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komodo20
7/3/07 7:15:32PM
Could any MMA fighter last one round against Mike Tyson in his prime?
Rush
7/3/07 7:36:51PM

Posted by komodo20

Could any MMA fighter last one round against Mike Tyson in his prime?




I think the question should be

Could Mike Tyson in his prime last one round with any MMA fighter?

My answer would be that I think at least 90% of current fighters in the UFC would destroy Tyson (in his prime) in one round, given MMA rules of course
danny81
7/3/07 7:38:43PM
i definetly disagree tyson in his prime was also a street fighter. most people forget that he has been in jail and he is not only a boxer. he new 52s and he probably new some sort of ground game which he learned in prison. he would beat most MMA fighters
DJDark41
7/3/07 7:51:23PM
Mike Tyson < Any MMA fighter. Mike Tyson would just stand and play "who throws the sloppiest punch," get taken down and have an arm or leg broken, or get choked out. Mike Tyson is just a boxer, and not even really a good one. Sure, he won alot, but half the reason he won was because people were scared of him. Stick prime Mike Tyson in a cage with someone like CroCop, Big Nog, Randy Couture, Matt Hughes, or Tito Ortiz, and he would get wrecked.
loller90278
7/3/07 9:05:02PM
thats not true, tysons been practicing kickboxing for a number of years now
ButterBalls
7/3/07 9:48:49PM
LOL at all the uneducated postings...

Tyson, in his prime, knocked dudes out in under a minute with 1-2 punches with 16oz gloves. Good luck taking him down when literally all he needs is one.
Rush
7/3/07 11:37:31PM

Posted by ButterBalls

LOL at all the uneducated postings...

Tyson, in his prime, knocked dudes out in under a minute with 1-2 punches with 16oz gloves. Good luck taking him down when literally all he needs is one.



Uneducated? lol

Tyson knocked out other boxers with no thought in his mind that a guy could/would shoot in for a double leg.

Also, forgive me for be suspicious of any boxing match that is over in under one minute.
ko-kbo130
7/3/07 11:47:46PM
if foghters like cotuire, and ortiz cant beat lidell what the hell makes you think theyd be able to beat tyson in his prime. tyson is a much better stand up fighter than lidell and wrestlers have trouble with lidell. tyson would just destroy them.
EEKS
7/4/07 1:40:04AM
no.................................... in boxing
Fanboy 1988
7/4/07 1:45:39AM

Posted by ButterBalls

LOL at all the uneducated postings...

Tyson, in his prime, knocked dudes out in under a minute with 1-2 punches with 16oz gloves. Good luck taking him down when literally all he needs is one.



danny81
7/4/07 2:18:03AM
tyson is better at striking then lidell. tyson nows 52 blocks which trains you to use hands knees and elbows. its clear he is a better puncher. most likely a better elbow and knee guy and lidell has better kicks. tyson is a better overallstriker. BTW you know how hard you will have to hit tyson to knock him out? and if they try and take him down they wil get a good knee to the face. 52s was created in retaliation to the latins GnP technique type fighting so 52s are experts at avoiding take downs. another great boxer that would do good in MMA is rocky marciano not only because he is GREAT at striking but he is also an amazing wrestler
ButterBalls
7/4/07 3:13:10AM

Posted by Rush


Posted by ButterBalls

LOL at all the uneducated postings...

Tyson, in his prime, knocked dudes out in under a minute with 1-2 punches with 16oz gloves. Good luck taking him down when literally all he needs is one.



Uneducated? lol

Tyson knocked out other boxers with no thought in his mind that a guy could/would shoot in for a double leg.

Also, forgive me for be suspicious of any boxing match that is over in under one minute.



correct, he knocked out other boxers, who train their entire lives for getting hit in the head for 12 rounds, with 16oz gloves, in less than a minute.

I think his fastest knockout was in the Olympics actually...yeah, that was rigged
KomodoBJJ
7/4/07 6:47:40AM
Tyson use too have this raw ability that was amazing. But in ufc tyson wouldnt stand a chance against the guys now. How many times do you see a boxing match go too the clinch before some one gets knocked down? (Have you seen the evander holyfield fights) If any mma fighter clinched with tyson they can then get the tackdown and be home free because tyson wouldnt know much on the ground. This is what seperates boxers from mma fighters
FeelTheJoy
7/4/07 7:00:55AM
im pretty sure you dont learn ground game in jail. you prob learn how to smuggle drugs and write secret letters and learn how to shank people with dried poo. not learn how to fight. have you seen videos of jail fights? they look horrible like school fight. dudes flailing their arms with their head down hoping to hit the other guy. o and then their is the over sized shirt that gets riped and pulld of the head and the guy has the shirt in one hand and hitting the guy with the other while the dude getting his oversized shirt pulled is saying stop ****** i cant see. pretty descriptive but trying to get you a good image of what im talking about. just type in fight on youtube. youll see what im talkn about
Rush
7/4/07 11:29:23AM

Posted by ButterBalls
correct, he knocked out other boxers, who train their entire lives for getting hit in the head for 12 rounds, with 16oz gloves, in less than a minute.

I think his fastest knockout was in the Olympics actually...yeah, that was rigged




Exactly, other boxers that trained to throw punches with him. I am in no way saying that a boxer can't hit, let alone Tyson, but the guy never trained to defend/expect a take-down. The way Tyson usually came out in his fights, I could see him being very susceptible to a take-down. I'm sure Tyson's punching power would be severely diminished on the ground.

Just look at the Mercer vs. Kimbo. Look at how easy Kimbo took Mercer down and Kimbo is not even that talented of a grappler.

I've talked to a few boxers, of whom are very interested in MMA, but they don't seem to have any idea about what it's like to strike on the ground.

In addition, considering Tyson's very low level of intelligence, I can't see him preparing for an MMA fight.

With respect to the fastest knockout, I'm not necessarily saying it was rigged, but you have to admit there are/were a lot of title fights that ended awfully fast. That coupled with the amount of money involved for both winner and loser, you'll have to forgive me for being cynical.
MMA_Needs_Mayhem
7/4/07 2:26:02PM
I think people are thinking of the flashy Tyson, look at when he used to train with Cus D'Amato and look at the training videos. His body was in peak physical shape and no one punched or moved like Tyson. For those who say Tyson was just a power puncher, are truly 'uneducated' seems like a lot of people like to throw that word around. He was agile, he had amazing footwork and would throw punches with intent to hurt. Tyson at his prime would be a force to reckon with, although Fedor did get dropped on his head...hmmm did Tyson ever get dropped on his head?
nubby
7/4/07 2:33:26PM

Posted by MMA_Needs_Mayhem

I think people are thinking of the flashy Tyson, look at when he used to train with Cus D'Amato and look at the training videos. His body was in peak physical shape and no one punched or moved like Tyson. For those who say Tyson was just a power puncher, are truly 'uneducated' seems like a lot of people like to throw that word around. He was agile, he had amazing footwork and would throw punches with intent to hurt. Tyson at his prime would be a force to reckon with, although Fedor did get dropped on his head...hmmm did Tyson ever get dropped on his head?



I think if we are talking pure mma of course Tyson would get his ass handed to him unless he was briefly trained on how to sprawl. if he could sprawl he would have been far more devistating than even Liddell. His punches were amazingly powerful quick and accurate. He threw combinations that made grown men cry. People called him an animal but he was definitely a technically awesome boxer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvZ2roRDPYU
rcg916
7/4/07 2:51:16PM

Posted by DJDark41

Mike Tyson < Any MMA fighter. Mike Tyson would just stand and play "who throws the sloppiest punch," get taken down and have an arm or leg broken, or get choked out. Mike Tyson is just a boxer, and not even really a good one. Sure, he won alot, but half the reason he won was because people were scared of him. Stick prime Mike Tyson in a cage with someone like CroCop, Big Nog, Randy Couture, Matt Hughes, or Tito Ortiz, and he would get wrecked.



WOW. Im giving you the benefit of the doubt, and hoping that you are a youngster. That way, you wouldnt have seen Tyson fight in his prime, and I could forgive the comments you made. But...

"Mike Tyson would just stand and play "who throws the sloppiest punch," ... Mike Tyson is just a boxer, and not even really a good one. Sure, he won alot, but half the reason he won was because people were scared of him. "

This is just an untrue statement. Sloppy punches? Maybe now, but in his prime, Tyson=Fedor of boxing. They were scared because he was killing everyone. He lost when he lost his training edge and got lazy.

Mike Tyson is just a boxer, and not a very good one??
Tyson is arguably the most dominant boxer of all time. This statement is also untrue, regardless of anyone's personal opinion. Even if you dont think hes the best, he's in everyones top 5.

Im not saying that he couldve beaten a top MMA fighter, but to say he had no chance is just... well, untrue. It was already said best before me in this thread, he really only needed one punch to land, and goodnight.
Mastodon2
7/4/07 6:37:28PM

Posted by DJDark41

Mike Tyson < Any MMA fighter. Mike Tyson would just stand and play "who throws the sloppiest punch," get taken down and have an arm or leg broken, or get choked out. Mike Tyson is just a boxer, and not even really a good one. Sure, he won alot, but half the reason he won was because people were scared of him. Stick prime Mike Tyson in a cage with someone like CroCop, Big Nog, Randy Couture, Matt Hughes, or Tito Ortiz, and he would get wrecked.



Are you serious? Tyson is one of the most talented boxers ever, his power, even with 16oz gloves, was immense. People were scared of him? Sure, there was an aura, but he fought with some immense power that made it hard for him to be controlled. And to say his punching is sloppy is just wrong, look at his KO's; he didnt just try to wilt people under a hail of blows, he sniped people with 2 or 3 well places shots that opened their guard, then used a big bomb to put them down. Im sure he wouldnt fare well against an MMA fighter of his weight, but if he hit them even once as they shot in for that takedown, with 40z gloves, he would KO them without a doubt.

Get a clue about Tyson before you talk trash about him.
jdubs
7/4/07 7:06:29PM
tyson would ko many good mma fighters as would other great boxers, it all depends on the style their as matched up against. if it is a stand up guy i think tyson would win almost every time, if he got taken down then he is screwed
cmill21
7/4/07 7:26:34PM
Not one person could take a tyson punch with 4oz gloves. A fighter(other then Hunt) would get KO'd first shot. Tyson was rediculously strong.
ncordless
7/4/07 8:08:11PM
Tyson ran through boxing at a time that it was weaker than it is now.

Tyson got wtfpwned every time he fought a boxer of high quality.

Seriously, what was his greatest win? Michael Spinx?

Tyson would lose to any Heavyweight with an understanding of the ground. In addition, putting your head down and charging in (like Tyson so loved to do) might make him kinda vulnerable to the ole' Tai clinch.

List of fighters that could beat Tyson in his prime:
Fedor
Big Nog
Barnett
Couture
Gonzaga
Vera
Randleman
Coleman
Overheem
Werdum
Alexandre

FeelTheJoy
7/4/07 11:00:38PM
and tyson is a reall y horrible perverted person. i watched a video on the worst of tyson and wow. he was talking abut how he loved to fornicate with tons of woman. and he wouldnt do an interview with a lady without her having sex with him. and he likes to eat babys. its off topic but needs to be told
danny81
7/4/07 11:09:00PM
feel the joy have you ever actuallly been in PRISON not JAIL. big difference. anyway i have freinds who have and they tell me stories about the fighting styles. basicallly what i have learned are that the black gangs work primarily on striking and invented 52 blocks and the spanish gangs invented a sort of GnP type of fighitng style and they practice it out in the yard.
FeelTheJoy
7/5/07 1:35:08AM
no i havent been to jail or prison. im not a criminal. meant prison. and if what your saying is true i highly doubt it is affective. and it was prob just in that one prison. iv watchd alot of prison fights on the computer and they all are just guys flailing their arms around.
Mastodon2
7/5/07 7:26:58AM

Posted by FeelTheJoy

and tyson is a reall y horrible perverted person. i watched a video on the worst of tyson and wow. he was talking abut how he loved to fornicate with tons of woman. and he wouldnt do an interview with a lady without her having sex with him. and he likes to eat babys. its off topic but needs to be told



Stop Trolling.
DoTheMMAth
7/5/07 7:33:36AM
Tyson in his prime would beat almost anyone I believe, as long as he could keep from biting them and getting DQ'd. He was just a crazy, angry, disturbed, genetically superior killing machine, and boxing was the only legal way at the time to get paid for it. I'm sure if Mike in his prime spent any time at all training for sprawl/ground-game he would 1-shot KO a good portion of modern MMA practitioners. Someone with near equal strength (a feat unto itself) in his weight class that is a submission-monster would probably own him with easy IF he could avoid getting decapitated on the way in. But yeah... factoring in his agility, speed, raw strength, massive power, and general desire to kill / maim other human beings, Tyson in his prime would be problematic for any current top contender. I'd say prime-Tyson would win 4/5 fights.
danny81
7/5/07 3:33:46PM
alright. Number one 52 blocks it is actaully effective. zab judah, mike tyson, and floyd mayweather jr. all know this style and have used it in an actual boxing match and it actually has worked for them. im not sure how mayweather learned it because he hasnt been to jail but w.e. the spanish gangs have created a sort of anti 52s type style to defeat the 52s which is GnP. if you dont believe it go to your nearest city and go to some criminal and tell him that 52s doesnt exist. he will prove it to you
FeelTheJoy
7/6/07 2:00:54AM
i cant see how EVERY JAIL knows this style of fighting. but. hey i guess its possible to make a fighting style in prison.but ehh.
Mastodon2
7/6/07 7:05:18AM
Convicts often get transferred, repeat offenders often go through several institutues in their lives, so they take the knowledge of these systems with them and pass it on, so the knowledge of these fighting systems spreads. Of course, there are differences from institute to institute, and the systems obviously change somewhat over distance, its like evolution man.
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