Matt Hamill “in Shock” Over UFC 78’s Evans-Bisping Booking

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grappler0000
10/4/07 9:11:43PM
UFC light heavyweight Matt Hamill, who lost a controversial split decision to Michael Bisping last month at UFC 75 (and subsequently was promised an immediate rematch), is “in shock” after learning that Bisping will first fight Rashad Evans at UFC 78.

The former cast member from “The Ultimate Fighter 3” posted a message on his personal website, matthamill.com, saying he “got hosed by the judges in London” and that he is now getting the same treatment from Bisping and the UFC.

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MALICE
10/4/07 9:27:23PM
At first I thought it was such ridiculously terrible decision that he should get a rematch right away. I still think this. But I also think he should move on. He showed so much improvement in that fight I think he is ready for a stronger opponent. He can get his rematch whenever. Almost everyone thought it was his win anyway. He should face tougher opponents and worry about avenging this loss after a string of W's.
Sir_Karl
10/4/07 9:36:16PM
....and we the fans get screwed out of not only Hamill vs. Bisping II, but also Ortiz vs. Evans II.
Bisping vs. Evans should be a good fight though.
Tito is just a wingnut....maybe Hamill can fight him.
MeanGreene
10/4/07 10:40:12PM
I may be the only one that feels this way ,but I really dont care to see any of these fighters fight each other.

They screwed up both fights anyway! Hamill and evens were both clear winners IMO

Almost as bad as Griffin vs. Ortiz and Penn vs GSP!
Naturaldisaster
10/5/07 12:32:54AM
I seriously hope rashad hurts Bisping badly! VERY BADLY!
postman
10/5/07 12:55:32AM

Posted by Sir_Karl

....and we the fans get screwed out of not only Hamill vs. Bisping II, but also Ortiz vs. Evans II.
Bisping vs. Evans should be a good fight though.
Tito is just a wingnut....maybe Hamill can fight him.



Hamill trains under Tito so they won't fight. I really didn't like either of thier first fights and wasn't looking forward to the ramtches kinda glad they arn't going to happen.
snakeplissken
10/5/07 2:42:02AM

Posted by postman


Posted by Sir_Karl

....and we the fans get screwed out of not only Hamill vs. Bisping II, but also Ortiz vs. Evans II.
Bisping vs. Evans should be a good fight though.
Tito is just a wingnut....maybe Hamill can fight him.



Hamill trains under Tito so they won't fight. I really didn't like either of thier first fights and wasn't looking forward to the ramtches kinda glad they arn't going to happen.



Hamill doesn't train under Tito. He left him a while back he has his own Gym and team.

Hamill is in danger of becoming a whinger because he's not getting his own way. It's not like he's beaten anyone of note yet anyway.

I like th Bisping Evans fight. I think it will be very good for one of them (i.e whoever wins) as it will propell them to the upper tier of the LHW. If Bisping loses he'll drop to MW. Evans loses he'll pursue Tito again Im sure.

I think Bisping will take it. He's a far more active fighter.
roman
10/5/07 4:43:03AM

Posted by MeanGreene

I may be the only one that feels this way ,but I really dont care to see any of these fighters fight each other.

They screwed up both fights anyway! Hamill and evens were both clear winners IMO

Almost as bad as Griffin vs. Ortiz and Penn vs GSP!



LOL Hamill is the only one who might have seemed like he clearly won the fight. Whenever you leave it to the judges shit happens dude. As for Tito Evans, I had Tito ahead except for the fence grabbing, so he ****** himself. If your going to get a point taken away go for the win, your chances of winning by desicion are shit.

Penn gassed and got manhandled in the 3rd and the 2nd was close (so that's 1st for Penn easily, 2nd for judges to decide, and 3rd for GSP easily). So again can't leave it up to the judges. He lost no matter what GSP looked like. Thats how the 10 point scoring system works pal.

As for Hamill he should drop it and be glad. Bisping is going to get handled by Evans and be exposed for the hack he is.

And Tito well who cares about Tito anymore. God knows what in the hell he is thinking half the time. So I'm with ya on this one mate, I could care less if Tito Evans happens again. Tito isn't even a fighter IMO anymore.
roman
10/5/07 5:04:40AM

Posted by snakeplissken

Hamill doesn't train under Tito. He left him a while back he has his own Gym and team.

Hamill is in danger of becoming a whinger because he's not getting his own way. It's not like he's beaten anyone of note yet anyway.

I like th Bisping Evans fight. I think it will be very good for one of them (i.e whoever wins) as it will propell them to the upper tier of the LHW. If Bisping loses he'll drop to MW. Evans loses he'll pursue Tito again Im sure.

I think Bisping will take it. He's a far more active fighter.



If Hamill was a whinner he would've bitched about his loss then and there in the cage, instead he took it in stride and like a true competitor said Bisping fought a great fight. I would be pissed too if the UFC said they would have a rematch and then you hear about this.

With that being said I agree the Evans Bisping fight is more appealing to me. Bisping was exposed for what he truely was in his fight with Hamill; a weak overrated LHW. I find it mind-boggling that you would pick Bisping over Evans after Bispings last performance and the way Evans has been fighting (I might not like Tito at all, but he is somewhere in top 15 LHWs and Evans took him the distance) . LOL and to say Bisping is a more active fighter, I can't phantom putting far more even for this, after he literally ran away from Hamill for 3 rounds is well retarded..... did you even watch the fight????? Evans will dominate this fight anywhere it goes. He is bigger stronger and more talented then Bisping.

Hamill proved he's the real deal. I thought he was going to take bisping down and lay there. Instead he wooped his ass on his feet. He should took Bisping down have worked from Bispings guard a little more, that was his only mistake.
snakeplissken
10/5/07 5:13:00AM

Posted by roman


Posted by snakeplissken

Hamill doesn't train under Tito. He left him a while back he has his own Gym and team.

Hamill is in danger of becoming a whinger because he's not getting his own way. It's not like he's beaten anyone of note yet anyway.

I like th Bisping Evans fight. I think it will be very good for one of them (i.e whoever wins) as it will propell them to the upper tier of the LHW. If Bisping loses he'll drop to MW. Evans loses he'll pursue Tito again Im sure.

I think Bisping will take it. He's a far more active fighter.



If Hamill was a whinner he would've bitched about his loss then and there in the cage, instead he took it in stride and like a true competitor said Bisping fought a great fight. I would be pissed too if the UFC said they would have a rematch and then you hear about this.

With that being said I agree the Evans Bisping fight is more appealing to me. Bisping was exposed for what he truely was in his fight with Hamill; a weak overrated LHW. I find it mind-boggling that you would pick Bisping over Evans after Bispings last performance and the way Evans has been fighting (I might not like Tito at all, but he is somewhere in top 15 LHWs and Evans took him the distance) . LOL and to say Bisping is a more active fighter, I can't phantom putting far more even for this, after he literally ran away from Hamill for 3 rounds is well retarded..... did you even watch the fight????? Evans will dominate this fight anywhere it goes. He is bigger stronger and more talented then Bisping.

Hamill proved he's the real deal. I thought he was going to take bisping down and lay there. Instead he wooped his ass on his feet. He should took Bisping down have worked from Bispings guard a little more, that was his only mistake.



If you read my post properly you would see I posted 'In Danger of becoming' not that that he was. For the Bisping Hamill fight I was in the ringside press area so yes I did get a close look at the fight.

Bisping has one bad match and everyone jumps on the bandwagon that Bispings no good. He's still 15-0. He may have not fought a Liddell or Rampage or Henderson calibre fighter, but in his own words he's still fairly new to the sport still learning. The mistake Bisping and his team made in the fight against Hamill was that they expected him to goto the floor and not stand with Bisping. That was just naivety on their part. It's a bit unfair to crucify the guy for a judges decision that he did not make. Granted he could have been a bit more humble after the match, but he's a fighter and that what fighters do. He's not asking for title fights and he's just trying to do his best. I think he will beat Evans as he (evans) has a tendency to be a dull in a fight when he's not up for it.
roman
10/5/07 6:54:20AM

Posted by snakeplissken


Posted by roman


Posted by snakeplissken

Hamill doesn't train under Tito. He left him a while back he has his own Gym and team.

Hamill is in danger of becoming a whinger because he's not getting his own way. It's not like he's beaten anyone of note yet anyway.

I like th Bisping Evans fight. I think it will be very good for one of them (i.e whoever wins) as it will propell them to the upper tier of the LHW. If Bisping loses he'll drop to MW. Evans loses he'll pursue Tito again Im sure.

I think Bisping will take it. He's a far more active fighter.



If Hamill was a whinner he would've bitched about his loss then and there in the cage, instead he took it in stride and like a true competitor said Bisping fought a great fight. I would be pissed too if the UFC said they would have a rematch and then you hear about this.

With that being said I agree the Evans Bisping fight is more appealing to me. Bisping was exposed for what he truely was in his fight with Hamill; a weak overrated LHW. I find it mind-boggling that you would pick Bisping over Evans after Bispings last performance and the way Evans has been fighting (I might not like Tito at all, but he is somewhere in top 15 LHWs and Evans took him the distance) . LOL and to say Bisping is a more active fighter, I can't phantom putting far more even for this, after he literally ran away from Hamill for 3 rounds is well retarded..... did you even watch the fight????? Evans will dominate this fight anywhere it goes. He is bigger stronger and more talented then Bisping.

Hamill proved he's the real deal. I thought he was going to take bisping down and lay there. Instead he wooped his ass on his feet. He should took Bisping down have worked from Bispings guard a little more, that was his only mistake.



If you read my post properly you would see I posted 'In Danger of becoming' not that that he was. For the Bisping Hamill fight I was in the ringside press area so yes I did get a close look at the fight.

Bisping has one bad match and everyone jumps on the bandwagon that Bispings no good. He's still 15-0. He may have not fought a Liddell or Rampage or Henderson calibre fighter, but in his own words he's still fairly new to the sport still learning. The mistake Bisping and his team made in the fight against Hamill was that they expected him to goto the floor and not stand with Bisping. That was just naivety on their part. It's a bit unfair to crucify the guy for a judges decision that he did not make. Granted he could have been a bit more humble after the match, but he's a fighter and that what fighters do. He's not asking for title fights and he's just trying to do his best. I think he will beat Evans as he (evans) has a tendency to be a dull in a fight when he's not up for it.


Wheter he lost or not Bisping's performance is a huge problem. Wheter he acted like an asshole, which he did, or not, does not matter. Hamill jumped leaps and bounds, proving to everyone he is a stand-up fighter. Bisping is small and you didn't address the fact that he ran the whole time against Hamill. He has not improved anything to anyone. You say who has Hamill, I say who has Bisping fought and how well did he look against them.



You also put, "It's not like [Hamill] beaten anyone of note yet anyway." This is the statment that set me off, who hads Bisping beaten??????? And you think he will be Evans. You will be signing a different tune come there fight

SORRY I WAS DRUNK BUT I STILL AGREE< SORRY IT"S HARD TO READ
waylon_o
10/5/07 7:32:38AM
I think Evans/Bisping is gonna be a good fight, but I think the UFC owes Matt Hamill a rematch with Michael Bisping. That was by far the biggest judge foul-up I have witnessed in the sport, so they owe this to him.
DCRage
10/5/07 8:10:32AM

Once again Dana follows through with his big promises and gives us what we want. NOT.
War Rashad.
snakeplissken
10/5/07 8:43:07AM
For All you Bisping Haters out there (Roman)

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TNunley
10/5/07 8:49:42AM
Reminds me of that Mountain Dew commercial.... "We got hosed, Tommy... We got hosed!"
wagere
10/5/07 9:13:39AM
I wanted to see the rematch with Hamill and Bisping as bad as anyone. But really it would be a step back for Hamill, I mean he went out there and beat the guy already with a torn ligament in his knee that kept him from using the most dominant weapon in his arsenal. On paper Bisping won the match but thats the only place. In the eyes of pretty much evryone including the match makers Hamill is the better fighter and person.
twoguns365
10/5/07 9:43:38AM




I think he will beat Evans as he (evans) has a tendency to be a dull in a fight when he's not up for it.


While Evans has looked boring before, I believe he's turned the corner on the aggression side. He finished Lambert and Salmon, but with the Ortiz fight, I think that was more nerves and style than anything. I think for the Bisping fight Evans will go back to a more up tempo style.
MeanGreene
10/5/07 10:37:17AM
Now i watched the Penn/GSP fight like 8 frickin times and honestly, Penn out struck him and worked him on the ground! Am i really the only one that feels that penn clearly won this fight?!

So if you get a late takedown in the 3rd but fail to capitalize with it that means you win the round!? HA
TNunley
10/5/07 10:55:17AM

Posted by MeanGreene

Now i watched the Penn/GSP fight like 8 frickin times and honestly, Penn out struck him and worked him on the ground! Am i really the only one that feels that penn clearly won this fight?!

So if you get a late takedown in the 3rd but fail to capitalize with it that means you win the round!? HA



Although I think you probably ARE the only one who feels he "clearly" won the fight.... I think he was clearly dominating Hughes the entire time... until the 3rd round. But, in the end he lost... can't do anything to change it but we'll always wonder "What if?" I think if they fought again Penn would own him again, and probably finish it this time.
D0wnUnd6e6r
10/5/07 11:12:12AM
Ya gotta feel for the guy. I mean come one, totally getting screwed in the decision now he's getting screwed not even getting his rematch. Once again Dana has to wake up. Rashad'll just end up griding a decision, Bisping ain't gonna be able to get himself outta this one.
MeanGreene
10/5/07 12:19:55PM
I watched the Penn/GSP fight like 8 frickin times and Penn outstruck him and worked him on the ground! Am I the only one that feels he won this fight!?

Just because you get a late takedown in the 3rd round and fail to capitalize on it u win that round, HA! I dont think so, GSP got his a** wooped
madmarck
10/5/07 12:23:21PM
Keith Jardine clearly beat Stephan Bonnar. Did he bitch long? nope he turned around and KO'd Forrest and then beat Chuck like it was nothing.
wapttn
10/5/07 3:02:05PM

Posted by MeanGreene

I watched the Penn/GSP fight like 8 frickin times and Penn outstruck him and worked him on the ground! Am I the only one that feels he won this fight!?

Just because you get a late takedown in the 3rd round and fail to capitalize on it u win that round, HA! I dont think so, GSP got his a** wooped



agreed, i had to watch that fight over and over. Penn's rubber guard neutralized gsp's groundNpound after the takedown, so apart from octagon control, that takedown was worthless. You can still give the 3rd round to GSP, but the first 2 went to Penn. I heard a quote from penn after the fight that i thought summed it up nicely. "after the fight I went out and partied with my friends, after the fight, george went to the hospital
Canadian-Pain
10/5/07 4:47:58PM
Hamill got hosed, i had him 2-0 in rounds with the middle being a tie, but if his knee is an issue then UFC has to look after there best intrests and not have to hope he is "ready"

I dont agree with one of the posters about GSP/Penn, Penn won the 1st round because of a lucky punch that clipped Gsp's nose and then Penn could not do anything to defend GSP taking him down at will.
Untill they dont score takedowns as something that matters and go to striking like boxing my decision on that isnt going to change.

2-1 GSP imho (take it for what its worth)
Scott_Revels
10/5/07 5:38:32PM
You had to have known it wasn't going to happen. The UFC needs Bisping to stay undefeated. The Bisping/Rashad fight will go to decision as well, and it'll go to Bisping. This will put Rashad and Matt out of the picture. Both of these guys will/have manhandle(d) Bisping, and the UFC needs Bisping to keep winning though. When they make The US Vs. The UK next year, who do you think the UFC will use to represent the UK, against Rampage? Duh. Bisping. Therefore, all Bisping has to do is stay alive for a decision, put up some kind've offense, and then rake in another win. Then have Bisping run his mouth and insult the fighter he just 'beat', and you've got the makings of a "good guy vs bad guy" fight. Bisping will lose to Rampage, and Rampage will be like Couture is in peoples eyes.
wapttn
10/5/07 6:22:11PM
hahaha..
think this through, you think that bisping is gonna have a title shot by next year? You gotta beat a no1 contender to be a no1 contender. This guy just got outboxed by a wrestler, imagine if you threw him in there with liddel, hendo, wanderlei, or tito.. cause he's gonna have to beat someone of that level before he's considered championship material. And you gotta throw that idea of him being the UK's golden boy out the window. I dont know if you noticed what the crowds reaction to him winning against hamill was.. he got booed. Bisping is an embarassment to the UK, and true mma fans know it. I'm telling you right now, bisping will go to 185 before he even comes close to a titleshot
Chudly
10/18/07 6:12:08PM
Lets put this into perspective . Hamill is the worst possible person to market. Not to knock his disabilitys or anything but we the people want a show and Bisping and hamill was a Yawn fest as for being a main card. I miss Pride at least they has awesome cards to watch.....
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