Liddell move to Heavyweight
Ultimate_fighter
5/27/07 7:25:41PM
Who thinks liddell should move to heavyweight? i honestly think its bad, when he got clipped by rampage, we finally see his chin is gettin' weaker.
I don't think it would be the smartest idea at the moment espeically since he just got KO'd. I'm not saying he shouldn't move up but I don't think he should do before getting his belt back.
skiba97
5/27/07 7:32:30PM
I think he should stay at LHW. Hopefully, he'l get his belt back and retire a champ, which imo is what he deserves. Hes got nothing to prove going to up to heavyweight to fight randy again.
richieb19
5/27/07 7:34:15PM
How exactly is his chin getting weaker??? He hot clipped with a hook he never saw coming!
Yes he should move to HW. At this point watching him climb the ladder again in the LHW division would be boring.
hughesfan1
5/27/07 8:12:24PM
Posted by Mayo
Yes he should move to HW. At this point watching him climb the ladder again in the LHW division would be boring.
______________________________________________________________Boring ? The Iceman is never boring ! He'll climb back up the LHW ladder and be better than ever !
unclephish
5/27/07 10:02:14PM
i think if couture defeats gonzaga they could possibly set up chuck/randy 4 for the heavyweight belt.
cmill21
5/27/07 10:35:39PM
I don't think he should move up, I don't get why people think chuck's so good, he's always fought lesser opponenets, had he fought in Pride against Shogun, wanderlei, ect. he would be a 'good' fighter. So if he moves up he's going to have to fight strikers like mirko, and ground and pounders like fedor.
MattHughesFan
5/27/07 11:55:13PM
Like i mentioned in a previous thread i think liddell's only got around 4 fights left in him and if randy gets past GG then theres a very good chance liddell will move up to HW to fight him. after all he's been saying he wanted to move up to HW for about 3 years now.
Posted by Ultimate_fighter
Who thinks liddell should move to heavyweight? i honestly think its bad, when he got clipped by rampage, we finally see his chin is gettin' weaker.
i wouldnt really call it clipped...he got nailed
Cobbs666
5/28/07 5:18:51PM
POLL needs more options, he should not move to heavyweight or get "THE" belt back (not his belt it is rampages belt), i choose not to vote
madmarck
5/28/07 5:21:44PM
Posted by Ultimate_fighter
Who thinks liddell should move to heavyweight? i honestly think its bad, when he got clipped by rampage, we finally see his chin is gettin' weaker.
Who is gonna hit Chuck harder than a Lightheavyweight.................... maybe a heavyweight. IE Cro Cop.
You do realize Chuck Liddell only walks around at 210. He is a samll LHW. If he was gonan mmove back to 185 would be his best move.
ManBeast
5/28/07 6:26:22PM
chuck going down the 185, is an interesting idea. at least he would get rid of his beer gut.
I know I should'nt judge a fighter on his appearance but damn his potbelly has been bothering me for a long time now...
DJDark41
5/28/07 8:19:07PM
Posted by cmill21
I don't think he should move up, I don't get why people think chuck's so good, he's always fought lesser opponenets, had he fought in Pride against Shogun, wanderlei, ect. he would be a 'good' fighter. So if he moves up he's going to have to fight strikers like mirko, and ground and pounders like fedor.
Honestly, how'd you get in my camp? Your gonna tell me...that Tito Ortiz, Randy Couture, Vitor Belfort, Jeremy Horn, Guy Mezger, Kevin Randleman, Jeff Monson, and Murilo Bustamante are LESSER OPPONENTS?! You must be cracked out of your mind. So your saying, being one of the most dominant fighters in the history of the UFC, makes him a bad fighter because he didn't fight in PRIDE? Chuck Liddell will probably fight CroCop if he moves to heavyweight relatively soon, just because they both have to come back off devastating KO losses. Chuck vs Fedor? HELL NO. Randy Couture vs Fedor? That would end the world. I apologize for ranting like that, but I think that is the biggest pile of garbage I've read, probably ever.
hughesfan1
5/28/07 8:26:59PM
MattHughesFan
5/29/07 12:03:24AM
alright guys u have to tone it down a bit to. were team mates here and everyone is entitled to their opinion just tone it down a bitt
Believe-in-judo81
5/29/07 12:07:34AM
No way, stay at light heavy and fight the big boys from CB, then bow out of the sport and into the hall of fame. Chuck at HW would probabally end badly assuming he fought guys Lie CC, Nog, AA etc.
Liddells Pit is not that great of a camp when u got dimebag tellin his own camp they are, in better lack of words, RETARDED. Liddell is a badass and will always be one. But Rampage is also a badass, and so is Hendo, and so is Wandy (even though retarded people from Liddells Pit think he is not a option for the iceman because he lost to Cro Cop and Henderson by KO), and so forth and so forth. All I can say is it's MMA and it will always be a up in the air fight against oppents with the caliber of skill all the elite fighters have. So please stop talkin crap about anyone, unless they're Gabe Ruediger.
tomp6581
5/29/07 1:11:32PM
He should stay at LHW. Fights against Wandy and Shogun are big money makers.....that is how ufc will look at it.....OR.....if liddell decides he only has a couple of fights left in him, Dana might let him fight who he wants (wandy, crocop, fedor)
MattHughesFan
5/29/07 4:15:33PM
Liddells Pit is not that great of a camp when u got dimebag tellin his own camp they are, in better lack of words, RETARDED. Liddell is a badass and will always be one. But Rampage is also a badass, and so is Hendo, and so is Wandy (even though retarded people from Liddells Pit think he is not a option for the iceman because he lost to Cro Cop and Henderson by KO), and so forth and so forth. All I can say is it's MMA and it will always be a up in the air fight against oppents with the caliber of skill all the elite fighters have. So please stop talkin crap about anyone, unless they're Gabe Ruediger.
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Yeah one member of our camp was saying that, that makes us all retarded.
CaseyKrajenka
5/29/07 4:43:13PM
I think it would be entertaining to see Chuck move up to HW. I wonder if he would be able to be as dominant at the HW ranking as he has been in LHW. hmmm......
TheHitmanTL
5/30/07 1:12:54AM
chuck would be so fat at HW hes fat as it is at LHW nope stay at 205
Leland
5/30/07 11:49:51AM
Chuck has the gut for being a HW haha. i thought he was pregnant during the rampage fight.
move up................. everybody says hes one of the best strikers ever lets put that to the test
Pitbull09
7/22/07 10:26:36PM
I dont even understand why people would want this, The LHW division is being dominated by Chuck and Rapage (Henderson soon). If Chuck went to heavy, he would face ten times harder competition just to get a title shot, need to gain weight (my opinion, hes alrdy not in shape for LHW, more fat wouldnt help him), and he would never get to avenge his fight with Jackson which its been his mission to avenge all his losses for the past 2 years.
No way Chuck will leave all this.
mkiv9secsupra
7/22/07 11:11:19PM
Posted by Pitbull09
If Chuck went to heavy, he would face ten times harder competition just to get a title shot, need to gain weight (my opinion, hes alrdy not in shape for LHW, more fat wouldnt help him),
why would chuck need to gain weight....he walks around at about 225.....
Chuck's been "talking" about a lot of things. He'll never move to HW . CC walks around at about the same weight Chuck does.
And Couture would dominate Chuck at HW. A lot of extra power and his cardio is great, he would easily wear Chuck down and pound him out or maybe even sub. Fedor would brutalize him easily.
Chuck vs any top HW fighter would be a joke. Chuck knows this and doesn't want to compromise his "false" legacy.
He'll never get any belt again so it doesn't really matter where he goes. I do want to see Wandy put him in his place though, and so do a lot of fans, so that should be his next/last fight if he gets past Jardine. Wandy will probably retire him anyway, and it will be the end of all this Chuck worship.
cmill21
7/23/07 3:30:46AM
HAHAHA I just read this thread...Yes I do consider Horn, Tito, White, Monson, and Sobral lesser opponents. Tito can't beat anyone but shamrock, Horn is a natural 185, White(25-31 need I say more). He's fought how many people that can hit back? Not many, and 1 of them KO'd him twice. If you don't think I belong in your camp then i'll leave, lol might cry but i'll leave. If your so conviced that Chuck's the shit then why does he only fight wrestlers? Coddled a bit by dana perhaps? Why is he fighting Jardine? Especially when shoguns sitting right there on the same card? I'm sorry but I think chucks career is tainted by all of the wrestlers he's fought. Maybe i'm wrong, but he's going to have to fight someone like shogun, or wandy, or even have a competitive fight with rampage(sure we'll see #3 soon since he's dana's baby). Even if you don't agree you have to wonder why he keeps getting wrestlers. Luck of the draw? Oh and he beat Mezgner on the back half of his career, be honest.
hippysmacker
7/23/07 5:14:37AM
Posted by richieb19
How exactly is his chin getting weaker??? He hot clipped with a hook he never saw coming!
I agree, and he didn't get TKOed by one punch. He was still wide awake he just got knocked down by the first punch. The fight was stopped after he took about three good punches and an elbow. No shame in being knocked down, and it was n't the first time in his career. Rampage and Randy had both knocked him doen with strikes just off the top of my head. I've seen Wandy get knocked down plenty of times also, but both of them just usually get up. As for going to HVY, I say no. I think he was only considering it before because he had beat the best of the UFC's roster. With so many guys coming form Pride that he hasn't beat I think he will want to stay at 205.
Taylor8766
7/23/07 11:51:47AM
Liddell would most likely stand a good chance at the HW division but I think he should stay at LHW because the competition is getting stronger, especially with Shogun and Henderson, and eventually Silva, so I think he should stay at LHW and prove that he is the best at 205lbs.