If Mark Hunt makes weight, he will be the most devastating UFC champ in history...

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warglory
10/15/07 8:36:44PM
I am a big fan of Mark Hunt and think he is one of the most under-appreciated fighters in this sport today. I think once he makes weight (which is bound to happen soon), he will maul all the competition. A man his size who is a kickboxer by trade who can work the ground? I can't seem one individual in the division right now that will beat him, including Nog.
Adam_Buru
10/15/07 8:47:59PM
Minotauro or Gonzaga would submit him in under 5 minutes!
jocksmall
10/15/07 8:56:53PM

Posted by warglory

I am a big fan of Mark Hunt and think he is one of the most under-appreciated fighters in this sport today. I think once he makes weight (which is bound to happen soon), he will maul all the competition. A man his size who is a kickboxer by trade who can work the ground? I can't seem one individual in the division right now that will beat him, including Nog.


i too like hunt but the ufc is full of grapplers who will take him down. he is weak on the ground. standing he is the man but can he remain standing in the ufc? not unless he has improved drastically since his last several fights.
tuvok500
10/15/07 8:57:21PM
well, greatest ufc champ in history !!!! well, i have to disagree man !!

i see, gonzaga , nog, sylvia, AA, and even kongo being able to beat him.

so, the only history that he will make is a very short passage in the ufc, well if he fight in the ufc 1 day.

i will not argue that he is a big guy and very strong too, but , i think that the conditionning of the ufc fighters is a little too much for him.

i also think that the supposely REBORN crocop will be able to beat him .

sorry man LOL







warglory
10/15/07 8:58:01PM

Posted by Adam_Buru

Minotauro or Gonzaga would submit him in under 5 minutes!



Have you seen his fight against Fedor? I have never seen Fedor that exposed on the ground before. Hunt is like Jeff Monson in that he is very stocky and hard to take down. He got beat by Barnett and Fedor in his last two matches, but Christ, it's Fedor and Barnett!
warglory
10/15/07 9:01:42PM
Name one guy in the UFC who can stand up with Mark Hunt. AA? Sylvia? Neither would stand a chance against Hunt imo. Now imagine Hunt with Liddell's sprawl.

The_Grim_Reaper
10/15/07 9:23:05PM
all i can do is imagine it, but that's it untill i see, and liddell's sprawl is medeokore he gets taken down its just that once hes down its very hard to keep him down
warglory
10/15/07 9:24:30PM
No way, Liddell has one of the best sprawl's in the business.
Adam_Buru
10/15/07 9:26:11PM

Posted by warglory


Posted by Adam_Buru

Minotauro or Gonzaga would submit him in under 5 minutes!



Have you seen his fight against Fedor? I have never seen Fedor that exposed on the ground before. Hunt is like Jeff Monson in that he is very stocky and hard to take down. He got beat by Barnett and Fedor in his last two matches, but Christ, it's Fedor and Barnett!



Yes I have, but as I understand it, he weighed over 270 for that fight and Fedor didn't seem himself. I'll grant you that I doubt anyone can beat the man standing, but his cardio isn't great and he doesn't have an intelligent game plan against submissions experts, he got subbed by Yoshida for goodness sake. To say he'll be "the most devastating UFC champ in history.." is the type of bold statement that I expect to see from some of the n00bs over at the Sherdog forums. I stand by my statement that Gonzaga, Minotauro and even Werdum would sub him, but hey, I'd love to see him in the UFC too.
Adam_Buru
10/15/07 9:28:17PM

Posted by The_Grim_Reaper

all i can do is imagine it, but that's it untill i see, and liddell's sprawl is medeokore he gets taken down its just that once hes down its very hard to keep him down



Liddell's sprawl isn't mediocre, it's very good.
jiujitsufreak74
10/15/07 10:38:39PM

Posted by warglory

Name one guy in the UFC who can stand up with Mark Hunt. AA? Sylvia? Neither would stand a chance against Hunt imo. Now imagine Hunt with Liddell's sprawl.




first of all....kongo would destroy him standing. AA can also stand with him, and so could sylvia (don't forget that reach) and even GG can. look, hunt is ok, but i think your crazy if you think he is going to be a HW champ. hunt is just a fat striker who uses his huge weight advantage for power. i cant see him making any impact at all in the HW division. he would get subbed by GG no problem, big nog would have a field day w/ him, i agree that werdum can also sub him and also AA could work a submission on him. he is too one-dimensional, and his one dimension isn't that good imo. honestly, i don't understand where you are coming from with this
cmill21
10/15/07 11:05:25PM

Posted by jiujitsufreak74


Posted by warglory

Name one guy in the UFC who can stand up with Mark Hunt. AA? Sylvia? Neither would stand a chance against Hunt imo. Now imagine Hunt with Liddell's sprawl.




first of all....kongo would destroy him standing. AA can also stand with him, and so could sylvia (don't forget that reach) and even GG can. look, hunt is ok, but i think your crazy if you think he is going to be a HW champ. hunt is just a fat striker who uses his huge weight advantage for power. i cant see him making any impact at all in the HW division. he would get subbed by GG no problem, big nog would have a field day w/ him, i agree that werdum can also sub him and also AA could work a submission on him. he is too one-dimensional, and his one dimension isn't that good imo. honestly, i don't understand where you are coming from with this



Sorry but I need to say something to this. Kongo coulden't finish Cro Cop, who had a broken rib. Hunt is a former K-1 world champion kickboxer, he's alllllot better then kongo on the feet. Hunt is also literally un-koable lol, Cro Cop kicked him flush in the head and it didn't even knock him down. There is one person in the UFC whould woulden't get killed standing with him, and thats the only other former K-1 star, Cro Cop. Hunt would also be fighting at 285-290lbs, so his weight would pose a huge problem to GG and the other grapplers. Fedor had difficulty subbing him and fedor's got decen't subs lol. Sorry I think Hunt would be great in the UFC.
tuvok500
10/15/07 11:36:42PM

Posted by cmill21


Posted by jiujitsufreak74


Posted by warglory

Name one guy in the UFC who can stand up with Mark Hunt. AA? Sylvia? Neither would stand a chance against Hunt imo. Now imagine Hunt with Liddell's sprawl.




first of all....kongo would destroy him standing. AA can also stand with him, and so could sylvia (don't forget that reach) and even GG can. look, hunt is ok, but i think your crazy if you think he is going to be a HW champ. hunt is just a fat striker who uses his huge weight advantage for power. i cant see him making any impact at all in the HW division. he would get subbed by GG no problem, big nog would have a field day w/ him, i agree that werdum can also sub him and also AA could work a submission on him. he is too one-dimensional, and his one dimension isn't that good imo. honestly, i don't understand where you are coming from with this



Sorry but I need to say something to this. Kongo coulden't finish Cro Cop, who had a broken rib. Hunt is a former K-1 world champion kickboxer, he's alllllot better then kongo on the feet. Hunt is also literally un-koable lol, Cro Cop kicked him flush in the head and it didn't even knock him down. There is one person in the UFC whould woulden't get killed standing with him, and thats the only other former K-1 star, Cro Cop. Hunt would also be fighting at 285-290lbs, so his weight would pose a huge problem to GG and the other grapplers. Fedor had difficulty subbing him and fedor's got decen't subs lol. Sorry I think Hunt would be great in the UFC.



i am sorry to tell you that man, but you can't bring back crocop for every post on every subject !! LOL
crocop is indeed a 1 dimensional fighter who got destroyed 2 time in a row in the ufc and now you are telling that kongo who beated crocop will not beat hunt because crocop was not able to KO hunt, man i will do what you do so often, "kongo beated crocop, crocop beated hunt, so kongo will beat hunt"
same for GG who destroyed crocop very easely,so that put him a lot better that crocop man.MMA is not a K-1 fight man, you can grap a guy and put him down and the referee will not stop you and give you a warning !!!
in 2007, the strategy is a very good weapon who can turn a big 260 fighter into a sleeping guy very easely .

not mentioning the conditioning and the pace who is now so huge in mma.
hunt is nowhere close to a champ in ufc , maybe a good entertainment but not a champ or a title contender.


cmill21
10/16/07 12:16:06AM
Lol you need to brush up on your english so you know what i'm saying lol. The reason I brought Cro Cop up was the fact that he is the only one in the UFC with the kickboxing pedigree to match Hunt's. Now if your going to comment on Hunt, do some research and acctually watch his fights, he's got some decent ground skills(nearly subbed Fedor), great kickboxing skills(he's a former K-1 champ), and he's got a head of absolute iron. I don't agree with the OP, I don't think he would be the most devastating ever, but I beleive he could make it to the title. He will have a weight advantage over most if not all the HW's, he will have better kickboxing then all but one, and he will have a decent ground game, not to mention it doesn't appear he can be KO'd since Cro Cop landed two devasting, flush head kicks, and neither KO'd him, so if GG caught him with that sloppy head kick that he throws hunt might slightly wince, but he won't fall. Please guys watch his fights before you comment on him, don't just sherdog stat search him. Oh and no GG is not better then Cro Cop in mma, he was better on that night, look at their careers please. Not saying anything else on that subject.
Adam_Buru
10/16/07 12:32:34AM

Posted by tuvok500

i am sorry to tell you that man, but you can't bring back crocop for every post on every subject !! LOL
crocop is indeed a 1 dimensional fighter who got destroyed 2 time in a row in the ufc and now you are telling that kongo who beated crocop will not beat hunt because crocop was not able to KO hunt, man i will do what you do so often, "kongo beated crocop, crocop beated hunt, so kongo will beat hunt"
same for GG who destroyed crocop very easely,so that put him a lot better that crocop man.

not mentioning the conditioning and the pace who is now so huge in mma.
hunt is nowhere close to a champ in ufc , maybe a good entertainment but not a champ or a title contender.





I think it depends on who is the champ at that specific time, whether Hunt could beat and become the UFC heavyweight champion. Styles make matches and stylistically Hunt matches up badly against submission fighters. Hunt is indeed a K1 level striker and I personally believe he would beat a lot of the main UFC heavyweight strikers, Kongo, Arlovski, and Sylvia. Cro Cop may have lost by KO to Gonzaga, but that doesn't mean Gonzaga is a better striker than Cro Cop. Many factors dictated Cro Cop's loss on that night, the fact that Gonzaga took him down and used elbows which were foreign to Mirko, gave him blurred vision so that when he stood up he was easily KO'ed. Gonzaga won fair and square and is an overall more complete MMA fighter than the more one dimensional Cro Cop, but he's NOT a better striker.

Point being, MMAthematics do NOT work and should never be used. Cro Cop and Hunt are K1 level strikers and that poses a real threat in the UFC despite Mirko's poor showings thus far. Hunt also has a head made out of granite and Kongo (although a very accurate striker) has not the power to trouble Hunt standing.

In conclusion....

Against strikers such as Arlovski, Kongo, Sylvia, Vera, = Hunt has a good chance of success.
Against submissions experts and intelligent ground fighters = Hunt will more than likely get pwned.

That's just my opinion anyhoo.
cmill21
10/16/07 12:39:44AM
I can agree with you Buru. I think Hunt's ground game could use work(obviously) but he did decent in his fight with Fedor, so who knows it could be improving. Nog and Werdum would be able to get a sub but it woulden't be easy, but I don't know how Werdum would get him down, and GG I don't know how he'd get him down either, since we haven't see much in the takedown department from them.
tuvok500
10/16/07 12:44:03AM

Posted by cmill21

Lol you need to brush up on your english so you know what i'm saying lol. The reason I brought Cro Cop up was the fact that he is the only one in the UFC with the kickboxing pedigree to match Hunt's. Now if your going to comment on Hunt, do some research and acctually watch his fights, he's got some decent ground skills(nearly subbed Fedor), great kickboxing skills(he's a former K-1 champ), and he's got a head of absolute iron. I don't agree with the OP, I don't think he would be the most devastating ever, but I beleive he could make it to the title. He will have a weight advantage over most if not all the HW's, he will have better kickboxing then all but one, and he will have a decent ground game, not to mention it doesn't appear he can be KO'd since Cro Cop landed two devasting, flush head kicks, and neither KO'd him, so if GG caught him with that sloppy head kick that he throws hunt might slightly wince, but he won't fall. Please guys watch his fights before you comment on him, don't just sherdog stat search him. Oh and no GG is not better then Cro Cop in mma, he was better on that night, look at their careers please. Not saying anything else on that subject.



lol man, i have indeed saw his fight against fedor and also a lot of is K-1 fight, i have like 350 channel and also when you pay to see an event ,i have it for free on the net !! LOL

i see him as a bigger tank abbott, a good fighter on his feet but no more.
i know that he may have been spectacular in K-1 or at some mma fight but i have to insist on the conditionning and the pace of the octogone fight who have put a lot a experience fighter and a lot of new guy completely gassed at the beginning of the second round, and after that, nothing can save them from a masacre.

and if you look at the fedor fight, he was almost completely exhauted after his failling sub, and it was almost over after that. well i may exagerate a little but he was nowhere in good shape to fight 15 min.

of course if he is able to KO all his opponent in the first 2 min. he will be good, but i can tell you that at the level of the top fighter in the ufc , they can avoid being hit specially when you fight in a huge octogone with no corner.




tuvok500
10/16/07 12:50:43AM

Posted by Adam_Buru


Posted by tuvok500

i am sorry to tell you that man, but you can't bring back crocop for every post on every subject !! LOL
crocop is indeed a 1 dimensional fighter who got destroyed 2 time in a row in the ufc and now you are telling that kongo who beated crocop will not beat hunt because crocop was not able to KO hunt, man i will do what you do so often, "kongo beated crocop, crocop beated hunt, so kongo will beat hunt"
same for GG who destroyed crocop very easely,so that put him a lot better that crocop man.

not mentioning the conditioning and the pace who is now so huge in mma.
hunt is nowhere close to a champ in ufc , maybe a good entertainment but not a champ or a title contender.





I think it depends on who is the champ at that specific time, whether Hunt could beat and become the UFC heavyweight champion. Styles make matches and stylistically Hunt matches up badly against submission fighters. Hunt is indeed a K1 level striker and I personally believe he would beat a lot of the main UFC heavyweight strikers, Kongo, Arlovski, and Sylvia. Cro Cop may have lost by KO to Gonzaga, but that doesn't mean Gonzaga is a better striker than Cro Cop. Many factors dictated Cro Cop's loss on that night, the fact that Gonzaga took him down and used elbows which were foreign to Mirko, gave him blurred vision so that when he stood up he was easily KO'ed. Gonzaga won fair and square and is an overall more complete MMA fighter than the more one dimensional Cro Cop, but he's NOT a better striker.

Point being, MMAthematics do NOT work and should never be used. Cro Cop and Hunt are K1 level strikers and that poses a real threat in the UFC despite Mirko's poor showings thus far. Hunt also has a head made out of granite and Kongo (although a very accurate striker) has not the power to trouble Hunt standing.

In conclusion....

Against strikers such as Arlovski, Kongo, Sylvia, Vera, = Hunt has a good chance of success.
Against submissions experts and intelligent ground fighters = Hunt will more than likely get pwned.

That's just my opinion anyhoo.



lol man , my mmathmathics was a joke, because i saw that so often that i decided to put it as a joke in my post !! LOL
that why i put in from on the sentence "man i will do what you do so often "

maybe it was not enough clear, well i speak french and i am not very familiar with the real commum language in english !!

lol


Adam_Buru
10/16/07 12:57:14AM

Posted by cmill21

I can agree with you Buru. I think Hunt's ground game could use work(obviously) but he did decent in his fight with Fedor, so who knows it could be improving. Nog and Werdum would be able to get a sub but it woulden't be easy, but I don't know how Werdum would get him down, and GG I don't know how he'd get him down either, since we haven't see much in the takedown department from them.



I agree 100% with you. However, I think Hunt's size (the biggest he's ever fought at, I believe) had a lot to do with his impressive ground work on Fedor, he looked like he was improving though, so who knows.
Adam_Buru
10/16/07 12:59:12AM

Posted by tuvok500

lol man , my mmathmathics was a joke, because i saw that so often that i decided to put it as a joke in my post !! LOL
that why i put in from on the sentence "man i will do what you do so often "

maybe it was not enough clear, well i speak french and i am not very familiar with the real commum language in english !!

lol





No, no, my bad, I'm new around here and didn't see the sarcasm.

Btw, I'm reading all your posts in a Georges St Pierre accent.
cmill21
10/16/07 1:02:53AM
Hunt's conditioning is ok, not great, but I don't think it would be a huge factor since he would weight less, and have one more rest period then in pride, but who knows. I was more refering to the people saying AA, Kongo, and Sylvia would dominate Hunt standing, which to me is a crazy comment.
warglory
10/16/07 12:04:31PM

Posted by tuvok500


Posted by cmill21

Lol you need to brush up on your english so you know what i'm saying lol. The reason I brought Cro Cop up was the fact that he is the only one in the UFC with the kickboxing pedigree to match Hunt's. Now if your going to comment on Hunt, do some research and acctually watch his fights, he's got some decent ground skills(nearly subbed Fedor), great kickboxing skills(he's a former K-1 champ), and he's got a head of absolute iron. I don't agree with the OP, I don't think he would be the most devastating ever, but I beleive he could make it to the title. He will have a weight advantage over most if not all the HW's, he will have better kickboxing then all but one, and he will have a decent ground game, not to mention it doesn't appear he can be KO'd since Cro Cop landed two devasting, flush head kicks, and neither KO'd him, so if GG caught him with that sloppy head kick that he throws hunt might slightly wince, but he won't fall. Please guys watch his fights before you comment on him, don't just sherdog stat search him. Oh and no GG is not better then Cro Cop in mma, he was better on that night, look at their careers please. Not saying anything else on that subject.



lol man, i have indeed saw his fight against fedor and also a lot of is K-1 fight, i have like 350 channel and also when you pay to see an event ,i have it for free on the net !! LOL

i see him as a bigger tank abbott, a good fighter on his feet but no more.
i know that he may have been spectacular in K-1 or at some mma fight but i have to insist on the conditionning and the pace of the octogone fight who have put a lot a experience fighter and a lot of new guy completely gassed at the beginning of the second round, and after that, nothing can save them from a masacre.

and if you look at the fedor fight, he was almost completely exhauted after his failling sub, and it was almost over after that. well i may exagerate a little but he was nowhere in good shape to fight 15 min.

of course if he is able to KO all his opponent in the first 2 min. he will be good, but i can tell you that at the level of the top fighter in the ufc , they can avoid being hit specially when you fight in a huge octogone with no corner.







You are comparing Mark Hunt to Tank Abbott? Might I remind you he BEAT Wandy, CroCop and TK? The man has only 8 fights under his belt! And where do you get that Hunt isn't fit enough? Because he is overweight? I don't remember seeing him slow down at all in his K-1 fights.
Mastodon2
10/16/07 2:50:41PM

Posted by tuvok500

well, greatest ufc champ in history !!!! well, i have to disagree man !!

i see, gonzaga , nog, sylvia, AA, and even kongo being able to beat him.


i will not argue that he is a big guy and very strong too, but , i think that the conditionning of the ufc fighters is a little too much for him.

i also think that the supposely REBORN crocop will be able to beat him .

sorry man LOL




Hmm, ok Gonzaga, Nogueira and AA have the submissions to beat Hunt, but lets not forget, Fedor had trouble on the ground submitting Hunt. But I've got to ask, what does Kongo have that could possibly beat Hunt? Hunt is a K-1 champ, Kongo got outstruck by Yvel, who is a decent, if a little sloppy at striking, and got taken down at will by Yvel, who isn't exactly a top notch wrestler. Yvel was nowhere near a top competitor in K-1, Hunt was. Hunt would destroy Kongo at the standup.

Let's look at the guys Hunt has beaten that are better strikers than Kongo;

Stefan Leko (twice)
Mike Bernardo
Francisco Filho
Jerome Le Banner
Cro Cop

He also had a very close fight with Ray Sefo, who is a top 10 striker.

aswell as a long list of guys who are still better than Hoost but are names you would probably not recognise.

As for saying the conditioning of UFC fighters would be too much, are you kidding me? Hunt fought and beat Leko, Le Bannner and Filho all in one night!
tuvok500
10/16/07 3:35:58PM

Posted by warglory


Posted by tuvok500


Posted by cmill21

Lol you need to brush up on your english so you know what i'm saying lol. The reason I brought Cro Cop up was the fact that he is the only one in the UFC with the kickboxing pedigree to match Hunt's. Now if your going to comment on Hunt, do some research and acctually watch his fights, he's got some decent ground skills(nearly subbed Fedor), great kickboxing skills(he's a former K-1 champ), and he's got a head of absolute iron. I don't agree with the OP, I don't think he would be the most devastating ever, but I beleive he could make it to the title. He will have a weight advantage over most if not all the HW's, he will have better kickboxing then all but one, and he will have a decent ground game, not to mention it doesn't appear he can be KO'd since Cro Cop landed two devasting, flush head kicks, and neither KO'd him, so if GG caught him with that sloppy head kick that he throws hunt might slightly wince, but he won't fall. Please guys watch his fights before you comment on him, don't just sherdog stat search him. Oh and no GG is not better then Cro Cop in mma, he was better on that night, look at their careers please. Not saying anything else on that subject.



lol man, i have indeed saw his fight against fedor and also a lot of is K-1 fight, i have like 350 channel and also when you pay to see an event ,i have it for free on the net !! LOL

i see him as a bigger tank abbott, a good fighter on his feet but no more.
i know that he may have been spectacular in K-1 or at some mma fight but i have to insist on the conditionning and the pace of the octogone fight who have put a lot a experience fighter and a lot of new guy completely gassed at the beginning of the second round, and after that, nothing can save them from a masacre.

and if you look at the fedor fight, he was almost completely exhauted after his failling sub, and it was almost over after that. well i may exagerate a little but he was nowhere in good shape to fight 15 min.

of course if he is able to KO all his opponent in the first 2 min. he will be good, but i can tell you that at the level of the top fighter in the ufc , they can avoid being hit specially when you fight in a huge octogone with no corner.







You are comparing Mark Hunt to Tank Abbott? Might I remind you he BEAT Wandy, CroCop and TK? The man has only 8 fights under his belt! And where do you get that Hunt isn't fit enough? Because he is overweight? I don't remember seeing him slow down at all in his K-1 fights.



well man, i see him as a BIGGER tank abbott, shape and style !!
of course when i read some exageration like " he will be the most devastating UFC champ in history ", you will give me the permission to exagerate a little bit myself !!!

also, i prefer to compare a fighter by analyzing how he is in the present and what he can do against a kongo of the 2007.
the mass using of the word WAS that you use , is an indication that he may have done some good thing in the past but it is not an indication of what he can do in the octogone, do i have to remenber you what crocop, shogun did !!

as for is conditioning, i will not change my mind , because the 2007 ufc pace is nowhere close to what hunt have seen before. he can be able to push the pace for the first 3 min but if he did not KO his opponent by that time, it is almost over for him.

also, i am not denie his KO power, but , let me remind you , that an octogone is like 2 time bigger than a ring and you can't trap your opponent in a corner because , well, it is an octogone !!! LOL



tuvok500
10/16/07 3:51:31PM

Posted by Mastodon2


Posted by tuvok500

well, greatest ufc champ in history !!!! well, i have to disagree man !!

i see, gonzaga , nog, sylvia, AA, and even kongo being able to beat him.


i will not argue that he is a big guy and very strong too, but , i think that the conditionning of the ufc fighters is a little too much for him.

i also think that the supposely REBORN crocop will be able to beat him .

sorry man LOL




Hmm, ok Gonzaga, Nogueira and AA have the submissions to beat Hunt, but lets not forget, Fedor had trouble on the ground submitting Hunt. But I've got to ask, what does Kongo have that could possibly beat Hunt? Hunt is a K-1 champ, Kongo got outstruck by Yvel, who is a decent, if a little sloppy at striking, and got taken down at will by Yvel, who isn't exactly a top notch wrestler. Yvel was nowhere near a top competitor in K-1, Hunt was. Hunt would destroy Kongo at the standup.

Let's look at the guys Hunt has beaten that are better strikers than Kongo;

Stefan Leko (twice)
Mike Bernardo
Francisco Filho
Jerome Le Banner
Cro Cop

He also had a very close fight with Ray Sefo, who is a top 10 striker.

aswell as a long list of guys who are still better than Hoost but are names you would probably not recognise.

As for saying the conditioning of UFC fighters would be too much, are you kidding me? Hunt fought and beat Leko, Le Bannner and Filho all in one night!



man, like a said in another post, i prefer to analyze a guy by what he is in the present and what he can do against a , lets say kongo of 2007.

if what he did before was a good indication of what he can do in the octogone, well, crocop would have destroyed everybody and shogun would have destroyed forrest very easely, you are seeing only what hunt did in the pass and you don't look at what his supposely opponent are doing in the present man, fighters are evolving and some fighters who got beated in the past , can be much better in 2007 than they were before.

so , i think hunt has not evolve very much since his good victory that you mentionning, and at the opposite , i see what kongo or jackson are now with a new camp and better training method. ( i know , jackson is not a HW )

also, if you did not see how the pace of the ufc fight have evolved since 2 or 3 years , well, i will have to ask you if you follow the same event of me !! LOL

a little joke !!!


NatedawgThaM
10/16/07 4:52:38PM
This is a stupid thread. he could be the most devastating striker in the HW division just because of that power behind his weight...

but Big Nog would easily dominate him with Jab boxing and then take him down and submit him easily...

Vera and Gonzaga will do the same thing just not as easy. Big Nog is now unstoppable, Vera & Gonzaga is his only competition..

It's the Big Nog era, deal wit it..
warglory
10/16/07 9:48:06PM

Posted by NatedawgThaM

This is a stupid thread. he could be the most devastating striker in the HW division just because of that power behind his weight...

but Big Nog would easily dominate him with Jab boxing and then take him down and submit him easily...

Vera and Gonzaga will do the same thing just not as easy. Big Nog is now unstoppable, Vera & Gonzaga is his only competition..

It's the Big Nog era, deal wit it..



Who the hell jabs with Mark Hunt? Mark Hunt is good at distance fighting with his hooks and kicks, and also has a vicious uppercut, great knees and a respectable clinch. When do you propose Nog will be doing this peppering with jabs to distract him for a take down?
Ultimate_fighter
10/16/07 9:57:01PM
I think he would die in the ufc, literally fall down in the center of the octagon and have a heartattack!
tuvok500
10/16/07 10:20:41PM

Posted by Ultimate_fighter

I think he would die in the ufc, literally fall down in the center of the octagon and have a heartattack!





man, this one was so unexpected !!!

cmill21
10/17/07 1:25:15AM

Posted by Ultimate_fighter

I think he would die in the ufc, literally fall down in the center of the octagon and have a heartattack!



Only way kongo beats him....lol
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