Medical Reasons Prevent Anthony Johnson From Making Weight

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FastKnockout
1/13/12 6:48:44PM
Anthony Johnson's manager explains what happened to his client for the UFC 142 weigh-ins, and promises that the fight with Vitor Belfort will still happen on Saturday night.

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Poor_Franklin
1/13/12 6:51:33PM
if medical reasons kept him from making this cut, what's to keep them from not making the next one?

imho, he needs to be at 205, win or lose, after this fight if his body is reacting this way to the cut
Budgellism
1/13/12 6:54:34PM

Posted by Poor_Franklin

if medical reasons kept him from making this cut, what's to keep them from not making the next one?



Exactly.
FastKnockout
1/13/12 6:59:11PM

Posted by Poor_Franklin

if medical reasons kept him from making this cut, what's to keep them from not making the next one?

imho, he needs to be at 205, win or lose, after this fight if his body is reacting this way to the cut



He will have to. But as long as Vitor agrees to keep the catchweight fight tomorrow (which he's done before) then everything should be alright.
KungFuMaster
1/13/12 7:09:06PM
I'm not so angry at Rumble anymore.

Go Rumble!
Kpro
1/13/12 7:20:44PM
So his management says he was 187.5 3 hours before weigh-ins. Any UFC personnel or medical staff on hand to confirm this?
Budgellism
1/13/12 7:27:00PM

Posted by Kpro

So his management says he was 187.5 3 hours before weigh-ins. Any UFC personnel or medical staff on hand to confirm this?



I don't know if I can honestly believe that. Might be true but right now I don't believe it.
Kpro
1/13/12 7:31:51PM

Posted by Budgellism


Posted by Kpro

So his management says he was 187.5 3 hours before weigh-ins. Any UFC personnel or medical staff on hand to confirm this?



I don't know if I can honestly believe that. Might be true but right now I don't believe it.



Yeah, at this point any comments from his management are most likely damage control. I'd need to hear anything like this from the UFC or medical staff or it's just as much news as any comment Scott Boras makes.
kopower
1/13/12 7:35:46PM
So, is the excuse for his body shutting down, the travel? How can he cut down to 170, but this time he can't make 185??
jlock003
1/13/12 7:48:34PM
If her were cutting to 170, it would be a 3-4 day process of just cutting the weight. That's not including the diet for the 2 weeks beforehand. The way it sounded to me he woke up in good shape and only needed to cut a few pounds, but when he started to cut he got extremely dehydrated so they called the doc who gave him fluids which is the absolute worst thing he could do in regards to making weight. I think 185 is waaaay more interesting for him than 205, but I would say he should manage the weight cut better overall.
Twenty20Dollars
1/13/12 8:03:16PM
Didn't Nate have a medical issue and he even made weight and look what happened to him.
DancingDoll
1/13/12 8:12:23PM
Sooo... they gave him 10 lbs of fluids? Seems a little excessive, no?

Good for his manager for spinning it well, but based on other reports it seems like Dana and Vitor were still upset about it just before the weigh-ins.

It'll be interesting to see if he makes 205lbs tomorrow.

airkerma
1/13/12 8:16:14PM
prophecy033
1/13/12 9:04:46PM
Is it possible that since Johnson has been on Dana's bad side a few times for not making weight, that he decided that since he wasn't close to 185, he would just call in the doctors and say he wasn't feeling good? I'm not trying to suggest anything here, that's just what popped in my head at first
Kpro
1/13/12 9:13:10PM

Posted by prophecy033

Is it possible that since Johnson has been on Dana's bad side a few times for not making weight, that he decided that since he wasn't close to 185, he would just call in the doctors and say he wasn't feeling good? I'm not trying to suggest anything here, that's just what popped in my head at first



I'm wondering if he even tried to cut weight today. Even his manager said he only cut 4 pounds, and I'd assume his manager would exaggerate (especially after the fan reaction to the weigh-in) since there's no way to prove it wrong.
FastKnockout
1/13/12 9:31:59PM
Johnson himself.

"I'm already laughing at what ppl are saying. Yeah it was for medical reason and I did what the UFC Dr Told me to do. Believe it or don't I give a fuck cuz the ppl close to me were freaking out but I'm still alive and something like this has never happen before. Say what you want I'm still gonna do my thang. You try not having feeling in your legs and can't move then and see how you look at life after that."

Sounds similar to what happened to Carwin in his fight against Lesnar.
Kpro
1/13/12 9:44:09PM
Well in that case I take back everything I......

“I made weight so all u f***** haterz can eat a mutha f***** dick. Never doubt ME!!! - post weigh-in comment from his last fight.

Ohhhh, nevermind, I forgot he had a worthless personality towards fans and makes himself a criticism magnet.
Sir_Karl
1/13/12 11:08:47PM
I would love to know how he ever made 170lbs in the past. How could he get down to 170lbs in the past and now he can't get down to 185lbs? Something smells rotten in Denmark. Also it means nothing that he almost got to weight a few hours before the fight....what matters is how much he weighs at the weigh-ins. You either make the weight or you don't. He didn't.
DeadHead988
1/13/12 11:30:44PM
I don't want to jump to any conclusions and I'm trying my best to not be too explicit for fear of banning but there's usually only one reason a fighter would consume large amounts of fluid leading up to a fight.
Kpro
1/14/12 12:00:50AM

Posted by DeadHead988

I don't want to jump to any conclusions and I'm trying my best to not be too explicit for fear of banning but there's usually only one reason a fighter would consume large amounts of fluid leading up to a fight.



That's dilutional.

But in all seriousness, I believe that the doctor recommended he hydrate... there's no on-the-spot test to see if your organs are failing so if you say you can't feel your legs, they're gonna be pumping you with multiple IV's and F the weigh-ins as health is paramount. But if that was really all there was to it, and Rumble really was 187.5 a few hours before weigh-ins.... I guess I'd just say Rumble and his management's story don't line up with Dana's anger level. If he was 1.5 pounds away a few hours before weigh-ins and a doctor (employed by the UFC or the AC in Brazil) called for an IV and to hydrate for medical reasons due to loss of feeling in his legs, Dana wouldn't be this angry, plain and simple.
bjj1605
1/14/12 12:13:24AM
He's had to many problems making weight in the past for me to buy this excuse.
FastKnockout
1/14/12 12:13:51AM

Posted by Kpro


Posted by DeadHead988

I don't want to jump to any conclusions and I'm trying my best to not be too explicit for fear of banning but there's usually only one reason a fighter would consume large amounts of fluid leading up to a fight.



That's dilutional.

But in all seriousness, I believe that the doctor recommended he hydrate... there's no on-the-spot test to see if your organs are failing so if you say you can't feel your legs, they're gonna be pumping you with multiple IV's and F the weigh-ins as health is paramount. But if that was really all there was to it, and Rumble really was 187.5 a few hours before weigh-ins.... I guess I'd just say Rumble and his management's story don't line up with Dana's anger level. If he was 1.5 pounds away a few hours before weigh-ins and a doctor (employed by the UFC or the AC in Brazil) called for an IV and to hydrate for medical reasons due to loss of feeling in his legs, Dana wouldn't be this angry, plain and simple.



According to Kevin Iole from Yahoo Sports the medical doctor who observed the weight cut and suggested immediate action was Jeff Davidson who works for the UFC and also as an emergency room doctor in Vegas.
DeadHead988
1/14/12 12:18:44AM

Posted by FastKnockout


Posted by Kpro


Posted by DeadHead988

I don't want to jump to any conclusions and I'm trying my best to not be too explicit for fear of banning but there's usually only one reason a fighter would consume large amounts of fluid leading up to a fight.



That's dilutional.

But in all seriousness, I believe that the doctor recommended he hydrate... there's no on-the-spot test to see if your organs are failing so if you say you can't feel your legs, they're gonna be pumping you with multiple IV's and F the weigh-ins as health is paramount. But if that was really all there was to it, and Rumble really was 187.5 a few hours before weigh-ins.... I guess I'd just say Rumble and his management's story don't line up with Dana's anger level. If he was 1.5 pounds away a few hours before weigh-ins and a doctor (employed by the UFC or the AC in Brazil) called for an IV and to hydrate for medical reasons due to loss of feeling in his legs, Dana wouldn't be this angry, plain and simple.



According to Kevin Iole from Yahoo Sports the medical doctor who observed the weight cut and suggested immediate action was Jeff Davidson who works for the UFC and also as an emergency room doctor in Vegas.



That's good I feel better about it then. Just goes to show how stupid and dangerous excessive weight cutting is.
FastKnockout
1/14/12 12:25:19AM

Posted by DeadHead988


Posted by FastKnockout


Posted by Kpro


Posted by DeadHead988

I don't want to jump to any conclusions and I'm trying my best to not be too explicit for fear of banning but there's usually only one reason a fighter would consume large amounts of fluid leading up to a fight.



That's dilutional.

But in all seriousness, I believe that the doctor recommended he hydrate... there's no on-the-spot test to see if your organs are failing so if you say you can't feel your legs, they're gonna be pumping you with multiple IV's and F the weigh-ins as health is paramount. But if that was really all there was to it, and Rumble really was 187.5 a few hours before weigh-ins.... I guess I'd just say Rumble and his management's story don't line up with Dana's anger level. If he was 1.5 pounds away a few hours before weigh-ins and a doctor (employed by the UFC or the AC in Brazil) called for an IV and to hydrate for medical reasons due to loss of feeling in his legs, Dana wouldn't be this angry, plain and simple.



According to Kevin Iole from Yahoo Sports the medical doctor who observed the weight cut and suggested immediate action was Jeff Davidson who works for the UFC and also as an emergency room doctor in Vegas.



That's good I feel better about it then. Just goes to show how stupid and dangerous excessive weight cutting is.



I'm afraid for his safety, though. He shouldn't be fighting after this situation, especially against a dangerous guy like Belfort.
DeadHead988
1/14/12 12:45:21AM
Yeah makes me wonder why you're still picking him lol
Kpro
1/14/12 1:05:34AM

Posted by FastKnockout

I'm afraid for his safety, though. He shouldn't be fighting after this situation, especially against a dangerous guy like Belfort.



The UFC 142 weigh-ins were 32.5 hours before the fight will start. More than a US PPV because of the fights being in Brazil and the time they blocked with FUEL.

Per his and his manager's words he was at 187.5 when he began rehydrating, so he will have re-hydrated up to 17 pounds from that point until he re-weighs tomorrow. Most fighters don't even gain 17 pounds from weigh-ins to fight time.

He also has 12.5 hours between his re-weigh and his fight to hydrate, as the re-weigh is tentatively planned for 2pm and his fight will start at approximately 2:30am.

I'm no doctor, but it doesn't sound like his physical safety is in any jeopardy at this point aside from maybe his state of mind being shook from 'losing feeling in his legs' per his words. I'd be surprised if he isn't at least 25-30 pounds over 185 at fight time.

If I was Vitor I would've wanted the re-weigh a whole lot closer than 12.5 hours from fight time.
tcunningham
1/14/12 1:28:41AM
still not an excuse IMO. he should have done his homework prior to the cut. ive had team mates in really bad shape in the sauna, barely make weight while looking like death and barely conscious, then rise to the occasion and win a title. im still not buying this excuse.
RearNakedJoke
1/14/12 2:17:29AM

Posted by kopower

So, is the excuse for his body shutting down, the travel? How can he cut down to 170, but this time he can't make 185??



i dont recall him making the cut to 170 with much success.


seriously though you guys are all taking a very glass is half empty perspective on this whole thing. He didnt miss middleweight by 12 pounds he almost MADE light heavy weight! thats the closest hes been to making weight in three fights.
RearNakedJoke
1/14/12 10:05:52AM
After seeing his recent comments regarding fans and how people dont know how close to death he was, i have come to the conclusion this guy is an idiot. If you had a proper weight cut you wouldnt be cutting massive amounts of weight the day before the fight and putting yourself "that close to death"

Join Nelson at heavy weight so you can eat what you want and not worry about your weight!
Manak
1/14/12 11:43:44AM
if I was dana i would force him to fight at 205, it is clear he STILL doesn't understand how to do a healthy weight cut,



to me this is unacceptable, this is his 11 fight in the UFC, he should not be having these problems
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