Posted by Shawn91111
Posted by moob
Posted by Shawn91111
Posted by LightsOUT23
I love the way everyone tools Bisping in his hopes to get a title shot. Chael Sonnen Beat Brian stann and controversially beat Bisping to get his rematch with Silva. Everyone said Bisping was gonna get ko'd by Rivera. Mike won via tko. Everyone said Mayhem would out class Bisping in all areas, didn't happen, Mike won tko. Then came the almighty Chael Sonnen, everyone said Chael would wipe the floor with Bisping, that didn't happen either. In fact in a close fight, Chael even told Bisping that he thought Mike had won the fight. Bisping was the only guy who Chael had fought since chael vs Dan miller who was able to get back to his feet after every take down. That being said, Chael went on to get humiliated by Silva in the much anticipated rematch. Bisping vs Stann, oh no, let me guess, Everyone says Bisping is gonna get ko'd again... Didn't happen once again, Bisping shows his MMA experience to get the job done and beats Brian Stann.
Does Bisping deserve a title shot? Yes, i Believe Bisping can complicate a fight with Silva and make it an interesting match up. Mikes style is complicating and has been proven by the opponents he has faced recently. No one wether you love mike or hate mike can deny that he is so well rounded that he presents problems to any middleweight in that division. Give him his shot and i think once again, you haters will be surprised at how good a fight he gives silva !!!
Who is everyone? Bisping was a 76%-24% favorite on the playground over Rivera, and the betting favorite by a good margin on the vegas betting sites.
Granted Mayhem was the favorite on the playground, but that shows how out of whack the odds on the playground are.
Playground Odds- Miller -105 Real Odds - +186
Playground Odds- Bisping +105 Real Odds - 225
Tell Michael to face someone in the top 5 and he wins he gets his shot, until then he can keep bitching about beating mid level fighters.
So now its top 5? You keep moving the goalposts to suit your agenda.
The picks on here are completely irrelevant to how people feel, as the picks are a game...I think the majority opinion on here is that he is disliked and therefore doesn't afford the same chances others who are more favoured get.
You only have to take a look a number of recent opponents who faced Silva for the title, and its pretty easy to question their 'worthyness' in getting that shot.
What goalposts? Was Stann even a top 10 fighter at all? His best win is Leben. How are the picks not relevant to how people feel? People make picks for any number or reasons, whether they like or despise a fighter or that they actually use their heads when making a pick.
Posted by Shawn91111
What goalposts? Was Stann even a top 10 fighter at all? His best win is Leben. How are the picks not relevant to how people feel? People make picks for any number or reasons, whether they like or despise a fighter or that they actually use their heads when making a pick.
Posted by BigBadAl
Posted by Shawn91111
Posted by moob
Posted by Shawn91111
Posted by LightsOUT23
I love the way everyone tools Bisping in his hopes to get a title shot. Chael Sonnen Beat Brian stann and controversially beat Bisping to get his rematch with Silva. Everyone said Bisping was gonna get ko'd by Rivera. Mike won via tko. Everyone said Mayhem would out class Bisping in all areas, didn't happen, Mike won tko. Then came the almighty Chael Sonnen, everyone said Chael would wipe the floor with Bisping, that didn't happen either. In fact in a close fight, Chael even told Bisping that he thought Mike had won the fight. Bisping was the only guy who Chael had fought since chael vs Dan miller who was able to get back to his feet after every take down. That being said, Chael went on to get humiliated by Silva in the much anticipated rematch. Bisping vs Stann, oh no, let me guess, Everyone says Bisping is gonna get ko'd again... Didn't happen once again, Bisping shows his MMA experience to get the job done and beats Brian Stann.
Does Bisping deserve a title shot? Yes, i Believe Bisping can complicate a fight with Silva and make it an interesting match up. Mikes style is complicating and has been proven by the opponents he has faced recently. No one wether you love mike or hate mike can deny that he is so well rounded that he presents problems to any middleweight in that division. Give him his shot and i think once again, you haters will be surprised at how good a fight he gives silva !!!
Who is everyone? Bisping was a 76%-24% favorite on the playground over Rivera, and the betting favorite by a good margin on the vegas betting sites.
Granted Mayhem was the favorite on the playground, but that shows how out of whack the odds on the playground are.
Playground Odds- Miller -105 Real Odds - +186
Playground Odds- Bisping +105 Real Odds - 225
Tell Michael to face someone in the top 5 and he wins he gets his shot, until then he can keep bitching about beating mid level fighters.
So now its top 5? You keep moving the goalposts to suit your agenda.
The picks on here are completely irrelevant to how people feel, as the picks are a game...I think the majority opinion on here is that he is disliked and therefore doesn't afford the same chances others who are more favoured get.
You only have to take a look a number of recent opponents who faced Silva for the title, and its pretty easy to question their 'worthyness' in getting that shot.
What goalposts? Was Stann even a top 10 fighter at all? His best win is Leben. How are the picks not relevant to how people feel? People make picks for any number or reasons, whether they like or despise a fighter or that they actually use their heads when making a pick.
Sonnen got a title shot for beating Stann and Bisping (only just) and nobody said anything then so....
Posted by moob
Posted by Shawn91111
What goalposts? Was Stann even a top 10 fighter at all? His best win is Leben. How are the picks not relevant to how people feel? People make picks for any number or reasons, whether they like or despise a fighter or that they actually use their heads when making a pick.
Well, you said top 10 fighter on page 1, then changed it to top 5 - that's what I'm talking about.
MMA weekly certainly rates Stann as top ten and I'm sure they're not alone - it was my first hit from Google.
Picks aren't directly related to members opinions because its a game and sometimes you have to ignore your heart and rule with your head.
Bottom line is Bisping won't get balanced opinion certainly not on a US site, where he gets special treatment particularly since the Hamill fight, that's a fact.
Posted by moob
Posted by Shawn91111
What goalposts? Was Stann even a top 10 fighter at all? His best win is Leben. How are the picks not relevant to how people feel? People make picks for any number or reasons, whether they like or despise a fighter or that they actually use their heads when making a pick.
Well, you said top 10 fighter on page 1, then changed it to top 5 - that's what I'm talking about.
MMA weekly certainly rates Stann as top ten and I'm sure they're not alone - it was my first hit from Google.
Picks aren't directly related to members opinions because its a game and sometimes you have to ignore your heart and rule with your head.
Bottom line is Bisping won't get balanced opinion certainly not on a US site, where he gets special treatment particularly since the Hamill fight, that's a fact.
Posted by Cooler
Posted by moob
Posted by Shawn91111
What goalposts? Was Stann even a top 10 fighter at all? His best win is Leben. How are the picks not relevant to how people feel? People make picks for any number or reasons, whether they like or despise a fighter or that they actually use their heads when making a pick.
Well, you said top 10 fighter on page 1, then changed it to top 5 - that's what I'm talking about.
MMA weekly certainly rates Stann as top ten and I'm sure they're not alone - it was my first hit from Google.
Picks aren't directly related to members opinions because its a game and sometimes you have to ignore your heart and rule with your head.
Bottom line is Bisping won't get balanced opinion certainly not on a US site, where he gets special treatment particularly since the Hamill fight, that's a fact.
And what top 10 did Stann beat to become a top 10? see where your logic fails?
And stop bringing nationality into this, that is just as weak as the race card.
Nobody has a problem with Bisping because he's British, get over yourself.
Posted by moob
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1244904-br-offical-mma-rankings-for-july-the-top-10-middleweights-in-mma
http://m.sherdog.com/news/rankings/4/Sherdogs-Official-Mixed-Martial-Arts-Rankings-43839
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2012/7/2/3130359/mma-nation-june-2012-consensus-rankings-middleweight
http://www.mmaweekly.com/middleweight-division-185-pound-limit-mma-top-10
Stann is in top ten in all of the above
Posted by Cooler
Posted by moob
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1244904-br-offical-mma-rankings-for-july-the-top-10-middleweights-in-mma
http://m.sherdog.com/news/rankings/4/Sherdogs-Official-Mixed-Martial-Arts-Rankings-43839
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2012/7/2/3130359/mma-nation-june-2012-consensus-rankings-middleweight
http://www.mmaweekly.com/middleweight-division-185-pound-limit-mma-top-10
Stann is in top ten in all of the above
Did you not just say rankings are just opinions and you don't really care who Bisping beat. ...
Posted by BigBadAl
Posted by Shawn91111
Posted by moob
Posted by Shawn91111
Posted by LightsOUT23
I love the way everyone tools Bisping in his hopes to get a title shot. Chael Sonnen Beat Brian stann and controversially beat Bisping to get his rematch with Silva. Everyone said Bisping was gonna get ko'd by Rivera. Mike won via tko. Everyone said Mayhem would out class Bisping in all areas, didn't happen, Mike won tko. Then came the almighty Chael Sonnen, everyone said Chael would wipe the floor with Bisping, that didn't happen either. In fact in a close fight, Chael even told Bisping that he thought Mike had won the fight. Bisping was the only guy who Chael had fought since chael vs Dan miller who was able to get back to his feet after every take down. That being said, Chael went on to get humiliated by Silva in the much anticipated rematch. Bisping vs Stann, oh no, let me guess, Everyone says Bisping is gonna get ko'd again... Didn't happen once again, Bisping shows his MMA experience to get the job done and beats Brian Stann.
Does Bisping deserve a title shot? Yes, i Believe Bisping can complicate a fight with Silva and make it an interesting match up. Mikes style is complicating and has been proven by the opponents he has faced recently. No one wether you love mike or hate mike can deny that he is so well rounded that he presents problems to any middleweight in that division. Give him his shot and i think once again, you haters will be surprised at how good a fight he gives silva !!!
Who is everyone? Bisping was a 76%-24% favorite on the playground over Rivera, and the betting favorite by a good margin on the vegas betting sites.
Granted Mayhem was the favorite on the playground, but that shows how out of whack the odds on the playground are.
Playground Odds- Miller -105 Real Odds - +186
Playground Odds- Bisping +105 Real Odds - 225
Tell Michael to face someone in the top 5 and he wins he gets his shot, until then he can keep bitching about beating mid level fighters.
So now its top 5? You keep moving the goalposts to suit your agenda.
The picks on here are completely irrelevant to how people feel, as the picks are a game...I think the majority opinion on here is that he is disliked and therefore doesn't afford the same chances others who are more favoured get.
You only have to take a look a number of recent opponents who faced Silva for the title, and its pretty easy to question their 'worthyness' in getting that shot.
What goalposts? Was Stann even a top 10 fighter at all? His best win is Leben. How are the picks not relevant to how people feel? People make picks for any number or reasons, whether they like or despise a fighter or that they actually use their heads when making a pick.
Sonnen got a title shot for beating Stann and Bisping (only just) and nobody said anything then so....
Posted by bigrand826
Posted by BigBadAl
Posted by Shawn91111
Posted by moob
Posted by Shawn91111
Posted by LightsOUT23
I love the way everyone tools Bisping in his hopes to get a title shot. Chael Sonnen Beat Brian stann and controversially beat Bisping to get his rematch with Silva. Everyone said Bisping was gonna get ko'd by Rivera. Mike won via tko. Everyone said Mayhem would out class Bisping in all areas, didn't happen, Mike won tko. Then came the almighty Chael Sonnen, everyone said Chael would wipe the floor with Bisping, that didn't happen either. In fact in a close fight, Chael even told Bisping that he thought Mike had won the fight. Bisping was the only guy who Chael had fought since chael vs Dan miller who was able to get back to his feet after every take down. That being said, Chael went on to get humiliated by Silva in the much anticipated rematch. Bisping vs Stann, oh no, let me guess, Everyone says Bisping is gonna get ko'd again... Didn't happen once again, Bisping shows his MMA experience to get the job done and beats Brian Stann.
Does Bisping deserve a title shot? Yes, i Believe Bisping can complicate a fight with Silva and make it an interesting match up. Mikes style is complicating and has been proven by the opponents he has faced recently. No one wether you love mike or hate mike can deny that he is so well rounded that he presents problems to any middleweight in that division. Give him his shot and i think once again, you haters will be surprised at how good a fight he gives silva !!!
Who is everyone? Bisping was a 76%-24% favorite on the playground over Rivera, and the betting favorite by a good margin on the vegas betting sites.
Granted Mayhem was the favorite on the playground, but that shows how out of whack the odds on the playground are.
Playground Odds- Miller -105 Real Odds - +186
Playground Odds- Bisping +105 Real Odds - 225
Tell Michael to face someone in the top 5 and he wins he gets his shot, until then he can keep bitching about beating mid level fighters.
So now its top 5? You keep moving the goalposts to suit your agenda.
The picks on here are completely irrelevant to how people feel, as the picks are a game...I think the majority opinion on here is that he is disliked and therefore doesn't afford the same chances others who are more favoured get.
You only have to take a look a number of recent opponents who faced Silva for the title, and its pretty easy to question their 'worthyness' in getting that shot.
What goalposts? Was Stann even a top 10 fighter at all? His best win is Leben. How are the picks not relevant to how people feel? People make picks for any number or reasons, whether they like or despise a fighter or that they actually use their heads when making a pick.
Sonnen got a title shot for beating Stann and Bisping (only just) and nobody said anything then so....
The bold above is the major difference. Right now, Bisping has only beaten Stann since losing to Sonnen. Was Bisping top 10 at that time? Surely he was. Was Stann? I don't recall (and it will vary depending on the site), but I'd think he was more highly ranked prior to getting streamrolled by Sonnen than after, with one win over Sakara.
Posted by BigBadAl
Posted by bigrand826
Posted by BigBadAl
Sonnen got a title shot for beating Stann and Bisping (only just) and nobody said anything then so....
The bold above is the major difference. Right now, Bisping has only beaten Stann since losing to Sonnen. Was Bisping top 10 at that time? Surely he was. Was Stann? I don't recall (and it will vary depending on the site), but I'd think he was more highly ranked prior to getting streamrolled by Sonnen than after, with one win over Sakara.
Yeah but Bisping can't fight himself and his fight against Sonnen was so close that I would say his stock went up even though he lost as far as the UFC is concerned anyway.
It's kind of irrelevant if he deserves it or not. Being a fighter who sells fights gives you preference over someone one or two places higher in the rankings who does not sell fights in Uncle Dana's view.