Lyoto: “Anderson would knock Fedor out”

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MMAcca
3/16/09 2:29:41AM
Pointed as the best pound for pound fighter in the world, Anderson Silva doesn’t know what is a loss for nine fights, meanwhile Fedor Emelianenko remains undefeated for eight years, time in witch he got 26 victories and one no contest. To end with the questions of who really is the best, we asked some MMA specialists, how would the a fight between them (at 231lbs catchweight), and Lyoto Machida bet in the Brazilian. “Anderson has much more technical quality than Fedor, He’d knock him out”, said Machida.














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bjj1605
3/16/09 2:34:02AM
I have to agree with Lyoto. I think fedor would get picked apart like he did against arlovski, with out the shocking KO at the end. At least if there were a shocking KO it would come from an anderson flying knee that landed.
urbman
3/16/09 2:36:42AM
As good a technical striker that spider is,I don't see him being able to contend with Fedor's pure strength and physicality
cmill21
3/16/09 2:57:00AM
Fedor has beaten better strikers, Cro Cop had one of the best outside games around, Anderson likes to work out of the clinch, doesn't work against a guy with Fedor's skills. Fedor would take him down and either pound him out or sub him.
EvenFlow
3/16/09 3:11:02AM
If Anderson moved up to, idk 215-225 he might be a little slower but he has as good a shot as any LH and HW imo. I would pick Fedor but I can see it happen.
Aether
3/16/09 4:31:16AM

Posted by bjj1605

I have to agree with Lyoto. I think fedor would get picked apart like he did against arlovski, with out the shocking KO at the end. At least if there were a shocking KO it would come from an anderson flying knee that landed.



Watch the arlovski fight again. No one got picked apart. Arlovski landed probably half a dozen clean punches before getting put to sleep.

As far as Lyoto's statement, his argument doesn't really hold weight. Many of Fedor's opponents have been considered technically superior either on the feet or the ground and he has still beaten them all. Never mind the fact that these guys are training partners lol, Anderson also said Filho was the best middleweight in the world so I guess we know just how objective these guys are when talking about each others' abilities. lol.

Do a survey of fighters that don't train with Anderson and see what it says. I'm willing to bet the odds wouldn't be in the Spider's favour on that one.
lohmann
3/16/09 5:00:17AM
Although I'd take Emelianenko in a fight against Silva because I think he holds a clear edge in grappling/submissions, I do think Silva stands just as good or a better chance than most of getting that elusive victory. The idea that Anderson Silva could topple Fedor does not offend me, and the case that Anderson could do it does not seem at all farfetched. Although Anderson would find it difficult to connect with his customary seventy percent of strikes, I do think he could find a decent distance and use his length to keep Fedor off-balance and frustrated. It'd be an interesting fight for sure: the most precise striker in mixed martial arts versus the hardest to cleanly strike.
CwB
3/16/09 5:52:12AM
...Conan Silveira, American Top Team’s leader and one of the most experienced in MMA... “Fedor is way more strong and explosive. Besides loving Anderson, I can’t see any result on this fight besides Anderson being knocked out”, bets Silveira.


but it could be a submission
wapttn
3/16/09 6:41:39AM
this is absurd. Yes silva has the more technical striking but does he have any other advantage in this fight? On the feet, fedor's fast hands and looping punches have proven to be effective against some of the most technical strikers. Even if you want to give the advantage to silva in the striking, thats where it ends. Silva likes to take advantage in the clinch, but fedor is far too big, strong, and skilled for silva to be as effective. Aside from all that, the deciding factor of this fight would be that Anderson's takedown defense is nonexistent and fedor has some of, if not the best ground and pound in the sport. Fedor would take him down, silva would not sub him, and fedor would maul him for the tko finish.

The reason why machida gives silva the nod in this fight is because he belongs to blackhouse. Its like asking gray maynard if couture could beat fedor.
sparky
3/16/09 8:26:28AM
Thats a BOLD statement I must say!!!
Aaronno9
3/16/09 9:23:38AM
I think Lyoto has a better chance at beating Fedor than Silva does. However, it looks like if Fedor is going to be beaten its going to be by one big punch, since hes better in every area than pretty much everbody hes fought. And Andersons accuracy combined with his power means hed half a half decent shot of being the one to land that big shot.
StPierreCanada
3/16/09 10:51:27AM
Yeah...right.

I love Fedor and Anderson but come on. Fedor could stand with Anderson no problem. Fedor's wrestling/size/power would be the difference. Anderson would give him a run but Anderson's to small and not as strong as Fedor, that would be the difference, I guess Silva has a chance, but Fedor would win IMO. P4P I have them tied for first.
zstajerski
3/16/09 12:07:53PM
Lyoto just sad that cause he knows Silva from Brasil!!

A.Silva si not teh best PFP fighter in teh world! this was made up by DW to counter teh claim: that he does NOT HAVE teh best PFP fighter (Fedor)...

Fedor is the best HW and PFP fighter around!
seanfu
3/16/09 12:43:34PM
Lyoto would beat Fedor in a cage. Anderson would beat him in a cage if Fedor decided to cut to 220 or so. But that wouldn't be the deciding factor anyway, not how p4p works.

If Fedor whooped Anderson and then rematched and lost to Arlovski while Anderson goes on to beat Rashad or Rampage then there's no doubt Fedor would be under Anderson because people would look at the fight and say weight made a difference.

If GSP lost to Alves and BJ finished Aoki then you would likely put BJ above GSP.

When Serra knocked out GSP I didn't think for a second, "hey lets put serra as a top 10 p4p" not even that. GSP and Hughes were still the 1 and 2 welterweights with serra barely in the top 10 mix of (((170))).

So the Anderson Fedor fight it rediculous in terms of being a ranking decider.
motorboatensob
3/16/09 1:59:56PM
When have you ever seen Anderson rocked. He might be able to take Fedors power and we seen what happened in Fedors last fight he was getting picked apart till that one punch. I would give it to Anderson as long as he can take Fedors power.
hodge
3/16/09 3:08:36PM

Posted by motorboatensob

When have you ever seen Anderson rocked. He might be able to take Fedors power and we seen what happened in Fedors last fight he was getting picked apart till that one punch. I would give it to Anderson as long as he can take Fedors power.




Yeah but do you seriously think he could take Fedors power come on now, who has Anderson beat in his title reign that has the power of Fedor maybe Dan Henderson P4P but no one else compares.
bjj1605
3/16/09 3:17:26PM
I don't think he would have to take fedors power because Anderson doesn't let anyone land clean. He would pick him apart with foot movement and accuracy. I see anderson knocking him into the ropes with punches and finishing with with a head kick or big knee.
slapshot
3/16/09 3:39:27PM

On the other hand, Conan Silveira, American Top Team’s leader and one of the most experienced in MMA, don’t see any chances for the Spider in this fight. “Fedor is way more strong and explosive. Besides loving Anderson, I can’t see any result on this fight besides Anderson being knocked out”, bets Silveira

I'd have to agree with Conan.
The-Don
3/16/09 6:48:39PM

Posted by bjj1605

I don't think he would have to take fedors power because Anderson doesn't let anyone land clean. He would pick him apart with foot movement and accuracy. I see anderson knocking him into the ropes with punches and finishing with with a head kick or big knee.




Fedor took head kicks from CroCop in his prime and was all but unphased.. Anderson does not have the power CC did.. He might be a touch faster.. but Anderson will get caught or taken to the ground and beat down.. His best chance of winning I think is by decision.. not TKO or KO.. certinaly not a sub.
Aether
3/16/09 7:48:26PM
People saying Anderson would pick him apart seem to be neglecting the fact that Anderson's takedown defense is not even remotely close to good enough to deal with Fedor's takedowns.
bls1919
3/16/09 10:02:03PM

Posted by hodge


Posted by motorboatensob

When have you ever seen Anderson rocked. He might be able to take Fedors power and we seen what happened in Fedors last fight he was getting picked apart till that one punch. I would give it to Anderson as long as he can take Fedors power.




Yeah but do you seriously think he could take Fedors power come on now, who has Anderson beat in his title reign that has the power of Fedor maybe Dan Henderson P4P but no one else compares.



Dude Hendo hits like a tank. Silvas chin is no way in ? i think a fight between these two would be nothing short of amazing. Spider likes to work out of the clinch a lot and that might not be the best way to beat Fedor If he could emplor a Machidaesque counter fight and surge when needed he could beat Fedor in a UD. Maybe even catch him in a late sub from his back. Silva is a black belt and regurlary trains with the NOG brothers. in any event WAR SILVA!!!!!!!!!!!
BenitoSanchez
3/23/09 12:01:20PM
Anderson would run circles around Fedor
sbulldavid
5/24/09 10:54:03PM
Yeah Henderson hits hard but he is definitely not Fedor when it comes to speed. Has anybody looked at that Arlovski fight and seen how fast his hands are. Fedor as a heavyweight has got the fastest hands since Ali. I get annoyed by some of the stupid things I hear. Comparing Henderson to Fedor is like comparing Bob Sapp to Fedor. Get a clue.
burialchamber
5/24/09 11:43:50PM

Posted by bls1919


Posted by hodge


Posted by motorboatensob

When have you ever seen Anderson rocked. He might be able to take Fedors power and we seen what happened in Fedors last fight he was getting picked apart till that one punch. I would give it to Anderson as long as he can take Fedors power.




Yeah but do you seriously think he could take Fedors power come on now, who has Anderson beat in his title reign that has the power of Fedor maybe Dan Henderson P4P but no one else compares.



Dude Hendo hits like a tank. Silvas chin is no way in ? i think a fight between these two would be nothing short of amazing. Spider likes to work out of the clinch a lot and that might not be the best way to beat Fedor If he could emplor a Machidaesque counter fight and surge when needed he could beat Fedor in a UD. Maybe even catch him in a late sub from his back. Silva is a black belt and regurlary trains with the NOG brothers. in any event WAR SILVA!!!!!!!!!!!



Yeah Anderson is a black belt under the Nogueiras, but Fedor beat Big Nog 2 and a half times, so I doubt Anderson can do what Nog could not.
ncordless
5/25/09 1:54:43AM

Posted by bls1919


Posted by hodge


Posted by motorboatensob

When have you ever seen Anderson rocked. He might be able to take Fedors power and we seen what happened in Fedors last fight he was getting picked apart till that one punch. I would give it to Anderson as long as he can take Fedors power.




Yeah but do you seriously think he could take Fedors power come on now, who has Anderson beat in his title reign that has the power of Fedor maybe Dan Henderson P4P but no one else compares.



Dude Hendo hits like a tank. Silvas chin is no way in ? i think a fight between these two would be nothing short of amazing. Spider likes to work out of the clinch a lot and that might not be the best way to beat Fedor If he could emplor a Machidaesque counter fight and surge when needed he could beat Fedor in a UD. Maybe even catch him in a late sub from his back. Silva is a black belt and regurlary trains with the NOG brothers. in any event WAR SILVA!!!!!!!!!!!



The day Fedor Emelianenko gets caught in a sub while in the guard of another fighter is the day I will donate all my money to the Man/Boy Love Society It ain't gonna happen. Fedor melted Nog's guard when Nog was in his prime. I cannot think of a single fighter who has ever had Fedor in any danger from the bottom... if anyone can please remind me.

Jackelope
5/25/09 2:13:56AM

Posted by ncordless

The day Fedor Emelianenko gets caught in a sub while in the guard of another fighter is the day I will donate all my money to the Man/Boy Love Society It ain't gonna happen. Fedor melted Nog's guard when Nog was in his prime. I cannot think of a single fighter who has ever had Fedor in any danger from the bottom... if anyone can please remind me.




I hate to say this, but the most trouble I can remember Fedor in while he was in someone's guard was actually with Mark Coleman. Not sure whether or not I'm remembering correctly, though- it's been a while since I've seen that fight. I seem to remember an arm bar or something that Coleman threw up out of nowhere. I could be way off base. I need to go watch the fight, lol.

Anyway, though- I agree. Fedor is not getting subbed inside someone's guard any time soon. I laughed when I read that people think Anderson Silva could submit Fedor
Pookie
5/25/09 3:41:02AM

Posted by Jackelope


Posted by ncordless

The day Fedor Emelianenko gets caught in a sub while in the guard of another fighter is the day I will donate all my money to the Man/Boy Love Society It ain't gonna happen. Fedor melted Nog's guard when Nog was in his prime. I cannot think of a single fighter who has ever had Fedor in any danger from the bottom... if anyone can please remind me.




I hate to say this, but the most trouble I can remember Fedor in while he was in someone's guard was actually with Mark Coleman. Not sure whether or not I'm remembering correctly, though- it's been a while since I've seen that fight. I seem to remember an arm bar or something that Coleman threw up out of nowhere. I could be way off base. I need to go watch the fight, lol.

Anyway, though- I agree. Fedor is not getting subbed inside someone's guard any time soon. I laughed when I read that people think Anderson Silva could submit Fedor



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Jackelope
5/25/09 11:38:59AM

Posted by Pookie


Posted by Jackelope


Posted by ncordless

The day Fedor Emelianenko gets caught in a sub while in the guard of another fighter is the day I will donate all my money to the Man/Boy Love Society It ain't gonna happen. Fedor melted Nog's guard when Nog was in his prime. I cannot think of a single fighter who has ever had Fedor in any danger from the bottom... if anyone can please remind me.




I hate to say this, but the most trouble I can remember Fedor in while he was in someone's guard was actually with Mark Coleman. Not sure whether or not I'm remembering correctly, though- it's been a while since I've seen that fight. I seem to remember an arm bar or something that Coleman threw up out of nowhere. I could be way off base. I need to go watch the fight, lol.

Anyway, though- I agree. Fedor is not getting subbed inside someone's guard any time soon. I laughed when I read that people think Anderson Silva could submit Fedor



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mrsmiley
5/25/09 2:20:14PM
I say Fedor would take it hands down.
I actualy say Lyoto would have a better shot than anderson of beating Fedor.
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