Mad Beef Between King Mo and Rampage

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ufc88
7/16/09 7:53:11PM
I cant embed the videos because there are so many, but visit this youtube page and youll see how a CageFighter car ride to an autograph signing turns into a heated argument between King Mo and Rampage

http://www.youtube.com/user/FightLaunch
BrutalKnockOut
7/16/09 10:30:24PM
Which video in particular are you referring to?

That being said, Rampage sounds like an absolute moron in these videos.
saem-skin
7/16/09 10:47:19PM
is that the first video of rampage you have seen then? this is how he is...not the smartest and most eloquent guy in the world. Funny at times, but I would get tired of his mouth reeeeeeeaaaly fast.
BSurely
7/16/09 10:53:31PM
Ya Skin, those videos are like any other rampage video clip.... I personally don't get tired of him talking ****. I think he's a funny ass dude. There is no hardcore beef between Mo and Page.... I wouldn't classify it as that. It was just some good natured **** talking.
warglory
7/16/09 11:40:53PM
I really want to see Rampage get into some smack talk with Matt Serra. That would be entertaining as hell.
BarryScott
7/17/09 12:11:03AM

Posted by warglory

I really want to see Rampage get into some smack talk with Matt Serra. That would be entertaining as hell.



Matt Serra's stupid voice saying "Hes just a dick" would get old reaaaaaal fast.
shevtheman
7/17/09 7:46:15AM
I cant make out whats going on...anyone explain?
prozacnation1978
7/17/09 9:52:44AM
it was funny but king mo needs to shut his mouth, if he wants to fight real fighters he needs to get his butt in the octagon
Brain_Smasher
7/17/09 10:07:47AM
Well i see both of there points. QJ was pissed because he heard Mo tell someone he is the best. That didnt go over well since they are the same weight class. But all fighters need to think they are the best. It goes with the territory.

I like Qj but he seems to always be running his mouth like he cant stop. The one thing i always have disliked about him is he is funny but he is always funny at other peoples expenses. Look back at his career. He had the recent interview with the Hot reporter, he has a dvd out where he is making fun of Japanese girls "grill" in a shopping mall, he announced during one of the KOTC events and all he did was make jokes about Dan Severn and the opponent. Now he is in this video trying to be funny at Mo's expense. Qj is a clever guy and entertaining. But he is very disrespectful. He needs to realize there is more types of humor than just Yo Mamma jokes.


At least they both admit the Japanese promotions are full of crap liars who make stuff up. Its rare they ever admit it while still under contract. Bob Sapp was listed as being 6'7 400 lbs when he fought in Pride the first time. He was really 6'3 350. One of the reason i never took Pride serious as a promotion.
Brain_Smasher
7/17/09 10:19:22AM

Posted by prozacnation1978

it was funny but king mo needs to shut his mouth, if he wants to fight real fighters he needs to get his butt in the octagon




Agree. To many guys are out there putting on a show like they are the top dog. Right now Mo is fighting no namers just for the "easy" payday. Thats fine. But dont go around claiming to be a stud when you dont want to ask for a tough fight. You cant have your cake and eat it too. To many fighters are actually out there fighting and beating the best.
Mayhem13
7/17/09 12:59:47PM

Posted by Brain_Smasher


Posted by prozacnation1978

it was funny but king mo needs to shut his mouth, if he wants to fight real fighters he needs to get his butt in the octagon




Agree. To many guys are out there putting on a show like they are the top dog. Right now Mo is fighting no namers just for the "easy" payday. Thats fine. But dont go around claiming to be a stud when you dont want to ask for a tough fight. You cant have your cake and eat it too. To many fighters are actually out there fighting and beating the best.



I wouldn't say Mo is fighting nobodies...the first fight of the dudes career was against Travi Wuiff who had almost 50 fights, and a good winning percentage.

After his fight with Severn next month, he will be a free agent...so maybe he will end up in the UFC. But dude only has 4 fights so far, he doesn't need to be fighting top notch guys yet.
Irish_Pride
7/17/09 1:07:25PM
Haha who the hell is that white guy in the back that just broke out singing "Kumbaya, My lord"?
Brain_Smasher
7/17/09 3:48:29PM
Yes he is fighting nobodies. Wiuff was a good opponent. But instead of building him up with simular level fighters. He got a heavy dose of Japanese who were smaller and not very good at all. So now after 4 fights and a ton of hype he has no idea how good he is because he hasnt been tested. Thats why you can tell he is mentally beat arguing with QJ. He even says he isnt the best or even ready for them. IMO, he has no confidence because he hasnt fought anyone. Mo should have been given better and better fighters like Cain Vasquez has been handled. Instead he fought worse fighters with each fight. And now he is supposed to fight 50 year old Severn. lol.

If this was a small promotion or Mo was just getting started and wasnt sure how good he was. That would be different. But he is in a huge promotion and he has already had a fight that shows he ready for the next step. Nothing against him but he needs to be handled better or he needs to ask for bigger fights before telling a reporter he is the best in the world.
mikevolz
7/22/09 4:04:49AM

Posted by Brain_Smasher

Yes he is fighting nobodies. Wiuff was a good opponent. But instead of building him up with simular level fighters. He got a heavy dose of Japanese who were smaller and not very good at all. So now after 4 fights and a ton of hype he has no idea how good he is because he hasnt been tested. Thats why you can tell he is mentally beat arguing with QJ. He even says he isnt the best or even ready for them. IMO, he has no confidence because he hasnt fought anyone. Mo should have been given better and better fighters like Cain Vasquez has been handled. Instead he fought worse fighters with each fight. And now he is supposed to fight 50 year old Severn. lol.

If this was a small promotion or Mo was just getting started and wasnt sure how good he was. That would be different. But he is in a huge promotion and he has already had a fight that shows he ready for the next step. Nothing against him but he needs to be handled better or he needs to ask for bigger fights before telling a reporter he is the best in the world.



miguel torres first 4 opponents combined record at time of fights = 3-3

mike thomas brown = 0-1

urijah faber = 28-10

quinton jackson = 2-6

king mo = 89-22-5

everybody hes fought has had a winning record with over 15 fights experience each.

and he's fighting don frye, not dan severn.

Brain_Smasher
7/23/09 8:47:18AM

Posted by mikevolz


Posted by Brain_Smasher

Yes he is fighting nobodies. Wiuff was a good opponent. But instead of building him up with simular level fighters. He got a heavy dose of Japanese who were smaller and not very good at all. So now after 4 fights and a ton of hype he has no idea how good he is because he hasnt been tested. Thats why you can tell he is mentally beat arguing with QJ. He even says he isnt the best or even ready for them. IMO, he has no confidence because he hasnt fought anyone. Mo should have been given better and better fighters like Cain Vasquez has been handled. Instead he fought worse fighters with each fight. And now he is supposed to fight 50 year old Severn. lol.

If this was a small promotion or Mo was just getting started and wasnt sure how good he was. That would be different. But he is in a huge promotion and he has already had a fight that shows he ready for the next step. Nothing against him but he needs to be handled better or he needs to ask for bigger fights before telling a reporter he is the best in the world.



miguel torres first 4 opponents combined record at time of fights = 3-3

mike thomas brown = 0-1

urijah faber = 28-10

quinton jackson = 2-6

king mo = 89-22-5

everybody hes fought has had a winning record with over 15 fights experience each.

and he's fighting don frye, not dan severn.







You are missing the point.

Mo beat a quality fighter. The other guys you named did not. They won some fights then gradually fought better people. Mo has had a good win over Wiuff. He should be fighting people at that level and working himself up to prepare for top contenders. Not going down in competition and taking meaningless fights. Im not saying he should jump in with Fedor. But show some attempt to become a top fighter and not just be content on the Japanese turning you into a circus act. Which they will if you allow them.

Example.

QJ got his first big win over a good fighter in his 18th fight.(He was -2 vs name guys before). After his win over Igor Volvchanchin he went on to face 6 top Pride star in his next 8 fights. But when he lost early in hsi career to top guys he fougt lessor comp. But when you win big you step it up.

The same goes with Faber. Once he beat his first name fighter in Ivan Majivar. You can see a consistant increase in skill level of his opponent.



Mike Brown is a little different. He has a steady dose of name and cans on his resume. The reason is he wasnt in a promotion very long. He was fighting like Jeremy Horn. Taking any fight in any promotion verses anyone. Just trying to get paid. This is probabely why he didnt find great success until now when he is in his mid 30's.


Look how the UFC handled Brock. He beat
mikevolz
7/23/09 2:04:06PM

Posted by Brain_Smasher


Posted by mikevolz


Posted by Brain_Smasher

Yes he is fighting nobodies. Wiuff was a good opponent. But instead of building him up with simular level fighters. He got a heavy dose of Japanese who were smaller and not very good at all. So now after 4 fights and a ton of hype he has no idea how good he is because he hasnt been tested. Thats why you can tell he is mentally beat arguing with QJ. He even says he isnt the best or even ready for them. IMO, he has no confidence because he hasnt fought anyone. Mo should have been given better and better fighters like Cain Vasquez has been handled. Instead he fought worse fighters with each fight. And now he is supposed to fight 50 year old Severn. lol.

If this was a small promotion or Mo was just getting started and wasnt sure how good he was. That would be different. But he is in a huge promotion and he has already had a fight that shows he ready for the next step. Nothing against him but he needs to be handled better or he needs to ask for bigger fights before telling a reporter he is the best in the world.



miguel torres first 4 opponents combined record at time of fights = 3-3

mike thomas brown = 0-1

urijah faber = 28-10

quinton jackson = 2-6

king mo = 89-22-5

everybody hes fought has had a winning record with over 15 fights experience each.

and he's fighting don frye, not dan severn.







You are missing the point.

Mo beat a quality fighter. The other guys you named did not. They won some fights then gradually fought better people. Mo has had a good win over Wiuff. He should be fighting people at that level and working himself up to prepare for top contenders. Not going down in competition and taking meaningless fights. Im not saying he should jump in with Fedor. But show some attempt to become a top fighter and not just be content on the Japanese turning you into a circus act. Which they will if you allow them.

Example.

QJ got his first big win over a good fighter in his 18th fight.(He was -2 vs name guys before). After his win over Igor Volvchanchin he went on to face 6 top Pride star in his next 8 fights. But when he lost early in hsi career to top guys he fougt lessor comp. But when you win big you step it up.

The same goes with Faber. Once he beat his first name fighter in Ivan Majivar. You can see a consistant increase in skill level of his opponent.



Mike Brown is a little different. He has a steady dose of name and cans on his resume. The reason is he wasnt in a promotion very long. He was fighting like Jeremy Horn. Taking any fight in any promotion verses anyone. Just trying to get paid. This is probabely why he didnt find great success until now when he is in his mid 30's.


Look how the UFC handled Brock. He beat



so by the same logic, if ray mercer were to continue his foray into mma he should be fighting people on tim sylvia's level?

how about anderson silva? should he of been fighting the rest of the top of the heap after he beat sakurai? no, the holes in his game are way to obvious and hes just not on that level.

his 5 fights after sakurai, roan carneiro, alex steibling, alex otsuka, carlos newton, and takase?

how about machida, he beat franklin? who did he fight after? sam greco? bj penn?

was joe lauzon ready to take on bj penn and the other top 155ers after he beat jens pulver?


hes fighting a steady diet of well experienced fighters with winning record, while he still develops his striking and ju-jitsu (which will most likely stay static if you look at the history of team quest fighters) especially outside the ufc. how many 205ers are there out there mike kyle, calvancante?? he's beating the best outside the ufc, what else can you ask for? and he is stepping up his talent level slowly. every one of those fights was one he could potentially lose and a new test for him.
Brain_Smasher
7/23/09 2:28:51PM
Many of the guys you named did continue to fight name fighters. Alex stebling was a legit contender at the time. He was running through people.

Also there is a big difference between landing a lucky punch on has beens like Sylvia who was 50 lbs over weight and hadnt been training and Pulver who has been KOed or knocked flat in his last half dozen fights. Mo didnt win like that. Also Machida was fighting for Anoki at the time i believe. Anoki didnt have many fighters at all. Let along decent fighters for Machida. Also the Japanese are horrible at building fighters. They build pro wrestling esque story lines.

Brock Lesnar proved he can hang with the big boys. You dont see him taking fights with "War Path".
mikevolz
7/23/09 4:29:44PM

Posted by Brain_Smasher

Many of the guys you named did continue to fight name fighters. Alex stebling was a legit contender at the time. He was running through people.

Also there is a big difference between landing a lucky punch on has beens like Sylvia who was 50 lbs over weight and hadnt been training and Pulver who has been KOed or knocked flat in his last half dozen fights. Mo didnt win like that. Also Machida was fighting for Anoki at the time i believe. Anoki didnt have many fighters at all. Let along decent fighters for Machida. Also the Japanese are horrible at building fighters. They build pro wrestling esque story lines.

Brock Lesnar proved he can hang with the big boys. You dont see him taking fights with "War Path".



brock lesnar is also fighting in the weakest division in mma, with more of a size advantage than king mo could ever dream of.
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