Man Dies After Online Sparring Challenge

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FastKnockout
12/23/11 4:24:12PM
If you spend time at MMA forums for any length of time you'll see people challenging others to get together and spar or even looking for people to spar with just "for practice." While most of these are just guys spouting nonsense because that's half of the reason the internet exists, there are times where the people involved are serious and it can lead to dangerous situations.

From OregonLive.com:

Investigators are looking into the death of a Chicago man who died after a two-day series of sparring matches with a Vancouver man he met in an online chat room.

Salvador Flamenco, 38, came to Vancouver on Dec. 15 after arranging the fights with the unidentified Vancouver resident through a website, www.allfighters.com, said Sgt. Scott Creager of the Vancouver Police Department. The pair decided to spar at the Vancouver man's home.

The two men fought that day and the next, but after the second day of boxing, Flamenco started complaining of dizziness and nausea, Creager said. The symptoms became more severe and by the time paramedics arrived, Flamenco had begun losing consciousness.

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After an autopsy, the Clark County Medical Examiner's Office said Flamenco died of blunt-force injuries and ruled the death a homicide, prompting an investigation by police.

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Poor_Franklin
12/23/11 4:29:11PM
i was going to challenge one of you guys to a sparring match, but i feared the same would happen to one of you
ryu99
12/23/11 4:57:50PM

Posted by Poor_Franklin

i was going to challenge one of you guys to a sparring match, but i feared the same would happen to one of you



dont you think ur comments are a lil inappropriate ?
Budgellism
12/23/11 5:05:43PM

Posted by ryu99


Posted by Poor_Franklin

i was going to challenge one of you guys to a sparring match, but i feared the same would happen to one of you



dont you think ur comments are a lil inappropriate ?



I see where you're coming from but this death is a direct result of an extremely stupid human being making an extremely stupid choice.

EDIT: I might come off as a little harsh there but seriously. Who does this? Who sets up a meeting to spar with a guy you have never met before who lives in a different country? And then spars too hard for too long two days in a row in that guy's house. Not even a gym, the guy's house... I mean come on.
jjeans
12/23/11 5:11:35PM

Posted by Poor_Franklin

i was going to challenge one of you guys to a sparring match, but i feared the same would happen to one of you



Come on man, we all know you wouldn't land anything on me

Poor_Franklin
12/23/11 5:15:51PM

Posted by ryu99


Posted by Poor_Franklin

i was going to challenge one of you guys to a sparring match, but i feared the same would happen to one of you



dont you think ur comments are a lil inappropriate ?





i joke on here like i joke w/ my friends. i'm sorry it hit you so personal. i promise i would never try to murder someone on this site.
ghandikush
12/23/11 5:22:23PM

Posted by ryu99


Posted by Poor_Franklin

i was going to challenge one of you guys to a sparring match, but i feared the same would happen to one of you



dont you think ur comments are a lil inappropriate ?



I dont. And it would happen to you too, just not from me.... I am a big fat sloppy pussy.

Inapropriate.
Budgellism
12/23/11 6:05:52PM

Posted by ghandikush


Posted by ryu99


Posted by Poor_Franklin

i was going to challenge one of you guys to a sparring match, but i feared the same would happen to one of you



dont you think ur comments are a lil inappropriate ?



I dont. And it would happen to you too, just not from me.... I am a big fat sloppy pussy.

Inapropriate.



Come on man, don't be so hard on yourself! Who doesn't love a big, fat, sloppy pussy?
kopower
12/23/11 6:34:55PM

Posted by Budgellism


Posted by ghandikush


Posted by ryu99


Posted by Poor_Franklin

i was going to challenge one of you guys to a sparring match, but i feared the same would happen to one of you



dont you think ur comments are a lil inappropriate ?



I dont. And it would happen to you too, just not from me.... I am a big fat sloppy pussy.

Inapropriate.



Come on man, don't be so hard on yourself! Who doesn't love a big, fat, sloppy pussy?



Nothing about this sounds good to me
ryu99
12/23/11 6:46:14PM

Posted by ghandikush


Posted by ryu99


Posted by Poor_Franklin

i was going to challenge one of you guys to a sparring match, but i feared the same would happen to one of you



dont you think ur comments are a lil inappropriate ?



I dont. And it would happen to you too, just not from me.... I am a big fat sloppy pussy.

Inapropriate.



maybe if i was stupid enough to do that but im not . Im not deff the guy it was a bad choice i was just saying making light of some ones death isnt very funny and i have a very crude sense of humor lol
Aether
12/23/11 6:47:51PM

Posted by Budgellism


Posted by ryu99


Posted by Poor_Franklin

i was going to challenge one of you guys to a sparring match, but i feared the same would happen to one of you



dont you think ur comments are a lil inappropriate ?



I see where you're coming from but this death is a direct result of an extremely stupid human being making an extremely stupid choice.

EDIT: I might come off as a little harsh there but seriously. Who does this? Who sets up a meeting to spar with a guy you have never met before who lives in a different country? And then spars too hard for too long two days in a row in that guy's house. Not even a gym, the guy's house... I mean come on.



I agree, and I don't think it's harsh. These guys are a pair of morons. He didn't deserve to die for his stupidity, but he also doesn't really deserve any sympathy either, because he caused his own death through unbelievable stupidity, and helps make the sport look horrible for the real athletes who are training properly.
JoeWarren33
12/23/11 7:11:21PM
You guys crack me up!
Its a serious issue but not really lol
The jokes, I found funny. Then the replies even got better. Fat sloppy pussy lol
ah you guys are great.

As for the two guys who met. Very weird. And exactly, who even does this? You meet someone guy and travel across the country to spare? You sure this wasnt a gay site who like it rough?
Very weird....and funny..just not the part of this guy dying...
MaxOne
12/23/11 7:42:16PM

Posted by ryu99


Posted by Poor_Franklin

i was going to challenge one of you guys to a sparring match, but i feared the same would happen to one of you



dont you think ur comments are a lil inappropriate ?



I don't. I cracked up.
MaxOne
12/23/11 7:44:20PM

Posted by Poor_Franklin


Posted by ryu99


Posted by Poor_Franklin

i was going to challenge one of you guys to a sparring match, but i feared the same would happen to one of you



dont you think ur comments are a lil inappropriate ?





i joke on here like i joke w/ my friends. i'm sorry it hit you so personal. i promise i would never try to murder someone on this site.




just made me laugh a 2nd time and then a third when I saw his "location."
kingsmasher
12/23/11 10:32:37PM

Posted by ryu99


Posted by Poor_Franklin

i was going to challenge one of you guys to a sparring match, but i feared the same would happen to one of you



dont you think ur comments are a lil inappropriate ?




Well its abit unappropriate but no where different than someone telling a joke like Rashad did....Am I right? but some reason I really took Rashads lighter...Because I visualize maybe this guy sparring and the other guy beating the hell out of him and then finally letting up...We do not know the facts...Maybe they talked for months...Maybe words who knows but I know one thing...

You have to be really careful with anyone you meet online...Anyone...
40ouncetpkid
12/24/11 12:52:27AM
Hahaha this is funny to me only because me and my friends use to "ufc" fight all the time in high school. We were professional tho UFC rules just no elbows. This dude was probably just being a jackass trying to show off, We had fun since they were mostly grappling matches since the fat kids kept laying on us

Seriously though, nobody stands a chance against my flying gogoplata...
KungFuMaster
12/24/11 1:01:34AM
Shawn911, where you at? Come at me, bro!
bjj1605
12/24/11 1:53:33AM

Posted by ryu99


Posted by Poor_Franklin

i was going to challenge one of you guys to a sparring match, but i feared the same would happen to one of you



dont you think ur comments are a lil inappropriate ?



You're right. He's out of the UFC for f**king good (insert Dana White voice).






Posted by jjeans


Posted by Poor_Franklin

i was going to challenge one of you guys to a sparring match, but i feared the same would happen to one of you



Come on man, we all know you wouldn't land anything on me




I literally sat and watched this gif for 5 minutes. That man is inhuman. I don't understand how anyone can not like him.

KungFuMaster
12/24/11 3:37:54AM

Posted by Poor_Franklin



i promise i would never try to murder someone on this site.



I am glad you are speaking for yourself only.

Holy Neptune! I will now be the number one suspect if any of you should suddenly disappear without a trace.
jjeans
12/24/11 5:03:23AM

Posted by bjj1605


Posted by ryu99


Posted by Poor_Franklin

i was going to challenge one of you guys to a sparring match, but i feared the same would happen to one of you



dont you think ur comments are a lil inappropriate ?



You're right. He's out of the UFC for f**king good (insert Dana White voice).






Posted by jjeans


Posted by Poor_Franklin

i was going to challenge one of you guys to a sparring match, but i feared the same would happen to one of you



Come on man, we all know you wouldn't land anything on me




I literally sat and watched this gif for 5 minutes. You are just inhuman. I don't understand how anyone can not like you.




Fixed Thanks man
cowcatcher
12/24/11 12:35:00PM
A 38 year old that dies after flying to spar with someone he met online = natural selection. It's a shame a life was lost, but it's a wonder he made it that long if he thought that flying out there to spar was a good idea on any level.
airkerma
12/24/11 12:54:07PM

Posted by Poor_Franklin

i was going to challenge one of you guys to a sparring match, but i feared the same would happen to one of you


Oh please PF, you would just end up with another hilarious avatar.
tallica62
12/24/11 1:35:40PM
I challenge you to a virtual match... *jab jab hook low kick haduuuken*
Aether
12/24/11 4:10:36PM

Posted by bjj1605


Posted by ryu99


Posted by Poor_Franklin

i was going to challenge one of you guys to a sparring match, but i feared the same would happen to one of you



dont you think ur comments are a lil inappropriate ?



You're right. He's out of the UFC for f**king good (insert Dana White voice).






Posted by jjeans


Posted by Poor_Franklin

i was going to challenge one of you guys to a sparring match, but i feared the same would happen to one of you



Come on man, we all know you wouldn't land anything on me




I literally sat and watched this gif for 5 minutes. That man is inhuman. I don't understand how anyone can not like him.




Yeah, me too. It's hypnotic. How can a human actually do that in a real fight, he's like a hero from an action movie or something, it's just stupid.
prozacnation1978
12/25/11 3:36:03AM
Meeting girls from online I love to do
Meeting a guy online no way!!!!!
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