Posted by ajp10k
Askren can takedown GSP. If koscheck can, Aksren can.
I actually do believe that in two or three years, Askren might improve enough to defeat GSP. As of right now, though I do believe that Askren is a better pure wrestler than GSP is, granted, as we all know, GSP never had an actual wrestling background, it's just something he picked up along the way of developing his MMA game. Here's the reason why, imo, Askren would really have trouble taking GSP down at this point in his career, and it has nothing to do with GSP being too good with TDD, and GSP is on top of the world, and all that stuff you normally hear, it's because of how early in his MMA career it is with Askren right now. If you watch his fights, yes, his wrestling is unbelievable, and his tenacity and never give up attitude when he shoots on someone and they defend the initial attempt, yet he keeps driving forward until he succeeds, is very impressive. Equally impressive is his ability to seemingly always find some form of funky looking round-about way of ending up in a dominant position, as well as how active he is on top, always moving around and always peppering them a little bit then all of a sudden he moves to another position, peppers them a little bit more, then repeats, always keeping this opponents on their toes. Now that is what you see when you're just watching his fights relatively casually as a fan imo.
Now here is what you see if you watch his fights with a more objective and analytical MMA fan's perspective: You see a VERY talented wrestler, who, like all wrestlers in the beginning of their MMA career, is still trying to make the necessary adjustments to translate their style of wrestling into the MMA world. A lot of people see wrestling credentials and just say, hey, this dude is going to be taking EVERYONE down and pounding on them while they lie helplessly on their backs. Then you see his first few fights against guys with pretty good TDD, and he struggles to take them down and then you just think, "well maybe he wasn't as good a wrestler as we thought he was". Fast forward about a year or two, and this guy is doing exactly what he was supposed to have been able to do when he first started and he is putting people on their backs and pounding them into the canvas. Why? Because he learned how to adapt his wrestling into the MMA world.
That is exactly why, at this point, Askren would have trouble putting GSP on his back. With his messed up and unorthodox style of wrestling, he will be damn near unstoppable once he learns how to make that style effective in MMA. He is very intelligent, and uses that to fuel his creativity when trying to take people down, always thinking and always trying things that no one has ever seen before once he gets a hold of a guy, and its that kind of creative wrestling that will give people a lot of problems imo. His wrestling is comparable to Machida's and probably even more so, Jardine's striking. It's so unorthodox and so weird looking that it's hard to adjust to, and it throws a lot of people off, and that's the kind of guy that could pose problems for GSP in the future. You've got to try and find a way to throw GSP for a loop and take away his confidence in the fact that he is always in control of the nature of the fight. It would be interesting to see how GSP adjusts to that kind of situation.
Anyway, that is my take on Askren. Long winded I know, but I wanted to try and be as in-depth as possible in conveying my thoughts in a way that isn't confusing. I do agree with what someone said earlier, and I to believe that some day down the road, Askren is going to be a phenomenal fighter. Right now though, he is just putting together all the pieces of the puzzle to his MMA game.