Micheal Bisping: "Give me one more chance."

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grappler0000
11/11/07 10:10:46AM
Micheal Bisping recently sat down with Kevin Iole to look back on his behavior after winning one of the most controversial decisions in UFC history. He also sheds new insight into why he acted the way he did during the news conference. Here are some of the highlights of that conversation.

Bisping On Whether He Won The Fight Or Not:

"Even a very good friend of mine, that night, he came up to me and said, 'You know mate, to be honest, I think you lost that fight,' " Bisping said. "Of course I care what people think, especially because I'm not that kind of a guy," Bisping said. "If you read the Internet message boards after that fight, I think I was more hated than Saddam Hussein.

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ohiostate1016
11/11/07 11:26:56AM
I like Bisping. I don't think that he beat Matt Hamill, but I do like him.

As funny or weird as this may sound, it's not his fault that he won that fight. I'm sure that he wanted to win, and thought that he won, but it's not his fault that the judges scored it incorrectly. He didn't go down to the scorers' table and influence them in any way.

I just hope that fans can realize this. I'm pretty sure that Bisping is going to get his first loss against Rashad Evans, but then again, this year has been so unpredictable that he might win. You never know.
tuvok500
11/11/07 11:43:04AM

Posted by ohiostate1016

I like Bisping. I don't think that he beat Matt Hamill, but I do like him.

As funny or weird as this may sound, it's not his fault that he won that fight. I'm sure that he wanted to win, and thought that he won, but it's not his fault that the judges scored it incorrectly. He didn't go down to the scorers' table and influence them in any way.

I just hope that fans can realize this. I'm pretty sure that Bisping is going to get his first loss against Rashad Evans, but then again, this year has been so unpredictable that he might win. You never know.



it is not his fault but i think the hate for him came from his post fight interview in the cage when he was completely disrecpecting Hamill and after that, it is normal to give him the same medecine that he was doing to an opponent who have beated him 30-27 !!

i hope he will be completely destroy against Evans and that he will be force to retire !!

go Evans !!


ohiostate1016
11/11/07 12:08:06PM
Come on, that's rediculous. You can't hope that someone gets hurt. Bisping is a good fighter, and he won't get destroyed by Rashad, but he is going to lose.

I don't care what he said after the fight. There is a lot of emotion in the locker room. You've even seen guys cry after they lose (even after they win). I don't blame him for going off after the fight. And I don't think he lost 30-27. I think he lost 29-28, but it wasn't really that close.
jiujitsufreak74
11/11/07 12:18:05PM

I don't care what he said after the fight. There is a lot of emotion in the locker room. You've even seen guys cry after they lose (even after they win). I don't blame him for going off after the fight. And I don't think he lost 30-27. I think he lost 29-28, but it wasn't really that close.


look, don't say that it was right for him to totally disrespect hamill after he was on the good end of a bad decision. i know there is a lot of emotion in fighting, but to act like you walked through a fighter who, imo, beat you is not justifiable. i know you understnad that bisping didn't wlak through him, but imo you can't condone acting so full of yourself when you didn't even deserve to win.
silverbullet
11/11/07 12:30:25PM
I was sort of disgusted at how Bisping carried himself after that fight, but it's the emotions that got better of him. Nobody's perfect. It's not like Bisping is a president of some big organization and people around the world base their opinions about the organization on his behavior. In that case it would be expected from Bisping to be in control of his emotions at all times. Just like Dana White. Wait, what?..

On the other hand, I think that Bisping is a better and more well-rounded fighter than Matt Hammill, but he was outsized, and lacked aggression, and just screwed up in that fight. You could see the frustration in his face after it was over.
tuvok500
11/11/07 12:32:42PM

Posted by ohiostate1016

Come on, that's rediculous. You can't hope that someone gets hurt. Bisping is a good fighter, and he won't get destroyed by Rashad, but he is going to lose.

I don't care what he said after the fight. There is a lot of emotion in the locker room. You've even seen guys cry after they lose (even after they win). I don't blame him for going off after the fight. And I don't think he lost 30-27. I think he lost 29-28, but it wasn't really that close.



Force to retire in the sence that he will be afraid of coming in the octogon for a while !! LOL

not a whellchair retirement !!!

MeanGreene
11/11/07 12:40:41PM
The Count's post-fight was 2nd only to Phil Baroni's "Im the Man!" IMO!!!
wrona666
11/11/07 1:00:16PM
To give Bisping the excuse that he was full of emotion is bullshit, im sure that Hamill was full of emotion but you didnt see him disrespecting Bisping he congradulated him on the win..........like a true warrior!!!!!!
jae_1833
11/11/07 1:20:20PM
Some guys just can't turn it off as quickly as others you know, I just hope that if he does lose to Rashad that he decides to drop into the MW div where he could be much more competitive. If not Bisping will run into a few guys that will have his number for sure (Wandy, Hendo, Chuck, Houston...ect).
silverbullet
11/11/07 1:46:36PM

Posted by jae_1833

Some guys just can't turn it off as quickly as others you know, I just hope that if he does lose to Rashad that he decides to drop into the MW div where he could be much more competitive. If not Bisping will run into a few guys that will have his number for sure (Wandy, Hendo, Chuck, Houston...ect).



I agree. In my mind Bisping is a better fighter than Rashad but I have him losing this fight simply because Rashad will overpower him, like Hammill did.
Juice
11/11/07 1:52:54PM
you know what guys.. watch the fight again.. hamill was outboxed in round 2 and 3 and when hamill took him down, he did absolutely nothing to him on the ground. bisping 29-28.. let's put it to rest
x_soa_x
11/11/07 7:19:43PM

Posted by Juice

you know what guys.. watch the fight again.. hamill was outboxed in round 2 and 3 and when hamill took him down, he did absolutely nothing to him on the ground. bisping 29-28.. let's put it to rest



In the very same paragraph that you continue the argument...nice bit of hypocrisy there, bud. Next time, don't argue jack shit and just keep it down to "let's put it to rest."
bullettdodger
11/12/07 12:11:40AM

Posted by Juice

you know what guys.. watch the fight again.. hamill was outboxed in round 2 and 3 and when hamill took him down, he did absolutely nothing to him on the ground. bisping 29-28.. let's put it to rest



dumbest, most uninformed opinion I have ever read
atlas777
11/12/07 11:20:07AM
Hammil won the fight hands down it was a good fight i would like to see them fight again but i dont think hammil would have the same chance the second time around just for the fact that bisping now knows he can actually strike hammil had a good game plan coming in and showing he improved his boxing skills greatly and now that bisping knows that hammil wouldnt have the same advantage as he did in the first fight.
Focker101
11/12/07 12:11:12PM
I agree Bisping won

mrsmiley
11/12/07 12:15:30PM
If Bisping wants a second chance,he's gotta start by admitting he lost that fight,imo.
bullettdodger
11/12/07 1:46:57PM

Posted by mrsmiley

If Bisping wants a second chance,he's gotta start by admitting he lost that fight,imo.



props man
Natedogg42
11/12/07 4:09:53PM
I thought Bisping lost as well. I also (as much as it pained me) agreed with Matt Hughes that Ben and Dan should have gone to a third round a couple of weeks ago on the ultimate fighter, that is until I watched it again.

Anyone else remember this fight? Dana White said it was the worst judging he had ever seen. I thought it was clear cut, Dan winning the first and Ben winning the second. On further review I realized they both had knock downs in the first, it's just Dan's stuck out more because he stood over Ben instead of letting him stand back up. I now think Ben won definitively.

Anyway, my point is, because you can't TiVo UFC's, I didn't have the benefit of re-watching the Bisping v. Hamill fight, so I'm not ready to say Bisping got dominated or anything like that. I'm curious if anyone who has been hating on Bisping has actually taken a second look at the fight. If so why don't you break down why you thought Hamill won?

Also, I don't get why everyone is so worried about Hamill getting disrespected. If respect is so important why didn't I see any one hating on Tito for saying he was going to make Evans his "nappy headed ho" or Hughes for making those comments about Canadians. Bisping and Hamill had beef from before and Bisping was probably still pumped up on adrenaline when he made his post fight comments. Also, when's the last time anyone's heard a fighter say he thought he lost when he won on the score card? The only occasion I can think of is when Spencer Fisher said he thought his latest fight against Sam Stout was a draw.

While I still think Hamill won (for now), I just don't understand all the anti-Bisping sentiment.
mrsmiley
11/12/07 5:23:54PM

Posted by Natedogg42

I thought Bisping lost as well. I also (as much as it pained me) agreed with Matt Hughes that Ben and Dan should have gone to a third round a couple of weeks ago on the ultimate fighter, that is until I watched it again.

Anyone else remember this fight? Dana White said it was the worst judging he had ever seen. I thought it was clear cut, Dan winning the first and Ben winning the second. On further review I realized they both had knock downs in the first, it's just Dan's stuck out more because he stood over Ben instead of letting him stand back up. I now think Ben won definitively.

Anyway, my point is, because you can't TiVo UFC's, I didn't have the benefit of re-watching the Bisping v. Hamill fight, so I'm not ready to say Bisping got dominated or anything like that. I'm curious if anyone who has been hating on Bisping has actually taken a second look at the fight. If so why don't you break down why you thought Hamill won?

Also, I don't get why everyone is so worried about Hamill getting disrespected. If respect is so important why didn't I see any one hating on Tito for saying he was going to make Evans his "nappy headed ho" or Hughes for making those comments about Canadians. Bisping and Hamill had beef from before and Bisping was probably still pumped up on adrenaline when he made his post fight comments. Also, when's the last time anyone's heard a fighter say he thought he lost when he won on the score card? The only occasion I can think of is when Spencer Fisher said he thought his latest fight against Sam Stout was a draw.

While I still think Hamill won (for now), I just don't understand all the anti-Bisping sentiment.




"when's the last time anyone's heard a fighter say he thought he lost when he won on the score card?"

That's part of the controversy.Add all three judges scores.

30-27 in favor of Hamill
29-28 Bisping
29-28 bisping

Add those numbers and Hamill still comes out scoring more points.At best,it should have been a draw.

And I think Rampage trying to hand Ninja his trophy prior to final conflict warrents a admitted defeat.
FantasyFighter
11/13/07 10:45:38AM
I have to say, I thought Bisping won the fight originally. After I got online and saw how everyone thought Hamil won, I went back and watched it again on my DVR, which is the same as Tivo, and it allows me to record the UFC PPVs. However, even after watching it again, I still came to the same conclusion. I gave Hamil the first round (and I dont think there is any question there) and Bisping rounds two and three based on the fact that in those rounds, yes, Hamil got some takedowns, but did not do anything when he got there and Bisping certainly outworked the tired Hamil on the feet. Im not saying Bisping did any significant damage either and I thought the fight was EXTREMELY close, but if I had to decide, I gave the nod to Bisping based on the fact that just that he outworked him in those later rounds.

Anyways, all that aside, I think as a professional fighter, it is necessary to buy in to your own hype a little. You need to truly believe you are the best (a la Phil Baroni) even if you can rationalize how it is possible for you to lose. I think it gives you a distinct advantage over your opponent when you have that sort of belief in yourself. Unfornuately that sometimes carries over in an in-opportune moment and Im not saying that is an excuse, because you should always strive to be a professional, Im just saying that given the nature of the sport, I can understand how it happens.
MMAnia07
11/13/07 4:47:14PM
I was actually there and thought Hamil had won originally, when i watched it once i got back from London, i had Bisping winning round 2 barely, and cruising the 3rd. Its always gonna be a bone of contention, but Hamil shouldnt have let it go to the judges if he wanted the win so badly.
Natedogg42
11/13/07 11:58:47PM
"when's the last time anyone's heard a fighter say he thought he lost when he won on the score card?"

That's part of the controversy.Add all three judges scores.

30-27 in favor of Hamill
29-28 Bisping
29-28 bisping

Add those numbers and Hamill still comes out scoring more points.At best,it should have been a draw.

And I think Rampage trying to hand Ninja his trophy prior to final conflict warrents a admitted defeat.


Yeah, but that's not how the scoreing system works. Two out of three thought Bisping won, It dosen't matter how they scored it.

"And I think Rampage trying to hand Ninja his trophy prior to final conflict warrents a admitted defeat." I never saw this, but that sounds like Rampage. My point was just that it is extremly rare.
mrsmiley
11/14/07 8:49:52AM
I get what your saying,but I think the judging system should be changedt.While I still think Hamill won,I would have accepted that while he scored more points,Bisping won the fight in favor of two judges,therefore the fight is a draw.I think this rule could cause it's own contraversy down the road,but I would like to see it played out for awhile to see how it would work.