Posted by gartface
Posted by thunderstruck
carwin easily knocked out ?isnt he 12 and 0 ? i guess you meant easily rocked maybe ? i see carwin as having a good chance as well but would still see it as somewhat an upset to see lesnar lose to him . however , id venture to assume carwin has a bit more power to the punch than mir , and mir even rocked lesnar on the very brief second round exchange on the feet at ufc 100 . carwin land s flush as brock shoots i see carwin taking it ...if it comes to wrestling , although carwin is no slouch either in that regarde , i see it being a descision win or late stoppage for brock ...good call though all the same . he certainly would be in around lesnars size , which would be refreshing to see for a change . instead of brock having 40 lbs on fight night against every one he faces . cause there hws they look at it as its fair , but can you imagine a silva beating down guys like kenflo and being recognized as the best in class ? it is somewhat insane and very unfair .
Grammar aside, has Carwin faced someone with the punching power of Brock? Don't think so, and if Brock was to land clean shots like Gonzaga and Wain did to Carwin, I see him on his back with his toes curled. His head movement is way too stiff and that is going to be his ultimate downfall. Not saying Brock has the best head movement, but he knows how to pick and choose his battles on the feet and doesn't over-commit to exchanges. When he's in trouble he has unstoppable takedowns that even Carwin and his "equal" wrestling can't stop. The guy couldn't stop a takedown from Gabriel Gonzaga. Granted he got up in about 30 seconds, he wasn't being held down by someone Brock's size or strength.
As for the weight class argument, are you suggesting that there be a separate weight class for every 15-20 pounds over 205? That becomes rather tedious and would make for even less talent in the heavyweight division(s). By the way Kenny Florian used to be a middleweight...
ok . i didnt see anything grammar wise wrong with my above post , so im not sure what your getting at in that regarde ? agreed carwin hasnt faced what i would consider big time punchers either .granted .but neither has brock . brock has alot of weight to throw into his punches , but all the same , when have you ever seen lesnar clean ko anyone thus far with one shot ko power ? he pins guys down and hits them with about 20 shots and gets ref stoppages , not one punch on the feet lala land type kos ...lesnar is a beast , very strong , and has power , i admit . one shot ko power has yet to be proven and as of right now i feel hes overated in that regarde .
i never said carwin s wrestling was equal to brocks , i said hes no slouche , but if it came down to wrestling being the decided factor , i stated brock wins it ?
and this is addressing your comment on my opinion on the weight class thing . no , i dont think there should be 10-15 lb weight classes at hw . but maybe a 206-to 250 wouldnt be so bad and a super hw class of 251-300 . i know and am aware that there wouldnt be enough talent to support the shw class as of now , however that dosnt make it any more fair to have men like couture giving up 50 plus lbs on fight night to defend his title . kenflo was a 185 er on tuf ...most guys fight one to 2 classes above there ideal classes just to get on the show . kenflo has no business at 185 and is a true 155 er .come on man , dont get lost in the example , you know what my message was .