Posted by NatedawgThaM
It's basically a huge track race. Rampage and Griffin are fighting in the summer which means there is only one title defense left this year because that fight will be a war and I doubt they can clear the champ to go in October and then go again in December. So most likely the next title defense is November or December.
IMO the standings in the race...
Jardine leads with a win over Forrest and Chuck
Rashad is behind him with no loss and is beating everybody put in front of him
Machida and Thiago Silva tied in 3rd since both are undefeated but have yet to beat an elite fighter
Then Chuck since he's 1-2 in his last 3 and too me I seriously can't put him over two undefeated fighters with that recent record
Let the race begin to Late 08!!!!
Posted by wrona666
Jardine a title contender.....thats pretty funny.....even if he does get a shot he is still probably going to have to fight once or twice and win before he does considering that Griffen and Jackson arent fighting until summer time.....
Posted by loonytnt
Posted by wrona666
Jardine a title contender.....thats pretty funny.....even if he does get a shot he is still probably going to have to fight once or twice and win before he does considering that Griffen and Jackson arent fighting until summer time.....
you saying jardine is not a title contender?? he beat chuck and forrest, this guys imo should be fightin rampage not forrest
Posted by Pookie
Posted by NatedawgThaM
It's basically a huge track race. Rampage and Griffin are fighting in the summer which means there is only one title defense left this year because that fight will be a war and I doubt they can clear the champ to go in October and then go again in December. So most likely the next title defense is November or December.
IMO the standings in the race...
Jardine leads with a win over Forrest and Chuck
Rashad is behind him with no loss and is beating everybody put in front of him
Machida and Thiago Silva tied in 3rd since both are undefeated but have yet to beat an elite fighter
Then Chuck since he's 1-2 in his last 3 and too me I seriously can't put him over two undefeated fighters with that recent record
Let the race begin to Late 08!!!!
Rashad shouldnt be getting a title shot before machida, if he does then its blatant favoritism... Rashads toughest fight to date has been tito a top 15 fighter who he tied luckily after losing 2 rounds to 1
Didnt Machida just embarrass sokoudjou. Do you think soku is not an elite fighter? he certainly is top ten, i dont understand your reasoning.
and on the topic of holding the belt by the end of the year, if he fought jardine,chuck,wandy, or shogun and won he would be the #1 contender hands down. Shogun is the only one in that group i can see beating him.
when is the ultimate fighter finale going to be? april maybe? thats definitely enough time to get a #1 contender match going. shit they could even do it when forrest and jackson fight.
It is possible to have the title by the end of the year. He just needs a top contender to accept a fight with him. Hopefully its jardine.

Posted by NatedawgThaM
Posted by Pookie
Posted by NatedawgThaM
It's basically a huge track race. Rampage and Griffin are fighting in the summer which means there is only one title defense left this year because that fight will be a war and I doubt they can clear the champ to go in October and then go again in December. So most likely the next title defense is November or December.
IMO the standings in the race...
Jardine leads with a win over Forrest and Chuck
Rashad is behind him with no loss and is beating everybody put in front of him
Machida and Thiago Silva tied in 3rd since both are undefeated but have yet to beat an elite fighter
Then Chuck since he's 1-2 in his last 3 and too me I seriously can't put him over two undefeated fighters with that recent record
Let the race begin to Late 08!!!!
Rashad shouldnt be getting a title shot before machida, if he does then its blatant favoritism... Rashads toughest fight to date has been tito a top 15 fighter who he tied luckily after losing 2 rounds to 1
Didnt Machida just embarrass sokoudjou. Do you think soku is not an elite fighter? he certainly is top ten, i dont understand your reasoning.
and on the topic of holding the belt by the end of the year, if he fought jardine,chuck,wandy, or shogun and won he would be the #1 contender hands down. Shogun is the only one in that group i can see beating him.
when is the ultimate fighter finale going to be? april maybe? thats definitely enough time to get a #1 contender match going. shit they could even do it when forrest and jackson fight.
It is possible to have the title by the end of the year. He just needs a top contender to accept a fight with him. Hopefully its jardine.
You seriously had or have Soko in your top 10?
He had too lucky wins at the beginning of the year but before that he got smoked by one of Liddell's training partners. Soko is far from elite. IMO he's just lucky.
I know Rashad barely draw'd Tito Ortiz. But Tito Ortiz is ten times better then anybody Machida has faced. Machida's biggest wins are against people who are better in lower weight classes. He has yet to beat an elite fighter in the UFC. How is Tito not an elite fighter? His only loss recently is too Liddell and a lot of you have Liddell in your top 5's!!!!
It's just a matter of favoritism. Whether Machida is better then Rashad or Chuck. He probably is, but 9 out of 10 times Chuck is going to get the title shot ahead of him. Rashad too since there hyping him up to be a big poster boy. I don't believe he will get one until 09 because most likely Liddell will beat somebody easy and then take one last beating from Rampage at the end of this year.

I was like many and said he was boring, now I can see why he is so effective as a fighter and can be exciting to watch, as evidenced at UFC 79. He has all the tools to win the title and it is a great possibility that he will hold the title eventually. I also think he is a bad match up for anyone and I think he would beat Chuck. He is a very bad match up for Liddell, he is very elusive and Chuck's counter striking will more than likely be uneffective against him. This is also coming from a huge Liddell fan, he is and always will be one of my favorite fighters. Yet, I don't think he will be able to beat Machida. Hopefully, he proves me wrong though.
Posted by wolfman
I think he will have the belt by the end of the year, and this is coming from a person who has picked against him twice.I was like many and said he was boring, now I can see why he is so effective as a fighter and can be exciting to watch, as evidenced at UFC 79. He has all the tools to win the title and it is a great possibility that he will hold the title eventually. I also think he is a bad match up for anyone and I think he would beat Chuck. He is a very bad match up for Liddell, he is very elusive and Chuck's counter striking will more than likely be uneffective against him. This is also coming from a huge Liddell fan, he is and always will be one of my favorite fighters. Yet, I don't think he will be able to beat Machida. Hopefully, he proves me wrong though.
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Posted by Pookie
the only people who have the style to beat him IMO are shogun and rampage.
Shogun always comes full force when hes on his A-game, that could very well tire machida, and his strikes are as accurate and quick as machidas as well. The BJJ and takedowns are about even. The 2 are the most well rounded in the divsion and could make fight of the year IMO.
and rampage is just rampage lol
Posted by wolfman
Posted by Pookie
the only people who have the style to beat him IMO are shogun and rampage.
Shogun always comes full force when hes on his A-game, that could very well tire machida, and his strikes are as accurate and quick as machidas as well. The BJJ and takedowns are about even. The 2 are the most well rounded in the divsion and could make fight of the year IMO.
and rampage is just rampage lol
I would love to see Machida fight Rampage or Shogun! Especially, Rampage vs. Machida that would be an interesting fight to say the least!
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Posted by NatedawgThaM
Posted by Pookie
Posted by NatedawgThaM
It's basically a huge track race. Rampage and Griffin are fighting in the summer which means there is only one title defense left this year because that fight will be a war and I doubt they can clear the champ to go in October and then go again in December. So most likely the next title defense is November or December.
IMO the standings in the race...
Jardine leads with a win over Forrest and Chuck
Rashad is behind him with no loss and is beating everybody put in front of him
Machida and Thiago Silva tied in 3rd since both are undefeated but have yet to beat an elite fighter
Then Chuck since he's 1-2 in his last 3 and too me I seriously can't put him over two undefeated fighters with that recent record
Let the race begin to Late 08!!!!
Rashad shouldnt be getting a title shot before machida, if he does then its blatant favoritism... Rashads toughest fight to date has been tito a top 15 fighter who he tied luckily after losing 2 rounds to 1
Didnt Machida just embarrass sokoudjou. Do you think soku is not an elite fighter? he certainly is top ten, i dont understand your reasoning.
and on the topic of holding the belt by the end of the year, if he fought jardine,chuck,wandy, or shogun and won he would be the #1 contender hands down. Shogun is the only one in that group i can see beating him.
when is the ultimate fighter finale going to be? april maybe? thats definitely enough time to get a #1 contender match going. shit they could even do it when forrest and jackson fight.
It is possible to have the title by the end of the year. He just needs a top contender to accept a fight with him. Hopefully its jardine.
You seriously had or have Soko in your top 10?
He had too lucky wins at the beginning of the year but before that he got smoked by one of Liddell's training partners. Soko is far from elite. IMO he's just lucky.
I know Rashad barely draw'd Tito Ortiz. But Tito Ortiz is ten times better then anybody Machida has faced. Machida's biggest wins are against people who are better in lower weight classes. He has yet to beat an elite fighter in the UFC. How is Tito not an elite fighter? His only loss recently is too Liddell and a lot of you have Liddell in your top 5's!!!!
It's just a matter of favoritism. Whether Machida is better then Rashad or Chuck. He probably is, but 9 out of 10 times Chuck is going to get the title shot ahead of him. Rashad too since there hyping him up to be a big poster boy. I don't believe he will get one until 09 because most likely Liddell will beat somebody easy and then take one last beating from Rampage at the end of this year.
its not like those fights in pride were one punch and they were over, he has an excellent sprawl to fend off wrestlers and exceptional judo to ward off any clinching, the only holes in his game is his sub defense and possibly a suspect chin. He was put in a match that the opponent had an incredible style advantage in his UFC debut. Taking him out of your top ten after that loss is ridiculous if you had him there before.
and that doo doo about tito being 10x better than anyone hes faced is such balogne, Nakamura IMO is better than tito, Sokoudjou i already covered, Rich franklin at 205 is still a tough match-up regardless of who you are.
...and werent you just on Houston Alexanders bandwagon hardcore until he was embarrased by thiago silva
and now you're on Silvas bandwagon? you cant seriously laugh at the logic behind having soko in the top ten when you have thiago there... who btw hasnt faced any top 20 competition yet.
IMO Soko will never beat another big name. I hope they sick Houston on him so can destroy that chin because that's what would happen.
Posted by NatedawgThaM
Me and like a few, by few I mean a FEW, people are the only people who actually think like me, and think he could be a serious threat.
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