LOL @ foxsports top 10 list

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grappler-80
1/13/07 5:03:25AM
fox sports top 10 pound for pound mma fighters

Putting chuck above fedor and gsp? I mean comeon. Chucks good... but not pound for pound above fedor or gsp. And matt lindland is on the list? what'sup with that? yeah its nice that he beat jeremy horn last year... but he also lost to rampage 2 months before that (the new-age rampage, not rampage of old mind you).
Drago
1/13/07 7:26:55AM
I have to agree that Chucks one of the top mma fighters.
He is extremely difficult to take down which means its mostly stand up, and with that knock out power everyones got a bit of a problem trying to beat him.

Maybe not best fighter buy his overall game is most effective in the Octagon.

Thought Anderson Silva would be a bit higher though!!
DoTheMMAth
1/13/07 7:29:38AM
Yeah I saw this the other day. I was disappointed that they didn't even give big Nog a mention

Chuck's one of my favs, but I personally think Fedor is a better p4p fighter. If Fedor fought a little more often and the UFC hype machine wasn't so influential Fedor probably would have gotten the nod over Chuck. Really though, can't take this list seriously, because as you said... MATT LINDLAND?
Drago
1/13/07 11:30:52AM
Yeh, I'm not sure how they pit him in the TOP 10. He's a very tough guy, considering he maybe lacks some of the genetic talents of other fighters in MMA.
Maybe top 10 in the most consistent fighters category, but not top 10 overall.
neko687
1/14/07 10:47:09AM
Chuck is not a better fighter than Fedor... but nobody can take him down or beat him


Posted by grappler-80
yeah its nice that he beat jeremy horn last year... but he also lost to rampage 2 months before that (the new-age rampage, not rampage of old mind you).



Yeah, nevermind that Lindland is a middleweight,

come on people, Lindland has a great career with some major wins and some major loses, the guy is pretty good (also, grappling magazines (I do not remember if it was Tapout or Grappling) have him in the top 10 of the USA fighters).
DoTheMMAth
1/14/07 11:57:30AM

Posted by neko687

Chuck is not a better fighter than Fedor... but nobody can take him down or beat him


Posted by grappler-80
yeah its nice that he beat jeremy horn last year... but he also lost to rampage 2 months before that (the new-age rampage, not rampage of old mind you).



Yeah, nevermind that Lindland is a middleweight,

come on people, Lindland has a great career with some major wins and some major loses, the guy is pretty good (also, grappling magazines (I do not remember if it was Tapout or Grappling) have him in the top 10 of the USA fighters).



Oh I don't mean to take any credit away from Lindland; beating Jeremy Horn is an accomplishment, and I'm sure that Lindland would pound my keyboard-warrior a$$ in real life... I'm just thinking that there's quite a few other folks that deserved the nod before him. Perhaps though the writer of this list was just trying to be PC about things and make sure that IFL gets at least some sort of mention in the article.
neko687
1/14/07 1:03:01PM
probably that's the case, I'm sure Lindland can put a good fight on anybody, I mean the guy is an olympic silver medalist.

Is he fighting on IFL only, or like Rampage, did the UFC got his contract too?
evilslutt
1/14/07 1:12:31PM
I am curious as to how they gage the fighters overall. Are they basing on scores alone, from a judge's standpoint or just the current top 10 of this season?
nate22
1/15/07 9:27:24AM
Lindland is a legit P4P top ten, i'm suprised people don't recognise his credentials for his place there in the list, yet alone go on to laugh about it.
nate22
1/15/07 9:30:37AM
What is hilarious is Cro Cop on there and no mention of Kid? WTF, Kid is probably top 5, Chuck definately isn't top 5.
lessthanwes
1/15/07 11:49:45AM
are u serious? cro cop is by far one of the best fighters out there. hes beatin some of the bets fighers out there (barnet, silva, coleman, randleman, igor, herring, etc.) theres no way you can say cro cop isnt top 10 material. and plus, look who chuck has beatin (couture, belfort, ortiz, sobral, horn, randleman). he isnt number one, but he is most deffinatly top 5.
nate22
1/15/07 6:42:27PM

Posted by lessthanwes

are u serious? cro cop is by far one of the best fighters out there. hes beatin some of the bets fighers out there (barnet, silva, coleman, randleman, igor, herring, etc.) theres no way you can say cro cop isnt top 10 material. and plus, look who chuck has beatin (couture, belfort, ortiz, sobral, horn, randleman). he isnt number one, but he is most deffinatly top 5.



I agree with you to an extent, but when considering P4P fighters I take into account more so there all round ability and
whether they are capable of fighting at different weights and such.

I'm not going to pick at what you have said as I appreciate that you have a valid argument and I feel P4P at the end of the day is really just personal opinion. I really do feel however that Chuck does not make top 5.
thepitbull00
1/16/07 12:02:27AM
Matt Linland may be one of the top middleweights in the world but I don't know about pound for pound putting him in the same class as Fedor and Chuck. I mean look at a Fedor fight and look at a Linland fight. Linland will just go for a takedown like a crazy man and that's all he wants to do. Fedor will take what he is given and adapt his game too it. Chuck just kills people.
Kameleon
1/16/07 1:52:35AM
I think most US media outlets think Liddell is the holy grail of MMA fighters. I can't wait til Rampage breaks his face, then slam the Iceman for the KO.
pv3Hpv3p
1/25/07 4:22:22PM
Is he fighting on IFL only, or like Rampage, did the UFC got his contract too?


I remember hearing that he had finished his obligations with WFA/WEC or whoever he was fighting for and I read in an interview that he had no plans to fight in the octagon. Too bad... I want the Law back in the UFC where he belongs.

Just because the guy doesn't stand and slug away, just because he doesn't have a style that novice MMA fans or converted boxing fans can appreciate, does not make him any less of a fighter. Matt Lindland is the definition of controling and smashing opponents

WAR MATT "The LAW" LINDLAND!!!! but why matt, why? Why do you want to fight fedor?
THE_AXE_MURDERER
1/25/07 4:30:11PM

Posted by Kameleon

I think most US media outlets think Liddell is the holy grail of MMA fighters. I can't wait til Rampage breaks his face, then slam the Iceman for the KO.

Me too.
swazymaq
1/30/07 2:03:21PM

Chuck Doesnt have a place in the top ten pfp
Hogzilla
1/30/07 2:17:09PM
Man I missed it. Does anyone have a likk to the foxsports top 10?? Idiots if they have chuck above Fedor!! Strait trippin!!
BloodandTears
1/30/07 2:19:30PM
Huh, that is crazy. How can Chuck be ranked over Fedor. This is a popularity vote IMO!
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pv3Hpv3p
1/30/07 3:17:10PM
I by no means think that Chuck > Fedor, but if you read the criteria of the P4P list on the top of the linked page:

"Matches over the past 12 months are weighted more heavily than years past. MMA is a fast-moving sport. A year ago, Andrei Arlovski would have been a no-brainer for this list; this year, he's nowhere to be found."

Fedor beat Hunt an up and coming power, but not necessarily (maybe near the bottom) top ten... And Coleman, a great wrestler who decided to not evolve his game with the evolution of the sport (and no where near top ten in my book)

Chuck had impressive knockouts of Randy Couture (arguably top 10 at the time), Babalu (argueably top 15 still), and Tito (argueably top 15)...

He fought more, neither man lost, and maybe his striking style is more appreciated than Fedor's tesxt-book-well roundedness (nonsense to me), but IMO that's why he got the nod over Fedor on this guy's list.
zephead
1/30/07 3:42:44PM
A betcha the big reason Chuck is #1 is because he finish his fights with highlight reel Ko's

Here's Chucks 7 fights

Tito - KO round 3
Babalu - KO round 1
Randy - KO round 2
Horn - TKO round 4
Randy - KO round 1
White - KO round 1
Tito - KO round 2


Here's Fedor last 7 fights

Hunt - Submission round 1
Coleman - Submission round 2
Zulu - Submission round 1
Cro Cop - Decision
TK - Doctor Stoppage round 1
Nog - decision
Nog - No Contest. Accidental cut


Chucks KO's probably heavily influenced the writer. Because lets face it, most would rather see a KO then a submission. Also I think Fedor fighting Zulu really hurt him in this ranking. Fightin TK probably didn't help either

fedorwins1
1/30/07 7:11:49PM
what the heck they obviously don't know that much if they're putting chuck above fedor
thelastking
1/30/07 7:30:16PM
This list was made by the popularity of the fighter not skill
punisherind
1/30/07 7:35:40PM
isnt fox sports affiliated with pride? what was this guy smoking and can i have some of it?!
Stickan
1/30/07 7:37:25PM
Bah.. I don't even bother arguing about most of the picks but the one that stands out the most is Shogun at 9th place?!?!

Heck he's right up there with GSP and Chuck and almost Fedor. The man has 1 real loss and that was years ago and beaten some SICK opponents.
Just look some of the fighters he's beaten and tell me he's not top 3.

Rampage
Arona
Lil Nog
Overeem
Cyborg
Nak
Gono

Tell me. Who has A.Silva beaten to justify a higher ranking?
Franklin
Sakurai
and some mid-level TUFers in Rivera and Leben.
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