't believe someone who passes a lie detector test saying he didn't knowingly take steriods is considered a cheater(I know I am in the minority in that).

Sherk lost to GSP and Hughes two of the best WW ever, so there is no way you could give me a list of guys who could beat him hands down, just not going to happen....

Lesnar. LOL, ya. I didn't think anyone derserved the 10th spot so I had fun with it and put Lesnar...Glad you had a laugh..I thought it was funny to when I put it!

I don't think other fighters were not good enough, I just wasn't going to rank a good majority of the fighters who didn't fight in the UFC because that is the main attraction. I am not one of those "what if" and "dream matchup" guys. If guys want to fight the best(which you have to agree we have the best LHW, MW, WW and possibly LW, Sherk or Penn) then they have to be in the best organization in my opinion. Which is clearly the UFC. And the UFC was better than Pride the last two years of Prides exsitance.

Give me one guy(besides Rampage) who is fighting better than Machida right now in LHW? Didn't think so......

Sorry my favorite fighters are in the UFC....just guys I like I guess....didn't know it bugged you...

Your the ignorant one who thinks I don't know much just because I have strong opinions about certain things....

Just for your information though, the last two years I have watched every MMA out there, even tomorrows on the internet. Before that though it was mainly UFC. I wasn't a huge fan of Pride because I thought soccer kicks and stomps were a really bad way to win.

You just got your panties in a bunch because Ohio State got rocked by LSU aren't you? Man that sucks....

Keep it coming though, this is fun!




You almost had my respect, but then I read the second half of your post. I wasn't trying to make this a back and forth attack of the other poster. I started out by trying to tell you that just because you don't agree with something it doesn't mean it's wrong. Then you are the one that got defensive about Sherk and about your UFC nut hugging and about how you have the right to only like the UFC or whatever that crap is.

You want the list of guys that could beat Sherk?
-BJ Penn
-Joe Stevenson
-Takanori Gomi
-Mach Sakurai
-Gilbert Melendez
-JZ Calcanvante
-Tatsuya Kawajiri
-Frank Edgar
-Spencer Fisher
-Kenny Florian (I would argue to the death that KenFlo would win a rematch)
-Urijah Faber
-Kid Yamamoto
-Matt Serra (could make 155)
-Mitsuhiro Ishida
-Nick Diaz

That's 15, and I'd even be willing to bet that Sherk would lose to Roger Huerta too.

And the fact that you put Lesnar in there at number 10 as a joke sums up your entire rankings. That's exactly what they are: a joke.

Hotter LHW's than Machida (who is a very boring fighter, by the way, and would lose to most of the top LHW's):
-Chuck Liddell
-Forrest Griffin
-Keith Jardine

That's, uh, THREE!

You obviously do have strong opinions on certain things. But let me ask you this: if you had a son (I have no idea if you do), how would you feel if he took steroids? The fact that Sherk passed a lie detector test by saying that he didn't knowingly take steroids doesn't mean jack to me. The fact remains that the substance was found in his body, and he is ultimately responsible for what enters his body. Plain and simple. I feel that any athlete that tests positive for steroids should be immediately banned for lifetime from their sport. If that happens once, then we would never talk about steroids again. It's just not worth it.

And the shot about OSU was uncalled for. Hell yeah I'm pissed about what happened in the game. But guess what? I can separate sports from my real life. Which is more than I can say for some people. I dealt with the loss and I'm now over it. Hey, it's just football. But I can say one thing for myself. I'm such a true fan, that I can stick by my team no matter what. I'm what they call "tried and true."

And as far as keeping things coming, I haven't heard an intelligent response from you so far, so unless you can give me one, I think that I'll refrain from responding. Basically, I'm pretty sure that I am going to be doing the latter. The pressure is on....
ohiostate1016
1/11/08 8:47:13PM

Posted by Titosux

Holy Cow!

Sorry Ohio State but your the one who sounds like the Moron here, who cares what Stevie C likes, it's sounds like your arguing for nothing.

Plus, once Sherk beats Penn your going to feel pretty stupid....When Nog beats Sylvia too.



What a coincidence! A guy with a Sean Sherk avatar agrees with the Sherk nut hugger! Color me surprised!
StevieC
1/11/08 10:05:05PM

Posted by ohiostate1016


Posted by StevieC

What is your deal? You have issues to take everything so personal bro.

Anywho, true I didn't watch Pride as much as UFC but I didn't want to purchase two PPV's in a month most of the time. I did watch a lot of Pride fights on Youtube and such afterword....

I like Sherk, that's why I have him ranked in everything I have. I don't believe someone who passes a lie detector test saying he didn't knowingly take steriods is considered a cheater(I know I am in the minority in that).

Sherk lost to GSP and Hughes two of the best WW ever, so there is no way you could give me a list of guys who could beat him hands down, just not going to happen....

Lesnar. LOL, ya. I didn't think anyone derserved the 10th spot so I had fun with it and put Lesnar...Glad you had a laugh..I thought it was funny to when I put it!

I don't think other fighters were not good enough, I just wasn't going to rank a good majority of the fighters who didn't fight in the UFC because that is the main attraction. I am not one of those "what if" and "dream matchup" guys. If guys want to fight the best(which you have to agree we have the best LHW, MW, WW and possibly LW, Sherk or Penn) then they have to be in the best organization in my opinion. Which is clearly the UFC. And the UFC was better than Pride the last two years of Prides exsitance.

Give me one guy(besides Rampage) who is fighting better than Machida right now in LHW? Didn't think so......

Sorry my favorite fighters are in the UFC....just guys I like I guess....didn't know it bugged you...

Your the ignorant one who thinks I don't know much just because I have strong opinions about certain things....

Just for your information though, the last two years I have watched every MMA out there, even tomorrows on the internet. Before that though it was mainly UFC. I wasn't a huge fan of Pride because I thought soccer kicks and stomps were a really bad way to win.

You just got your panties in a bunch because Ohio State got rocked by LSU aren't you? Man that sucks....

Keep it coming though, this is fun!




You almost had my respect, but then I read the second half of your post. I wasn't trying to make this a back and forth attack of the other poster. I started out by trying to tell you that just because you don't agree with something it doesn't mean it's wrong. Then you are the one that got defensive about Sherk and about your UFC nut hugging and about how you have the right to only like the UFC or whatever that crap is.

You want the list of guys that could beat Sherk?
-BJ Penn
-Joe Stevenson
-Takanori Gomi
-Mach Sakurai
-Gilbert Melendez
-JZ Calcanvante
-Tatsuya Kawajiri
-Frank Edgar
-Spencer Fisher
-Kenny Florian (I would argue to the death that KenFlo would win a rematch)
-Urijah Faber
-Kid Yamamoto
-Matt Serra (could make 155)
-Mitsuhiro Ishida
-Nick Diaz

That's 15, and I'd even be willing to bet that Sherk would lose to Roger Huerta too.

And the fact that you put Lesnar in there at number 10 as a joke sums up your entire rankings. That's exactly what they are: a joke.

Hotter LHW's than Machida (who is a very boring fighter, by the way, and would lose to most of the top LHW's):
-Chuck Liddell
-Forrest Griffin
-Keith Jardine

That's, uh, THREE!

You obviously do have strong opinions on certain things. But let me ask you this: if you had a son (I have no idea if you do), how would you feel if he took steroids? The fact that Sherk passed a lie detector test by saying that he didn't knowingly take steroids doesn't mean jack to me. The fact remains that the substance was found in his body, and he is ultimately responsible for what enters his body. Plain and simple. I feel that any athlete that tests positive for steroids should be immediately banned for lifetime from their sport. If that happens once, then we would never talk about steroids again. It's just not worth it.

And the shot about OSU was uncalled for. Hell yeah I'm pissed about what happened in the game. But guess what? I can separate sports from my real life. Which is more than I can say for some people. I dealt with the loss and I'm now over it. Hey, it's just football. But I can say one thing for myself. I'm such a true fan, that I can stick by my team no matter what. I'm what they call "tried and true."

And as far as keeping things coming, I haven't heard an intelligent response from you so far, so unless you can give me one, I think that I'll refrain from responding. Basically, I'm pretty sure that I am going to be doing the latter. The pressure is on....




LOL! Pressure? Your list was ridiculas.....(not all the fighters but the majority)

Machida/Soku was boring? (Maybe Liddell, because that fight was sweet vs Wandi, but not Jardine or Forrest, Machida would beat them both)

Honestly though nothing said I have taken personally, I have been laughing through it all....Your the one that seems to be upset and hateing on me.

It's alright though, until these fighters fight there is really nothing to back it up with. But I will say again with the Pride/UFC thing, that only Rampage, Silva and Nog(one fight) have done anything since coming over from Pride......Everyone else has lost....

Have a good night.

O ya, I can't give you too much crap about O,S.....I live in Gopher country..and they stink...just blowin up your skirt....
Titosux
1/11/08 10:08:28PM

Posted by ohiostate1016


Posted by Titosux

Holy Cow!

Sorry Ohio State but your the one who sounds like the Moron here, who cares what Stevie C likes, it's sounds like your arguing for nothing.

Plus, once Sherk beats Penn your going to feel pretty stupid....When Nog beats Sylvia too.



What a coincidence! A guy with a Sean Sherk avatar agrees with the Sherk nut hugger! Color me surprised!



Still doesn't hide the fact that your a moron...

That list of guys that can beat Sherk, please tell me how everyone of those guys would win....

Why do you think Sherk is a bad fighter? Do you know his record? Are you just mad cause he had steriods in his system or have you never liked him? Just because he is a wrestler doesn't mean he is boring. You have Frakie Edgar in your list and he is a wrestler. There are other names but the fact that you have Spencer Fisher in literally made me roll on the floor laughing!
StevieC
1/12/08 3:10:39PM

Posted by ohiostate1016

Stevie-You honestly think that the only good fighters in the world are in the UFC? Oh, I'm sorry..the "top fighters in the world are int the UFC." You called me a BJ Penn nuthugger, but you are obviously a UFC nuthugger.

I took a gander at your predictions and here is what I found:

-Out of 70 fighters that you ranked, only 13 are non-UFC fighters.



14 actually are non-UFC fighters in my rankings but it's funny you say that cause you only have 16.....Does that make you a UFC nuthugger? I agree I am but there is really nothng else to compete with the UFC so, I don't see your point there....
ohiostate1016
1/13/08 12:14:40PM

Posted by StevieC


Posted by ohiostate1016

Stevie-You honestly think that the only good fighters in the world are in the UFC? Oh, I'm sorry..the "top fighters in the world are int the UFC." You called me a BJ Penn nuthugger, but you are obviously a UFC nuthugger.

I took a gander at your predictions and here is what I found:

-Out of 70 fighters that you ranked, only 13 are non-UFC fighters.



14 actually are non-UFC fighters in my rankings but it's funny you say that cause you only have 16.....Does that make you a UFC nuthugger? I agree I am but there is really nothng else to compete with the UFC so, I don't see your point there....



Actually, I have 21 non-UFC fighters ranked (including if you add Faves and it counts twice if you have them ranked in P4P). You are a UFC nuthugger, but you don't even know the fighters that are in the UFC.

And I'd put money that any of those guys would beat Sherk. And just so you know, I've never been a fan of him. But once it was found out that he was a cheater on top of that, he immediately became my least favorite fighter. It's him and then Mike Kyle.
paddy260
1/13/08 2:14:16PM
i agrre with everything that ohiostate said exept about the whole sean sherk thing people make mistakes, even if he meant to take them i can bet my life that he will never do it again

StevieC
1/13/08 8:11:26PM

Posted by ohiostate1016


Posted by StevieC


Posted by ohiostate1016

Stevie-You honestly think that the only good fighters in the world are in the UFC? Oh, I'm sorry..the "top fighters in the world are int the UFC." You called me a BJ Penn nuthugger, but you are obviously a UFC nuthugger.

I took a gander at your predictions and here is what I found:

-Out of 70 fighters that you ranked, only 13 are non-UFC fighters.



14 actually are non-UFC fighters in my rankings but it's funny you say that cause you only have 16.....Does that make you a UFC nuthugger? I agree I am but there is really nothng else to compete with the UFC so, I don't see your point there....



Actually, I have 21 non-UFC fighters ranked (including if you add Faves and it counts twice if you have them ranked in P4P). You are a UFC nuthugger, but you don't even know the fighters that are in the UFC.

And I'd put money that any of those guys would beat Sherk. And just so you know, I've never been a fan of him. But once it was found out that he was a cheater on top of that, he immediately became my least favorite fighter. It's him and then Mike Kyle.



O sorry, I didn't count P4P and Favorites, didn't want to count the same guy twice....

Plus I already told you I am a UFC nuthugger I have been watching it since UFC 3, but who else really competes now? Yet I don't know where you get that I don't know the fighters.....You have Forrest Griffin ranked number #2 LHW?? So you really can't say jack about me puting Machida there....not that I don't like Forrest but just because he beat Shogun doesn't mean he is better. Just means he was better that day. I would be shocked if he goes the distance with Rampage, pumped, but shocked.

Anywho, I could care less that your a fan of Sherks. Like I said before it's tough to say who would win until they(your 15) fight, if they fight. I guess time will tell. And Kenflo did nothing against Sherk except for cut him open. I know why you like Kenflo though, #2 in your fav's. So your bias too.

Anywho I hope you can drop your beef, for whatever reason it feels like you have one, maybe because deep down you know I am right!

Because it's all a matter of opinion until these people actually fight. Nog/Sylvia and Sherk vs. the World(although he already spanked Kenflo). And my rankings are also imperfect and I am sure swayed by bias thoughts, just like yours, so to criticize me based on my rankings of not knowing fighters is dumb. It's all personal opinion baby just like my first post about your link...So you gotta learn to live with it, not everyone is going to agree with you!

Have a good one, O and your wrong about everything!
Titosux
1/13/08 8:27:25PM

Posted by ohiostate1016


Posted by StevieC


Posted by ohiostate1016

Stevie-You honestly think that the only good fighters in the world are in the UFC? Oh, I'm sorry..the "top fighters in the world are int the UFC." You called me a BJ Penn nuthugger, but you are obviously a UFC nuthugger.

I took a gander at your predictions and here is what I found:

-Out of 70 fighters that you ranked, only 13 are non-UFC fighters.



14 actually are non-UFC fighters in my rankings but it's funny you say that cause you only have 16.....Does that make you a UFC nuthugger? I agree I am but there is really nothng else to compete with the UFC so, I don't see your point there....



Actually, I have 21 non-UFC fighters ranked (including if you add Faves and it counts twice if you have them ranked in P4P). You are a UFC nuthugger, but you don't even know the fighters that are in the UFC.

And I'd put money that any of those guys would beat Sherk. And just so you know, I've never been a fan of him. But once it was found out that he was a cheater on top of that, he immediately became my least favorite fighter. It's him and then Mike Kyle.




Dude how could you ever put Kyle and Sherk in the same boat? You talk like Sherk is the only guy who has ever had some kind of substance in his system....That last sentence alone really tells me how much of a moron you really are, before I was just messin around......
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