Making the case for Evan Tanner to be inducted into the UFC Hall of Fame

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MMAcca
12/17/08 2:18:40AM
During a public Q&A last week at the Sports USA Bar in Fort Bragg, North Carolina, UFC President Dana White revealed that the promotion is expected to decide soon on which fighter will be inducted into its Hall of Fame.



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Manfred
12/17/08 5:41:25AM
Not to be cold-hearted, but if he hadn't died, would he inducted? Probably not. At least not yet. We've had a ton of HoF threads on here and his name is barely ever mentioned.

We tend to over-memorialize. I liked Tanner and his death was sad, but JFK wasn't one of the best presidents either.
TheNatural915
12/17/08 7:36:20AM
I can see your point, but don't look at his recent career, years back he was a great fighter and if you remember Tanner by those days then yes he should be inducted.
Jackelope
12/17/08 8:10:21AM
I've been saying he should be a HoF since long before he was dead (just check the history on these forums)

The guy has a ton of fights in the UFC, and he's got a pretty good record in those fights. He helped build the sport and he was a champion, so why not?
ohiostate1016
12/17/08 8:49:20AM
Like the guy said in the article, Tanner is a throwback to the days when the sport was in its infancy.

Tanner wasn't the greatest person out there, but he knew to quit when he lost control of his life. I like Tanner because he's a man who did it his way, and he's a man who always gave everything he had in each and every fight. He'd fight Anderson Silva the same way that he'd fight Andy Wang, and he'd probably get destroyed by Anderson but would destroy Wang. But he'd be in there against Silva, and there is no way in hell that he'd give up.

I think that Dana realizes what a pioneer Evan Tanner was, and he realizes that if he doesn't recognize Tanner that it may never happen. I see the UFC as a class organization, and I think they'll make the best move here.

War Tanner.
Wallass
12/17/08 9:29:00AM
Not to be cold-hearted, but if he hadn't died, would he inducted? Probably not. At least not yet. We've had a ton of HoF threads on here and his name is barely ever mentioned.

We tend to over-memorialize. I liked Tanner and his death was sad, but JFK wasn't one of the best presidents either.

I completely disagree. Tanner would have and should have made the hall of fame whether he died or not. He was the Middleweight champ and one of the best, in his prime. I think most people think that because he lost his last two fights in the ufc, that he was overated but he definitely deserves to be in there. I mean come on, Ken Shamrock is.
cowcatcher
12/17/08 10:17:20AM

Posted by Wallass

I completely disagree. Tanner would have and should have made the hall of fame whether he died or not. He was the Middleweight champ and one of the best, in his prime. I think most people think that because he lost his last two fights in the ufc, that he was overated but he definitely deserves to be in there. I mean come on, Ken Shamrock is.



im sorry but this is just a terrible argument. "he was overrated but he deserves to be there"???????, if hes overrated then why should he get in? and to say ken is there so evan should be is ludicrous, ken every bit deserves to be in the HoF he was the original american pioneer of the sport.

as far as my opinion, im with jackelope, ive been saying since before evan died that he should be the next hall member after miletich. im glad that the author mentioned his fight with minowa which was a huge win at the time, and also the fact that he was the first neo blood pancrase champ. an american going overseas and getting recognition in a sport that was much bigger there than here at the time is a trailblazing thing and that along with the fact that he was a UFC champ, had as many fights in the octagon as almost anyone, and was one of the early well rounded fighters are reasons why evan should get in.
Franklinfan47
12/17/08 10:47:11AM
Tanner was awesome, but I don't think he should be the HOF personally. He held the title once and didn't even defend it that many times. Tanner should be commended for his warrior spirit, and his positive outlook on life and in the octagon, but lets be honest, if he hadn't of died I doubt anyone would have even considered putting him in there. I don't even think Rich Franklin has an automatic spot yet, and he crushed Tanner twice. I mean look at my name.
Hendo67
12/17/08 2:40:31PM
I agree with what most people stated above, If he hadn't have died he would not be inducted this year at least.
The same thing happened with Eddie Guerrero in the WWE, he died...and that same year he was inducted into the hall of fame.

Evan will eventually be there, I just don't think it should be now...let a year or two pass. IMO
Jackelope
12/17/08 2:43:23PM

Posted by cowcatcher


Posted by Wallass

I completely disagree. Tanner would have and should have made the hall of fame whether he died or not. He was the Middleweight champ and one of the best, in his prime. I think most people think that because he lost his last two fights in the ufc, that he was overated but he definitely deserves to be in there. I mean come on, Ken Shamrock is.



im sorry but this is just a terrible argument. "he was overrated but he deserves to be there"???????, if hes overrated then why should he get in? and to say ken is there so evan should be is ludicrous, ken every bit deserves to be in the HoF he was the original american pioneer of the sport.

as far as my opinion, im with jackelope, ive been saying since before evan died that he should be the next hall member after miletich. im glad that the author mentioned his fight with minowa which was a huge win at the time, and also the fact that he was the first neo blood pancrase champ. an american going overseas and getting recognition in a sport that was much bigger there than here at the time is a trailblazing thing and that along with the fact that he was a UFC champ, had as many fights in the octagon as almost anyone, and was one of the early well rounded fighters are reasons why evan should get in.



Another thing is the win over David Terrell. I know it may not seem much to a fan now, but for those watching back then it was a huge upset. David Terrell was supposed to be the new breed of fighter, and Tanner completely embarassed him out there. Just demolished him. That was a huge victory IMO

I just think based on number of fights in the UFC, having held a belt, and what he did for the sport should be enough. Record in those fights completely aside. To be completely honest I'm a bit offended that people think he wouldn't be mentioned if he hadn't of died.

Then again, my sig is a quote from Evan Tanner. So assume my nut huggery if you will
jiujitsufreak74
12/17/08 2:45:33PM
If they vote tank in, then Tanner should without a doubt get in.

from 2000 to February of 2005, his UFC record was 8-2, with wins over Lawler Baroni (x2) and David Terrell and his only two losses were to Tito and Franklin.

i personally don't think he should be in the HoF, but it is close enough where i wouldn't mind if he was put in.
Wallass
12/17/08 3:08:01PM

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Posted by Wallass

I completely disagree. Tanner would have and should have made the hall of fame whether he died or not. He was the Middleweight champ and one of the best, in his prime. I think most people think that because he lost his last two fights in the ufc, that he was overated but he definitely deserves to be in there. I mean come on, Ken Shamrock is.
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im sorry but this is just a terrible argument. "he was overrated but he deserves to be there"???????, if hes overrated then why should he get in? and to say ken is there so evan should be is ludicrous, ken every bit deserves to be in the HoF he was the original american pioneer of the sport.

as far as my opinion, im with jackelope, ive been saying since before evan died that he should be the next hall member after miletich. im glad that the author mentioned his fight with minowa which was a huge win at the time, and also the fact that he was the first neo blood pancrase champ. an american going overseas and getting recognition in a sport that was much bigger there than here at the time is a trailblazing thing and that along with the fact that he was a UFC champ, had as many fights in the octagon as almost anyone, and was one of the early well rounded fighters are reasons why evan should get in.
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Dude re read things. And dont quote me on stuff I never said. I never said he was overated I said people think that. In this day of "What have you done for me lately?" And yeah that Terrel fight was awesome. One of the best comebacks of all time. Dont get so offensive buddy.
cowcatcher
12/17/08 4:03:09PM
well i wasnt trying to be offensive or defensive(i think thats what you meant). i reread your post and it still doesnt make sense to me. i dont know anyone that said "he was overated but he definitely deserves to be in there"(thats a direct quote), it just doesnt make sense at all, and thats what i was getting at.
telnights
12/17/08 4:16:21PM
For anyone to say Tanner shouldn't be in the HOF or wouldn't be considered if he wasn't dead wasn't around in the early days of MMA. Tanner was a great fighter and a trail blazer in the sport. Slashing elbows back in the day were called Tanner elbows for a reason. Tanner is deserving of being in the hall of fame and was long before he passed.
Wolfenstein
12/17/08 4:18:40PM
"Some people think he was overrated, but he definetely deserves to be there" I think that was the quote, when you take "some people think" out it sounds a little different lol.

I'm with Manfred on this one. Evan never really dominated in the UFC. Dan Severn (was dominant), Ken Shamrock (pioneer), Royce Gracie (dominant), Mark Coleman (dominant), Randy Couture (has beaten some of the best). You look at those guys in the UFC HOF and they were absolutely dominating the UFC for a time, except for Ken who was a pioneer and the first Super Fight Champion. Evan's accomplishments in the UFC just don't come close to rivaling the current HOF fighters.

I have great admiration for Evan, but I just don't believe that his accomplishments in the UFC stack up to the other HOF members.
Gipper
12/17/08 4:33:56PM
i think he deserves it.
17 ufc fights- 11 ufc wins- ufc mw champ
i don't think there are any retired ufc vets with these credentials
put him in the hall of fame not because he just passed but because he is one of the great ufc fighters
MMA
12/17/08 5:59:22PM
Anyone else thought that the tribute to Tanner was downright shameful?
Manfred
12/17/08 10:13:11PM
I didn't mean he doesn't deserve consideration. I just was saying there are a bunch of guys who deserve it more or before him.

F. Shamrock, Miletich, Mo Smith, Don Frye, Tito and Big John McCarthy all come to mind.
Sledge23
12/18/08 5:00:35PM
Its horrible that he died, dont get me wrong. but just becuase you feel bad about something that happened doesnt mean you put him in the hall of fame. There are alot of ways to honor Evan Tanner, but he doesnt deserve the HOF.
How about the UFC Medal of Honor
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