Should the UFC do more about low blows?

I mean every fight I have seen somebody get hit in the nuts, they always end up losing...

Matt Hughes(Nailed in the Nuts TWICE ina ROW) when he lost his title to GSP last november...So you could make the arguement that took alot of explosiveness out of Matt Hughes so...

Cro Cop(2 knee shots right square in the sack) I know he had a broken rib too but any explosiveness he had left that he wanted to use to finish Kongo with went away and it took him out of his match...

Din Thomas(Looked more like an accident other then the other 2) but still he still loss even though he looked alright until he loss...

but all im saying is every fight that I have seen somebody get hit in the nuts they end up losing...if theres a fight that somebody got hit in the nuts and still won please show me...

I think the UFC has been focusing more on fence grabbing but I think they should get even more stricter on low blows and at least give the fighters a MANDATORY 2 or 3 minute rest because a fighter might think hes bette ror lie to mak ehim look tough but deep down he is hurt...

Plus in Boxing Miguel Cotto nailed Zab Judah twice in the nuts and won...

Sports overall do something!!!

yeah but idk what you can really do about that sometimes it just happens

I understand where your coming from but its not like the guys are going for low blows. Its a complete accident every time I've seen it happen in the UFC including the Cro Cop fight. No one wants to win that way. I think things are fine the way they are though. They deter a fighter from doing it and give the one that got hit 5 minutes. Im sure if it keeps happening they would take a point away. So i think they can't do more then they are.

I think it's on the fighters, it seems some guys know what their doing when they hit em there.

I know what you mean. Hughes can say the most about it as i know two fights he got hit there. the one with pierre, he lost his title for after two shots. The other was with frank trigg and he still won. but it needs to be addressed more. People know they can do it and only get warnings, its cheap.

since the ufc went under new management they banned certain elbow strikes,headbutts,hits to the back up the head,can't knee when opponent is down and certain upkicks so, the fighters have to be so focused and careful nowadays if they start extremly punishing for low blows there all gonna be so scared and focused on all the shit they can't do you wont see a single high kick or daring shot in fights to come.I think it would be a bad move to put that much stress on the fighters to be that careful fights wouldnt be exciting as they are.

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Posted by NatedawgThaM

I mean every fight I have seen somebody get hit in the nuts, they always end up losing...

Matt Hughes(Nailed in the Nuts TWICE ina ROW) when he lost his title to GSP last november...So you could make the arguement that took alot of explosiveness out of Matt Hughes so...

Cro Cop(2 knee shots right square in the sack) I know he had a broken rib too but any explosiveness he had left that he wanted to use to finish Kongo with went away and it took him out of his match...

Din Thomas(Looked more like an accident other then the other 2) but still he still loss even though he looked alright until he loss...

but all im saying is every fight that I have seen somebody get hit in the nuts they end up losing...if theres a fight that somebody got hit in the nuts and still won please show me...

I think the UFC has been focusing more on fence grabbing but I think they should get even more stricter on low blows and at least give the fighters a MANDATORY 2 or 3 minute rest because a fighter might think hes bette ror lie to mak ehim look tough but deep down he is hurt...

Plus in Boxing Miguel Cotto nailed Zab Judah twice in the nuts and won...

Sports overall do something!!!

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i think sometimes the fighter who gets hit does not take enough time to rest from it. they get five minutes but it seems like they only take one minute or less. they have to be that bad ass who can take a hit down there and walk it off quickly. mann that stuff hurts. especially that cro cop one that was like two direct full force knees. i dont know what more the ufc could do because the leg kicks and knees are vital and if you move while someone is going for that strike you could get hit. and sometimes height differences cause it too. i think fighters should just take more time to rest.

I do think they need to come down harder on flagrant rule breakers and dirty fighters like Kongo, not let them get away with that and deduct a point off the bat. Before anyone says "They deserve a warning, it could have been an accidental shot!", well tough sh*t I say. That "accident" just severely disadvantaged the guy on the receiving end of it, take a point away from the fouler to level the field with the foulee.

Maybe if the UFC ref's were more assertive with taking points away, and took them away immediately for fouls like fence and glove grabbing and low blows, then people would know they couldn't get away with it even once. This would mean less people deliberately or accidentally (through clumsiness) fouling. Make it like Muay Thai competition, you do a foul, you get penalised there and then. In UFC I think a lot of guys think they can get away with a couple of low blows or fence grabs since they will only get warned and they can refrain from doing it again and not suffer a point reduction. I wish they would tighten it up!

As for the Matt Hughes sack shot, I think that was arguable. The second one though didn't even hit his groin, it was the inside of the thigh. Then Matt gave us those rubbish excuses like "It hit a nerve on my thigh". Yeah sure Matt, sure!

something more convincing than Matt Hughes second received "low blow"

Yeah I think Crocop should get a lot more respect for his Konga fight than he did.I mean he got kneed multiple times in the groin and didn't even shed a tear.You try having a kick boxing expert knee you in the nuts and see if you can ride a fight to a decision.Along with a broken rib!
If anything I think it says more for Crocop to go to a decison and less for Konga for not being able to finish the fight.

I don't think their's a whole lot the UFC can don about low blows other than deduct points. and they should probably pentalize how much money a fighter makes if he throws a low blow as well if they don't already.

I think these guys should take more time when whacked in the bag, they probably do to. But I would have to think the more time you take the more you loose focus of your game plan. Damed if you do damed if you dont.

they should just allow them

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Posted by Pitbull09

I know what you mean. Hughes can say the most about it as i know two fights he got hit there. the one with pierre, he lost his title for after two shots. The other was with frank trigg and he still won. but it needs to be addressed more. People know they can do it and only get warnings, its cheap.

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Didn't Hughes admit that they connected to is femoral nerve after the fight and not his groin?

I think the first should be a warning, the second should be a point taken off, then the third time(accidental or otherwise)should be an automatic DQ. If after the second time, you haven't learned to stop using that specific strike, then you deserve to lose.

NOT.lets be realistic.the ref's not just gonna call it like that if the guy wasnt serously injured.take another point.thats it.neither fighter would want to end it like that.this is dumb thread

theres really not a ton that the ufc can do, its going to happen in mma. i see where you are coming from mast, but i think an immediate deduction without a warning is a little too much, although it seems like fence grabbing is now getting nailed on the first offense(leben). the fighters need to take as much of that 5 minutes as they need, but the crowd starts booing and the fighters want to prove they can hack it so they rush back into the fight. take your time and let your boys stop throbbing is the best solution to a first offense in my book, after that the points come.

the new owners of ufc have already made the rules pansy enough already! If u catch a nut shot just take the time u need to walk it off..all the guys in the crowd will understand at least

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Posted by cowcatcher

theres really not a ton that the ufc can do, its going to happen in mma. i see where you are coming from mast, but i think an immediate deduction without a warning is a little too much, although it seems like fence grabbing is now getting nailed on the first offense(leben). the fighters need to take as much of that 5 minutes as they need, but the crowd starts booing and the fighters want to prove they can hack it so they rush back into the fight. take your time and let your boys stop throbbing is the best solution to a first offense in my book, after that the points come.

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The other problem is that when you start killing guys for accidental groin shots then fighters stop throwing certain kicks and knees.

I don't like to see guys get away with it when they are just being careless. I think most of the time it is accidental (a guy might be stepping to avoid a certain kick, but another kick was thrown and circles into it), but when it happens multiple times in a single fight it's ridiculous.

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Posted by Rush

I don't like to see guys get away with it when they are just being careless. I think most of the time it is accidental (a guy might be stepping to avoid a certain kick, but another kick was thrown and circles into it), but when it happens multiple times in a single fight it's ridiculous.

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I started watching MMA with Penn/Hughes 2. I don't recall a single nutshot up until GSP/Hughes 2, and there was two of them. Then it was a little while before I saw another one, and all of a sudden CroCop gets plastered right in the family jewels with two perfectly placed knees. And if you hit the guy once, why would you keep throwing that same knee when the chances of you hitting him AGAIN are still there? Fighters need to use common sense.

Hmm...if I throw this kick and he turns and circles into it I could catch him in the nuts. Oh well I'm gonna try it anyway. Whoops, got him square on the package, he's fine though. Ok, he's open, let me try that kick again and see if I can avoid hitting his groin. Ow, sorry I hit you for a second time...I'll be more careful. Ok he's open again I gotta throw this kick. Uh-oh, I got you a third time? Sorry I'll be more careful, and the fact that your choosing to continute despite being blasted in the bad spot three times, and all I did was lose a point and gain a huge advantage cause now you have to fight with injured nuts is ok.


Once you get a warning, twice you get a point off, and if by this time you still haven't stopped using that move, and you hit him a 3rd time, then you should automatically get DQd. NO MORE LOW BLOW DAMMIT!

It's just carelessness and sloppines that causes low blows. I watch a lot of K-1 and Muay Thai, where by nature, there should be a lot more low blows, simply because its all striking. But there aren't there are less than MMA, because the fighters are just a lot more skilled in striking. And I think its much more of a factor in MMA since(espescially in Muay Thai) less concessions made for the fighter taking the low blow. There is a lot less flapping around, no calling matches off (as Daijiro Matsui once did against Rampage after a shot), particularly in Thai boxing if a fighter takes a low blow they just tough it out and don't always look to the ref. I'm not saying thats a good thing, but what I am saying is that skilled strikers in pure stand up fighting land less unintentional low blows than their sloppier MMA counterparts.

Cro Cop was hit 4 or 5 times in the nuts. That was way too excessive. Kongo would get in at least 2 whacks before Big John said anything. And still no points taken away. That fight should have been a draw or a DQ. If you look back at the fight, he connects at least 4 times. There's a ton more they can do. Take away the points. 1 strict warning. Then points. It's so cheap when they let guys get away with stuff like that and then they win the fight. Kongo's actions are a disgrace.