Liddell vs. Jardine instead of Silva @ UFC 76

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Posted by zephead

The Pride boys are coming and they are winning...oops....Cro Cop got KOed. Herring lost in his firs fight in the UFC. Why oh why does just about every thread get truned into a Pride vs. UFC????

How was Chuck being protected?? He fought everybody they put in front of him. He went to Pride and fight 3 times. This is getting crazy

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Chuck sure isnt protected. Fighting Jardine is a lose, lose for Liddell. If he wins so what he was susposed to and Jardine isnt near his level yet, but if some how he loses then the talk starts about how he is getting old and has the game passed him by. Plus if he loses then why would Wandy want to fight him? Not sure that fight would get him any closer to the belt if Liddell is coming off a lose.

well i guess liddell gets a tune up fight

would be nice to see him ko jardine

Of course everything that Wandy says is automatically regarded as gospel. I don't know what UFC really offered him, and neither do you. However, you automatically diss Chuck as a pansy, and Dana as a moron, and Wandy is the victim in all this. They offered him the goddamn fight, and he declined it!

There, deal with it

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Thanks for the enormous insight. Wanderlei already said he was offered two dates 2 months ago, and Dana originally stated the fight would happen in November. Then all of a sudden this Anaheim stuff came up. It's obvious Silva was offered two different dates, it's part of the negotiation, maybe Chuck said no I want September, and Dana would rather blame Wanderlei then Chuck. The point is anybody who follows mma or knows what they are talking about realizes this is the same guy that entered the OWGP, fought Cro Cop twice, and took on Mark Hunt on three day's notice. Chuck's most impressive challenge was taking on Rampage in a rematch, and he got destroyed. They offered him two dates, he took the latter one, that wasn't good enough for Dana or Chuck.

Deal with that

It's the UFC's history of making dumb fights that is making me angry. They give they're poster boys easy fights. How can you say Wandy declined the fight? He said he'd fight liddell in November not Octorber? That kind of sounds like he accepted the fight in November, No? If you can grasp the fact that Chuck's not as good as everyone previously thought you might realize that hey dana is holding on to the past and at the end of 2008 the champions will be HW: Mirko or Fedor LHW: Shogun MW: Silva or Henderson WW: 1 of two original UFC guys GSP LW: BJ Penn.

UHH TO GET BACK ON TOPIC.. IM CALLING THE UPSET AND SAYING JARDINE 2R KO !

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Posted by loller90278

UHH TO GET BACK ON TOPIC.. IM CALLING THE UPSET AND SAYING JARDINE 2R KO !

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Jardine is slow but he's a huge guy. Chuck hasn't fought a striker since 2003, when he lost to Page for the first time. This might be an upset, considering that Chuck is truly a one-trick pony

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Posted by silverbullet

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Posted by loller90278

UHH TO GET BACK ON TOPIC.. IM CALLING THE UPSET AND SAYING JARDINE 2R KO !

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Jardine is slow but he's a huge guy. Chuck hasn't fought a striker since 2003, when he lost to Page for the first time. This might be an upset, considering that Chuck is truly a one-trick pony

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What about his last fight against the same guy?? lol

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Posted by blowe1983

should be a quick easy fight for liddell. very disappointing

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Ya really that is a major slap in the face if you ask me, if I was Liddell.

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Posted by Ordep


Not fighting Shogun because Dana is protecting "both" wait wait....

Oh!!! because he wants to rise Shogun in America....

then what a better way to rise him than letting him KO Liddell a.k.a the MMA Icon for Americans

get some common sense .

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Ya that will build his respect after the fight but it does nothing to hype the fight before it happens. think about, lets say your a casual fan and you dont know much about mma and your favorite fighter is sherk, you see one or two commercials saying that this guy you have never heard of is extremely dangerous and he is getting to fight sherk right away your just going to think that they are just saying that he is dangerous to sell tickets.

it was real easy hyping the fight between rampage and chuck because all they had to do is show clips of rampage dominating chuck.

shogun is a complete unknown to the casual american fan. so to a casual fan chuck vs. jardine would sound way better to you then chuck vs. unknown fighter (shogun)

trust me i think this is a throw away fight too but from a bussiness point of view it makes way more sense and although mma is a sport it is a bussiness too.

think about it, there are what like 6 or 7 thousand people on this website who are hardcore fans and pay per view sales in the millions, so i say there are at least a couple hundred casual fans to every one hardcore fan. so to make money who would you want to make happy hundreds of casual fans or 1 hardcore fan.

SO get some common sense.

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Posted by CwB

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Posted by Ordep


Not fighting Shogun because Dana is protecting "both" wait wait....

Oh!!! because he wants to rise Shogun in America....

then what a better way to rise him than letting him KO Liddell a.k.a the MMA Icon for Americans

get some common sense .

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Ya that will build his respect after the fight but it does nothing to hype the fight before it happens. think about, lets say your a casual fan and you dont know much about mma and your favorite fighter is sherk, you see one or two commercials saying that this guy you have never heard of is extremely dangerous and he is getting to fight sherk right away your just going to think that they are just saying that he is dangerous to sell tickets.

it was real easy hyping the fight between rampage and chuck because all they had to do is show clips of rampage dominating chuck.

shogun is a complete unknown to the casual american fan. so to a casual fan chuck vs. jardine would sound way better to you then chuck vs. unknown fighter (shogun)

trust me i think this is a throw away fight too but from a bussiness point of view it makes way more sense and although mma is a sport it is a bussiness too.

think about it, there are what like 6 or 7 thousand people on this website who are hardcore fans and pay per view sales in the millions, so i say there are at least a couple hundred casual fans to every one hardcore fan. so to make money who would you want to make happy hundreds of casual fans or 1 hardcore fan.

SO get some common sense.

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You want common sense?? How about showing clips of Shogun dominating Rampage??!!!

i like jardine. i liked him against gouveia and griffin. im definitely not saying hell win but i think he has the potential.

haha, liddell and jardine look like theyre in a biker gang together

UFC might be a business, but mma is NOT.

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Posted by TOMMYAYO05

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How was Chuck being protected?? He fought everybody they put in front of him. He went to Pride and fight 3 times. This is getting crazy

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he is being protected by dana because dana try to lowball wandi because he dont want his boy to lose two in a row.

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I think Wandy just doesnt want to lose 3 in a row...and this would be the 3rd brutal beatdown in a row..I mean im a fan of pride as much as UFC...but cmon..all the nuthuggers come out..look what happens when you come over from pride most of their fighters have lost..Cro cop..Werdum..Herrings Debut....and Shogun is fighting Machida which isnt going to be an easy fight...and im curios to see how good his is gonna be without his stomps and kicks.but so far guys that have come from pride other than Rampage and Anderson SIlva havent faired that great in the UFC.

jardine by ko round 1 via monkey slaps

i think this is a stupid fight to happen. come on ,out of all the top 205's for chuck tofight they put him in there against jardine? WTF. as much as i want to see chuck fight shogun or wandi, i really hope he loses this fight just to teach the ufc a lesson to stop wasting time. this is mma, and anything can happen, but if chuck had to lose wouldn't you rather see him lose to wandi rather than jardine.....wake up dana and start making the fights people really want to see. you finally have your wish and have contracts for just about all the top fighters and you make a headlining match up like this, disappointing.

This fight would have made sense if Jardine had won his last fight, but the fact is he got his ass beat by Houston Alexander in about a minuet. This fight doesn't make sense for so many reasons. I don't have a problem with Liddell getting to fight someone who isn't a top 5 fighter to get himself back mentaly, but Jardine? WTF? sure I will enjoy watching Jardine get his ass handed to him. I no I loved watching Alexander do it, that was an awsome TKO. However there are a few guys out there who deserve a shot to make a name for themself more then Jardine. Really what has he done to deserve this shot? Beat Griffen? OK thats respectable, he even made him cry. But wouldn't everyone like to see Jardine Vs Griffen 2, way more then this fight. I think that fight makes alot more sense for Jardine, make him prove it wasn't a fluke, and give a deserving Griffen a shot to redeem himself. As for Liddell, the problem is there aren't alot of fights out there that make sense for him outside the 3 or 4 elite fighters in this Division. So mabey instead of rewarding Jardine for losing to Houston Alexander, Why don't they reward Alexander for beating Jardine? Mabey I'm crazy but that seems logical to me. I no that was Houston's first UFC fight but I think he is schedualed to fight Alessio Sakara at UFC 75. So if he wins that convincingly give him to Liddell. I no The UFC is scared shitless about Chuck losing again, but he is a top of the food chain guy so he can't be going against guys who don't deserve to be where he is yet, just to get some highlight footage. Come on Dana, your better then that.

So if about sales???? So you think that those American fans will buy more For Jardine than for Shogun, in that situation they just want to see Chuck fighting because he's like a God for their ignorant minds, so you can throw Chuck in the octagon with the cashier from the grocery store in your street, and it will be the same. There a lot of footage to let the US fans know who's Shogun. Same story with Hendo, Dana called him to the octagon and he was carring the 2 Pride Belts. Do the same with Shogun in the next PPV show highlights from Pride GP 2005, footage with Rampage, "He comes to claim the Belt but he have to go trought Chuck" or they can promote him like the best LHW in MMA in the world, because that what he is.

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Posted by 40ouncetofreedom

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Posted by TOMMYAYO05

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How was Chuck being protected?? He fought everybody they put in front of him. He went to Pride and fight 3 times. This is getting crazy

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he is being protected by dana because dana try to lowball wandi because he dont want his boy to lose two in a row.

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I think Wandy just doesnt want to lose 3 in a row...and this would be the 3rd brutal beatdown in a row..I mean im a fan of pride as much as UFC...but cmon..all the nuthuggers come out..look what happens when you come over from pride most of their fighters have lost..Cro cop..Werdum..Herrings Debut....and Shogun is fighting Machida which isnt going to be an easy fight...and im curios to see how good his is gonna be without his stomps and kicks.but so far guys that have come from pride other than Rampage and Anderson SIlva havent faired that great in the UFC.

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How do you become a premium member around here?? If Wanderlei didn't want to lose three in a row, he wouldn't of said he'd take the fight this year after stating he wanted to sit the year out. 3rd brutal beatdown?? lol You're hilarious, Wanderlei would knock out Chuck in one round. Chuck has been outstruck by Rampage twice, Randy the 1st time, Tito the 2nd time, Vernon White for a while etc. Rampage couldn't box Silva, he got destroyed. Silva is way more of a complete fighter then Chuck, he has just as hard hands if not harder, faster, better combinations, muay thai, BJJ, good takedowns. Chuck has a straight right. WOW.

Lol you're joking right?? Cro Cop was arrogant, let me catch you up on something because clearly despite your claim you never watched PRIDE, he got knocked out by Kevin Randleman. He lost to Nog, he lost to Fedor. He lost to Wanderlei the first time (even though it was a draw)...it was the UFC that hyped him as the best, we all know there's a guy named Fedor that would run through any three guys in the UFC in one night. With that being said, watch what Cro Cop does now that he's pissed off and motivated, I smell doom for UFC heavyweights. Werdum?? He was never s**t in PRIDE, never. But he did knock out Gonzaga didn't he??? He was never top 5 in PRIDE and in UFC right away they throw him to Arlovski. Arlovski did nothing, so I don't see what your point is there. And finally Herring, thanks for exposing yourself as the UFC loyalist you are. Herring was never top 10 in PRIDE, Nog beat him twice, Fedor demolished him, and Cro Cop almost killed him. He hadn't fought in the org for years, he comes to UFC, they build him up as this great PRIDE HW. If you actually watched PRIDE instead of pretending you do then I guess you would know he was never any good. But like usual you bought into the UFC hype machine. You're "curios" to see how Shogun will do without stomps and knees to the head on the ground?? Well I got an idea, watch his fight vs Overeem (number 2) in Vegas, and his fight vs Randleman in Vegas. Then watch him destroy the UFC poster boy Rampage in 5 minutes all standing, with strikes he could use in UFC. Then watch him destroy Ricardo Arona and out BJJ Lil Nog. Maybe then it will finally sink in that PRIDE's talent is vastly superior to UFC's and you have no idea what you're talking about therefore shouldn't speak.

BTW, Rampage and A. Silva could never win the strap in PRIDE, and both at the end of their PRIDE careers were mediocre, they come to the UFC and dominate. Hmmm, I wonder why.

this card is shaping up to be a real good card but i would be there if liddle fought silva

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Posted by thejuice

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Posted by 40ouncetofreedom

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Posted by TOMMYAYO05

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How was Chuck being protected?? He fought everybody they put in front of him. He went to Pride and fight 3 times. This is getting crazy

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he is being protected by dana because dana try to lowball wandi because he dont want his boy to lose two in a row.

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I think Wandy just doesnt want to lose 3 in a row...and this would be the 3rd brutal beatdown in a row..I mean im a fan of pride as much as UFC...but cmon..all the nuthuggers come out..look what happens when you come over from pride most of their fighters have lost..Cro cop..Werdum..Herrings Debut....and Shogun is fighting Machida which isnt going to be an easy fight...and im curios to see how good his is gonna be without his stomps and kicks.but so far guys that have come from pride other than Rampage and Anderson SIlva havent faired that great in the UFC.

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How do you become a premium member around here?? If Wanderlei didn't want to lose three in a row, he wouldn't of said he'd take the fight this year after stating he wanted to sit the year out. 3rd brutal beatdown?? lol You're hilarious, Wanderlei would knock out Chuck in one round. Chuck has been outstruck by Rampage twice, Randy the 1st time, Tito the 2nd time, Vernon White for a while etc. Rampage couldn't box Silva, he got destroyed. Silva is way more of a complete fighter then Chuck, he has just as hard hands if not harder, faster, better combinations, muay thai, BJJ, good takedowns. Chuck has a straight right. WOW.

Lol you're joking right?? Cro Cop was arrogant, let me catch you up on something because clearly despite your claim you never watched PRIDE, he got knocked out by Kevin Randleman. He lost to Nog, he lost to Fedor. He lost to Wanderlei the first time (even though it was a draw)...it was the UFC that hyped him as the best, we all know there's a guy named Fedor that would run through any three guys in the UFC in one night. With that being said, watch what Cro Cop does now that he's pissed off and motivated, I smell doom for UFC heavyweights. Werdum?? He was never s**t in PRIDE, never. But he did knock out Gonzaga didn't he??? He was never top 5 in PRIDE and in UFC right away they throw him to Arlovski. Arlovski did nothing, so I don't see what your point is there. And finally Herring, thanks for exposing yourself as the UFC loyalist you are. Herring was never top 10 in PRIDE, Nog beat him twice, Fedor demolished him, and Cro Cop almost killed him. He hadn't fought in the org for years, he comes to UFC, they build him up as this great PRIDE HW. If you actually watched PRIDE instead of pretending you do then I guess you would know he was never any good. But like usual you bought into the UFC hype machine. You're "curios" to see how Shogun will do without stomps and knees to the head on the ground?? Well I got an idea, watch his fight vs Overeem (number 2) in Vegas, and his fight vs Randleman in Vegas. Then watch him destroy the UFC poster boy Rampage in 5 minutes all standing, with strikes he could use in UFC. Then watch him destroy Ricardo Arona and out BJJ Lil Nog. Maybe then it will finally sink in that PRIDE's talent is vastly superior to UFC's and you have no idea what you're talking about therefore shouldn't speak.

BTW, Rampage and A. Silva could never win the strap in PRIDE, and both at the end of their PRIDE careers were mediocre, they come to the UFC and dominate. Hmmm, I wonder why.

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No are you serious? Shogun stomped and kneed to sh&t out of Page in that fight..

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Posted by ocho-cinco

This fight would have made sense if Jardine had won his last fight, but the fact is he got his ass beat by Houston Alexander in about a minuet. This fight doesn't make sense for so many reasons. I don't have a problem with Liddell getting to fight someone who isn't a top 5 fighter to get himself back mentaly, but Jardine? WTF? sure I will enjoy watching Jardine get his ass handed to him. I no I loved watching Alexander do it, that was an awsome TKO. However there are a few guys out there who deserve a shot to make a name for themself more then Jardine. Really what has he done to deserve this shot? Beat Griffen? OK thats respectable, he even made him cry. But wouldn't everyone like to see Jardine Vs Griffen 2, way more then this fight. I think that fight makes alot more sense for Jardine, make him prove it wasn't a fluke, and give a deserving Griffen a shot to redeem himself. As for Liddell, the problem is there aren't alot of fights out there that make sense for him outside the 3 or 4 elite fighters in this Division. So mabey instead of rewarding Jardine for losing to Houston Alexander, Why don't they reward Alexander for beating Jardine? Mabey I'm crazy but that seems logical to me. I no that was Houston's first UFC fight but I think he is schedualed to fight Alessio Sakara at UFC 75. So if he wins that convincingly give him to Liddell. I no The UFC is scared shitless about Chuck losing again, but he is a top of the food chain guy so he can't be going against guys who don't deserve to be where he is yet, just to get some highlight footage. Come on Dana, your better then that.

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its you know, not you no, sorry that bugs me. The fighters take the fights that are given to them. Alexander had one fight and caught Jardine. I'm not a jardine fan by any means but I also know if you were to throw Alexander to Liddell after just one fight he would get eatin alive. i "KNOW" Jardine will get eatin alive too, people will recognize jardine more. either way its just disappointing to see this fight. Franklin did the same thing though besides the okami fight. just a tune up fight i guess

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Posted by thejuice

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Posted by 40ouncetofreedom

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Posted by TOMMYAYO05

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How was Chuck being protected?? He fought everybody they put in front of him. He went to Pride and fight 3 times. This is getting crazy

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he is being protected by dana because dana try to lowball wandi because he dont want his boy to lose two in a row.

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I think Wandy just doesnt want to lose 3 in a row...and this would be the 3rd brutal beatdown in a row..I mean im a fan of pride as much as UFC...but cmon..all the nuthuggers come out..look what happens when you come over from pride most of their fighters have lost..Cro cop..Werdum..Herrings Debut....and Shogun is fighting Machida which isnt going to be an easy fight...and im curios to see how good his is gonna be without his stomps and kicks.but so far guys that have come from pride other than Rampage and Anderson SIlva havent faired that great in the UFC.

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How do you become a premium member around here?? If Wanderlei didn't want to lose three in a row, he wouldn't of said he'd take the fight this year after stating he wanted to sit the year out. 3rd brutal beatdown?? lol You're hilarious, Wanderlei would knock out Chuck in one round. Chuck has been outstruck by Rampage twice, Randy the 1st time, Tito the 2nd time, Vernon White for a while etc. Rampage couldn't box Silva, he got destroyed. Silva is way more of a complete fighter then Chuck, he has just as hard hands if not harder, faster, better combinations, muay thai, BJJ, good takedowns. Chuck has a straight right. WOW.

Lol you're joking right?? Cro Cop was arrogant, let me catch you up on something because clearly despite your claim you never watched PRIDE, he got knocked out by Kevin Randleman. He lost to Nog, he lost to Fedor. He lost to Wanderlei the first time (even though it was a draw)...it was the UFC that hyped him as the best, we all know there's a guy named Fedor that would run through any three guys in the UFC in one night. With that being said, watch what Cro Cop does now that he's pissed off and motivated, I smell doom for UFC heavyweights. Werdum?? He was never s**t in PRIDE, never. But he did knock out Gonzaga didn't he??? He was never top 5 in PRIDE and in UFC right away they throw him to Arlovski. Arlovski did nothing, so I don't see what your point is there. And finally Herring, thanks for exposing yourself as the UFC loyalist you are. Herring was never top 10 in PRIDE, Nog beat him twice, Fedor demolished him, and Cro Cop almost killed him. He hadn't fought in the org for years, he comes to UFC, they build him up as this great PRIDE HW. If you actually watched PRIDE instead of pretending you do then I guess you would know he was never any good. But like usual you bought into the UFC hype machine. You're "curios" to see how Shogun will do without stomps and knees to the head on the ground?? Well I got an idea, watch his fight vs Overeem (number 2) in Vegas, and his fight vs Randleman in Vegas. Then watch him destroy the UFC poster boy Rampage in 5 minutes all standing, with strikes he could use in UFC. Then watch him destroy Ricardo Arona and out BJJ Lil Nog. Maybe then it will finally sink in that PRIDE's talent is vastly superior to UFC's and you have no idea what you're talking about therefore shouldn't speak.

BTW, Rampage and A. Silva could never win the strap in PRIDE, and both at the end of their PRIDE careers were mediocre, they come to the UFC and dominate. Hmmm, I wonder why.

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Hmmm, I wonder why.

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Cause your on Prides Nuts

and PRIDE doesnt have any Talent left really...hmm whens the next pride event...cro cop rampage Asilva Hendo werdum Herring Big Nog Shogun Mach Aurelio UFC Now...Pride is pretty much dead dude..i could say that 3-5 years ago pride IMO had Better fighters but those fighters arent there anymore..

and to say ive never watched Pride..hahaha nah i dont how to use youtube or my dvd player...just recently picked up Pride Legacy DVD from 17-22 only 30 bucks at FYE






Oh yeah I forgot look at Nick Diaz..lost to some top guys in the UFC then goes to Pride and Gogos Gomi.

well forget Shogun vs Chuck I would have rather seen Babalu vs Shogun 2
The last time I saw shogun in a cage he got Choked by this guy Tito calls a "B level fighter" untill Shogun can prove he can fight under american rules in a cage I wouldnt talk like he is big and bad in the cage
also with CroCop he couldnt hang on Courtures jock hell he couldnt even win the fight to get to fight courture he found out that the Octogon(cage) is no joke(PrideFC ring)
I would rather see Wandi vs Tito 2 as well
I have Been a MMA fan for some time Loved Pride R.I.P. as well as love the UFC live long and strong

Well the reason for diaz winning was because gomi didnt take him seriously and yeah i believe the welterweights are the only superior fighters over pride every other weight class is dominated by pride.

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Posted by TOMMYAYO05

Well the reason for diaz winning was because gomi didnt take him seriously and yeah i believe the welterweights are the only superior fighters over pride every other weight class is dominated by pride.

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Exactly, Gomi had a 102 degree fever and didn't even train, and that's no excuse, Diaz beat him. To think Diaz would go to PRIDE and run through everybody is hilarious. I already stated the UFC has the 170 division and that's it.

As for the guy bragging he just bought the Pride legacy dvd set for 30, that's great. I own every PRIDE and UFC event ever (bought the 170 DVD collection off ebay for $100) and have basically seen every mma event from the two, aside from lower level UFC cards. Three years ago? Try one year ago. I realize PRIDE is gone for now, and who knows, may never be back. The point is for the years they were around they did a lot more for the fans AND the fighters then UFC has done. Those were the golden years of mma. UFC could end up surpassing that, but with the recent business decisions (no Soko, Gomi, Overeem etc.) and matchmaking I don't see it happening. I see a waste of a merger.

As for the guy claiming Shogun got choked out in a cage and he's a nobody until he learns the cage, and the ring in PRIDE's a joke, I got a question. What happened to Chuck when he fought in the ring?? How'd he do?? The difference between the cage and ring isn't that great, it's the rules between the two orgs. Shogun was 21 and has since become a BJJ master including owning Lil Nog and Arona on the ground, he would make mincemeat out of Babalu. Mop the floor with him. Shogun used stomps and knees to beat Rampage?? You must've watched a different fight. Shogun owned Rampage STANDING with boxing and the muay thai clinch, shattering his ribs with knees, and finally after Rampage took too much of a beating he slumped in the corner and Shogun kicked him IN THE BODY (WHICH WOULD BE LEGAL IN UFC) and the ref dived in. Next time watch the fight.

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Posted by SpiderSilva

well forget Shogun vs Chuck I would have rather seen Babalu vs Shogun 2
The last time I saw shogun in a cage he got Choked by this guy Tito calls a "B level fighter" untill Shogun can prove he can fight under american rules in a cage I wouldnt talk like he is big and bad in the cage
also with CroCop he couldnt hang on Courtures jock hell he couldnt even win the fight to get to fight courture he found out that the Octogon(cage) is no joke(PrideFC ring)
I would rather see Wandi vs Tito 2 as well
I have Been a MMA fan for some time Loved Pride R.I.P. as well as love the UFC live long and strong

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Hang on Randy's jock? Randy's jock would be hanging from the rafters if they fought, Randy's head would be close by after being kicked off. I may be wrong but I believe when I watched wandy tito I saw tito acctually turn his back and run...wow good job UFC there. You put a focused Mirko in a cage when he's acctually traind there trust me he'll dominate every UFC heavy weight. Big nog will crush any of them on the ground, fedor will just plain crush them, Barnett was the UFC champ, didn't get it in pride, Arlovski coulden't finish werdum, Mirko, fedor, barnett, hell wandy would probly kill him, big tim....well...I know people don't like to face it but the PRIDE HW LHW and LW div are much better then the UFC's then UFC's WW div is better then prides.

Jardine = Knocked Out

First off ive never Bragged about owning anything...you made a statement that ive never seen a pride event..I just stated that i own a few pride dvds...and just cause you own 170 MMA dvds does not make any more knowledgable than anyone else on here...unfortunatly opinions are like assholes and we all have one...and thats all we do is speak what we think or feel...any 1 fighter..especially chuck and wandy have the ability to knock anyone out with 1 punch or kick.I dont know what hole or gutter you climbed out of from sherdog...But you seem like your the E BULLY who has bag on everyone for their posts...cause you think your some MMA messiah or something..get over yourself man and deal with others opinions...opinions are not right or wrong...

peace

Ps...learn to read and observe...it dont take much to be a Premium member...im sure you can see the GO PREMIUM AD banner on your screen...and all you need is checkcard or paypal account..

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Posted by SpiderSilva

well forget Shogun vs Chuck I would have rather seen Babalu vs Shogun 2
The last time I saw shogun in a cage he got Choked by this guy Tito calls a "B level fighter" untill Shogun can prove he can fight under american rules in a cage I wouldnt talk like he is big and bad in the cage
also with CroCop he couldnt hang on Courtures jock hell he couldnt even win the fight to get to fight courture he found out that the Octogon(cage) is no joke(PrideFC ring)
I would rather see Wandi vs Tito 2 as well
I have Been a MMA fan for some time Loved Pride R.I.P. as well as love the UFC live long and strong

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Hang on Randy's jock? Randy's jock would be hanging from the rafters if they fought, Randy's head would be close by after being kicked off. I may be wrong but I believe when I watched wandy tito I saw tito acctually turn his back and run...wow good job UFC there. You put a focused Mirko in a cage when he's acctually traind there trust me he'll dominate every UFC heavy weight. Big nog will crush any of them on the ground, fedor will just plain crush them, Barnett was the UFC champ, didn't get it in pride, Arlovski coulden't finish werdum, Mirko, fedor, barnett, hell wandy would probly kill him, big tim....well...I know people don't like to face it but the PRIDE HW LHW and LW div are much better then the UFC's then UFC's WW div is better then prides.

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Isnt that too bad CroCop cant come in reay to fight no wonder why he cant win a belt in Pride of the UFC(blew his shot that was handed to him by not showing up then)
Who care that Prides fighters might be better they are all MMA(UFC) fighters now Fedor soon to follow
until they come in and win then we can see
Plus Tito won that is all that matters
maybe Tito can light another fire under his(Wandi) ass
also Arlovski did win you dont have to finish a guy to win

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Posted by 40ouncetofreedom

First off ive never Bragged about owning anything...you made a statement that ive never seen a pride event..I just stated that i own a few pride dvds...and just cause you own 170 MMA dvds does not make any more knowledgable than anyone else on here...unfortunatly opinions are like assholes and we all have one...and thats all we do is speak what we think or feel...any 1 fighter..especially chuck and wandy have the ability to knock anyone out with 1 punch or kick.I dont know what hole or gutter you climbed out of from sherdog...But you seem like your the E BULLY who has bag on everyone for their posts...cause you think your some MMA messiah or something..get over yourself man and deal with others opinions...opinions are not right or wrong...


Ps...learn to read and observe...it dont take much to be a Premium member...im sure you can see the GO PREMIUM AD banner on your screen...and all you need is checkcard or paypal account..

Reading is Fundamental

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I'm going to hold back a lot of what I would normally say because I don't want to be banned. I have 6 props in what? 12 posts?? I wonder why. You have 12 in over 170, so it's clear who agrees with who around here. Yes, the fact I've seen every PRIDE and most UFC events would help my knowledge, I thought that was obvious, but apparently not. Sherdog?? Never had an account there. E-bully?? Sorry, didn't mean to intimidate you. MMA Messiah?? Hmm, never considered myself one, but thanks for the nickname, I'll probably throw that up in my profile. Reading is fundamental, as is spelling, too bad you lack both skills. On a side note the only thing you'd brag about is making my "girlies" panties moist?? lol and I come from Sherdog?? Pleeeeeeease, keep being the internet Casanova, because you can't bag anything in the real world, and I'll keep making you look ridiculous even though you do a good enough job of that on your own.

P.S. You made no points about mma in that entire post, other then Silva and Chuck could knock out somebody with 1 punch, check their fights against Rampage, neither could KO him with a punch. Good try though. Better run off to bestbuy and pick up Final Conflict 2003 and High Octane.

Isnt that too bad CroCop cant come in reay to fight no wonder why he cant win a belt in Pride of the UFC(blew his shot that was handed to him by not showing up then)
Who care that Prides fighters might be better they are all MMA(UFC) fighters now Fedor soon to follow
until they come in and win then we can see
Plus Tito won that is all that matters
maybe Tito can light another fire under his(Wandi) ass
also Arlovski did win you dont have to finish a guy to win

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What?? Cro Cop won the OWGP title in 2006, maybe you should do some more research. He knocked out Yoshida, Wanderlei and Barnett on his way to that belt. Right there that's more impressive then anything you idol Capt. America has ever done at HW. Since when is MMA (UFC)??? What about K-1, EliteXC, Bodog etc.?? Until they come in and win we will see?? I find that an ironic post coming from a guy named SpiderSilva, did you ever see his PRIDE career?? FAR from impressive, how'd he do in UFC?? Rampage?? Tito won that's all that matters?? That was a long time ago, and the guy literally turned around and ran. He hung out on top of Silva and did nothing in a brutal fight. What a warrior. Tito can light a fire under Silva?? lol Tito isn't even in the same league, why would Silva fight somebody who took Rashad to a draw and barely beat Forrest Griffin?? Arlovski won, but he did nothing, Nog did more damage to Werdum standing in PRIDE then Arlovski did. By the way, what happened when Werdum fought Gonzaga??? That's what I thought.