Let's face it, UFC is plain boring
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grappler0000
11/4/07 9:48:49AM
First, a disclaimer for all the low-brow, mouth-breathing Neanderthals who threatened bodily harm the last time I wrote on this subject: This is only my opinion.
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ohiostate1016
11/4/07 10:05:26AM
First of all, wow. I don't know what else to say to that. Appearantly, we'll never capture the attention of some of these right-wing idiots that think this is human cockfighting.
And for that, I blame Din Thomas. He should never, ever be allowed to fight in a sanctioned MMA event again. As long as idiots like him are doing this illegally, then MMA will never be looked upon as legit. I call for an all-out ban of Din Thomas, a guy I never really liked in the first place. An overrated guy who kept getting chance for some reason, perhaps becuase he's one of the top minorities in this sport. But he isn't that good. I, for one, hope we never see or hear from him again.
Enough on Thomas, and back to McNulty. I have no idea with him bashing MMA, but he doesn't know how to do it. The worst part of it is that he randomly compared MMA to boxing. For the 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000th time, MMA is NOT boxing. Yes, boxing is ONE PART of MMA, but they are not one in the same. I'm a boxing fan, but there is no way that they are the same. The fact that McNulty claims "None of these guys would've lasted 30 seconds with a young Mike Tyson, or Roberto Duran, or any of the great fighters of yesteryear" is laughable. Just plain laughable.
Here's another quote that is rediculous: "it's more like some PG-rated version of professional wrestling, another entertainment genre that shamelessly sells brutality and violence to pseudo-tough guys." What?????? This guy is an idiot, and I, for one, can't look past that. I'm done reading this and talking about it, but I do have one more point.
He does have one decent point. Kids are watching this and thinking that they can do it in their backyards without any training. I say that the UFC should have a campaign something similar to the WWE's "Please. Don't Try This At Home," where the top stars tell kids it is not cool to try MMA out youself. It could be something that tells them to get training if they want to fight. I am not right-wing, but I do agree that the company could do something to pull kids away from streetfighting and into training. It could even help the UFC and MMA, as more kids would train, and the better athletes could come to MMA. That's it, I'm done.
And for that, I blame Din Thomas. He should never, ever be allowed to fight in a sanctioned MMA event again. As long as idiots like him are doing this illegally, then MMA will never be looked upon as legit. I call for an all-out ban of Din Thomas, a guy I never really liked in the first place. An overrated guy who kept getting chance for some reason, perhaps becuase he's one of the top minorities in this sport. But he isn't that good. I, for one, hope we never see or hear from him again.
Enough on Thomas, and back to McNulty. I have no idea with him bashing MMA, but he doesn't know how to do it. The worst part of it is that he randomly compared MMA to boxing. For the 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000th time, MMA is NOT boxing. Yes, boxing is ONE PART of MMA, but they are not one in the same. I'm a boxing fan, but there is no way that they are the same. The fact that McNulty claims "None of these guys would've lasted 30 seconds with a young Mike Tyson, or Roberto Duran, or any of the great fighters of yesteryear" is laughable. Just plain laughable.
Here's another quote that is rediculous: "it's more like some PG-rated version of professional wrestling, another entertainment genre that shamelessly sells brutality and violence to pseudo-tough guys." What?????? This guy is an idiot, and I, for one, can't look past that. I'm done reading this and talking about it, but I do have one more point.
He does have one decent point. Kids are watching this and thinking that they can do it in their backyards without any training. I say that the UFC should have a campaign something similar to the WWE's "Please. Don't Try This At Home," where the top stars tell kids it is not cool to try MMA out youself. It could be something that tells them to get training if they want to fight. I am not right-wing, but I do agree that the company could do something to pull kids away from streetfighting and into training. It could even help the UFC and MMA, as more kids would train, and the better athletes could come to MMA. That's it, I'm done.
Ordep
11/4/07 10:14:07AM
We need more Octagon Girls with less clothes, that will be a +1 to the UFC.
ohiostate1016
11/4/07 10:26:57AM
Posted by Ordep
We need more Octagon Girls with less clothes, that will be a +1 to the UFC.
Exactly the reason that MMA is seen as a joke...
Pitbull09
11/4/07 10:40:59AM
I dont understand how people like to compare MMA to Boxing in any way. He keeps saying how its a bore once the fight goes to the ground but probrually the last 10 boxing matches I have seen, it has been: Dancing around the ring, throw to weak punches and then clinch for ten minutes until the referee breaks it up. You would get fined in some MMA event for pulling of sh*it like that! But in the end, hes just apart of another million reporters who will chose to easily bash MMA rather than see the good in it.
rabbit915
11/4/07 10:52:16AM
I have had this opinion expressed by many of my friends while i force them to watch a fight with me to try to get them interested. I find that if people dont understand the mental chess match thats going on in the match they think the two guys are just laying on each other. You really need to understand the science of it to love it.
xburbx
11/4/07 10:54:06AM
In regards to your comments about boxing being a more athletic sport, it really doesnt make sense when you look at a fight like Kimbo Slice vs Ray Mercer. Kimbo had trained MMA for a short period of time before fighting Ray Mercer, the 1990 boxing heavy weight champion of the world. Kimbo beat him in 1 min in the first round with a submission. If you disregard the fact that a pure MMA fighter needs atleast 3 elements (BJJ, boxing, wrestling) to be a truly rounded fighter, then you are not giving credit to the fighters athleticism. Boxing is only 1 element of the sport so it clearly takes the more athletic person to be able to master MMA over a person that has only mastered boxing. I also disagree that these athletes would have lost to Mike Tyson. Mike Tyson might be able to punch through a brick wall, but he has no idea how to defend a double leg take down or a full mount pass. MMA is the core of sports. Sports are a showing of 1 opponent being able to overcome another. What better possible way is there to show that than in hand-to-hand combat with highly trained athletes. Hitting a golfball or playing pool are just watered down forms of competition. Even boxing is geared towards the same competitive basis, but boxing is watered down as well. I would suggest that you educate yourself more on the sport before watching it again. Someone that watches this sport prior to knowing anything about it would be taken back because they have no idea what is going on. They would make the same assumptions you made.
V10_07
11/4/07 10:56:24AM
All I can really say to those nay sayers is try it.
Go to a do jo and take a few classes see whats really involved.
Just watching isn't always enough for some people.
Go to a do jo and take a few classes see whats really involved.
Just watching isn't always enough for some people.
Vendetta
11/4/07 10:59:47AM
That guy needs to visit a few jiu jitsu classes.
Aether
11/4/07 11:07:39AM
whenever someone I know starts talking about how they find the groundgame boring/gay talking about how they just lay on each other I just show them sakuraba vs carlos newton at PRIDE 3. Even people with absolutely no understanding of jiujitsu have to acknowledge the skill and athleticism involved in grappling when they see a display like that.
I think a big part of the problem is that grappling is highly technical and most of what is going on is so subtle that people don't notice it unless they have some knowledge of the sport to begin with. I used to think the same way about grappling until I watched enough to understand what was going on, and then actually started practicing it myself. I can't really blame people for thinking that way, it's just what it looks like when you don't know what's going on.
I think a big part of the problem is that grappling is highly technical and most of what is going on is so subtle that people don't notice it unless they have some knowledge of the sport to begin with. I used to think the same way about grappling until I watched enough to understand what was going on, and then actually started practicing it myself. I can't really blame people for thinking that way, it's just what it looks like when you don't know what's going on.
jocksmall
11/4/07 11:09:27AM
u shouldnt assume that rightwinged poeple are the main opposition to mma because the right will be more likely to protect your freedom , not trying to make it political but i believe its a common misperception, look who does most of the regulation and has more gov involvement in poeples life
Posted by ohiostate1016
First of all, wow. I don't know what else to say to that. Appearantly, we'll never capture the attention of some of these right-wing idiots that think this is human cockfighting.
And for that, I blame Din Thomas. He should never, ever be allowed to fight in a sanctioned MMA event again. As long as idiots like him are doing this illegally, then MMA will never be looked upon as legit. I call for an all-out ban of Din Thomas, a guy I never really liked in the first place. An overrated guy who kept getting chance for some reason, perhaps becuase he's one of the top minorities in this sport. But he isn't that good. I, for one, hope we never see or hear from him again.
Enough on Thomas, and back to McNulty. I have no idea with him bashing MMA, but he doesn't know how to do it. The worst part of it is that he randomly compared MMA to boxing. For the 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000th time, MMA is NOT boxing. Yes, boxing is ONE PART of MMA, but they are not one in the same. I'm a boxing fan, but there is no way that they are the same. The fact that McNulty claims "None of these guys would've lasted 30 seconds with a young Mike Tyson, or Roberto Duran, or any of the great fighters of yesteryear" is laughable. Just plain laughable.
Here's another quote that is rediculous: "it's more like some PG-rated version of professional wrestling, another entertainment genre that shamelessly sells brutality and violence to pseudo-tough guys." What?????? This guy is an idiot, and I, for one, can't look past that. I'm done reading this and talking about it, but I do have one more point.
He does have one decent point. Kids are watching this and thinking that they can do it in their backyards without any training. I say that the UFC should have a campaign something similar to the WWE's "Please. Don't Try This At Home," where the top stars tell kids it is not cool to try MMA out youself. It could be something that tells them to get training if they want to fight. I am not right-wing, but I do agree that the company could do something to pull kids away from streetfighting and into training. It could even help the UFC and MMA, as more kids would train, and the better athletes could come to MMA. That's it, I'm done.
john mccain callen the ufc human cockfighting this is true but he said that before the ufc had matchmakers who made less one-sided fights and disallowed groin shots and eye-gouges and fish-hooks. i have always wathched the ufc and some of my favorite fights were early ones but i can understand that some would critisize the early ufc. mccain has backed off since the ufc is now more mainstream and widely accepted as a legitamate sport.
HighKick07
11/4/07 11:38:56AM
why do ppl come to this site to talk crap.if u dont like it why are u here.must have a boring life,with nothing better to do.go back to ur wwf or chearleading u watch on a daily basis.
Ordep
11/4/07 12:03:26PM
Posted by ohiostate1016
Posted by Ordep
We need more Octagon Girls with less clothes, that will be a +1 to the UFC.
Exactly the reason that MMA is seen as a joke...
Proof that people take some things too seriously that make themselves blind to jokes...
fullfighting
11/4/07 12:08:58PM
Who cares what Ray Mcnulty thinks. He doesn't understand MMA, so who gives a rats ass what he thinks. Bottom line this sport continues to get bigger and bigger and boxing continues its downward spiral. Not that I want that I like boxing but MMA is dominating in the US right now. Ray should just stick to writing about sports he knows about like balet and womens figure skating.
jae_1833
11/4/07 12:27:49PM
I'm going to keep it simple...F this guy!
Sir_Karl
11/4/07 12:30:45PM
More garbage talk. Everyone bitches about MMA. The supposed fans bitch more than the detractors and opponents.
If you don't like MMA, shut up, turn it off and go find something you do like...if that's possible...
If you don't like MMA, shut up, turn it off and go find something you do like...if that's possible...
Ultimate_fighter
11/4/07 12:32:33PM
Posted by Ordep
Posted by ohiostate1016
Posted by Ordep
We need more Octagon Girls with less clothes, that will be a +1 to the UFC.
Exactly the reason that MMA is seen as a joke...
Proof that people take some things too seriously that make themselves blind to jokes...
It was a dumb joke tho...and i agree... that is the reason that mma is seen as a joke...
wapttn
11/4/07 12:36:58PM
lol.. i thought it was funny ^^
This article is through and through a great example of someone who knows very little about the sport, yet tries to criticize it. Ali wouldnt last 5 minutes in the cage with the first guy eliminated from any of the TUF series. Why? because they're not the same sport. Its like putting lance armstrong in triathalon if he didnt know how to swim.
He's taken all of the ignorant criticisms of the last few years and used them to write an article. And you know what.. everyone is entitled to their opinion, the doode can think and say whatever he wants, and i dont think it's gonna hurt the sport's reputation. Look at the response to this article, he looks like a bitch more than anything.
The one thing i dont like about this article though is the name calling. **** you. And dont try and drag the kids into this. I have younger siblings who watch this stuff, and i have friends who have younger siblings who watch. A few of them have asked to start taking "ufc classes" and they've even started trying submission grappling on their own when the parents arent looking. The difference between that and the play fighting they'd be doing otherwise at that age is that they're doing it with some amazing sportsmanship and have a great fundemental meaning of what it means to tap out -- that was a great submission, lets go again.
This article is through and through a great example of someone who knows very little about the sport, yet tries to criticize it. Ali wouldnt last 5 minutes in the cage with the first guy eliminated from any of the TUF series. Why? because they're not the same sport. Its like putting lance armstrong in triathalon if he didnt know how to swim.
He's taken all of the ignorant criticisms of the last few years and used them to write an article. And you know what.. everyone is entitled to their opinion, the doode can think and say whatever he wants, and i dont think it's gonna hurt the sport's reputation. Look at the response to this article, he looks like a bitch more than anything.
The one thing i dont like about this article though is the name calling. **** you. And dont try and drag the kids into this. I have younger siblings who watch this stuff, and i have friends who have younger siblings who watch. A few of them have asked to start taking "ufc classes" and they've even started trying submission grappling on their own when the parents arent looking. The difference between that and the play fighting they'd be doing otherwise at that age is that they're doing it with some amazing sportsmanship and have a great fundemental meaning of what it means to tap out -- that was a great submission, lets go again.
Ordep
11/4/07 12:50:07PM
Posted by Ultimate_fighter
Posted by Ordep
Posted by ohiostate1016
Posted by Ordep
We need more Octagon Girls with less clothes, that will be a +1 to the UFC.
Exactly the reason that MMA is seen as a joke...
Proof that people take some things too seriously that make themselves blind to jokes...
It was a dumb joke tho...and i agree... that is the reason that mma is seen as a joke...
ever heard the word "sarcasm" ?
or is that prohibited among us mma fans?
oh wait...I'm not an mma fan just because I would like to see more girls in the PPV's .. lame!
unikcycle
11/4/07 4:30:43PM
"Ive seen better fight on "The Contender""
I think that pretty much sums up my opinion of him.
Im sure if the Zuffa's didn't show UFC live and instead took the bouts into the editing room and put every exchange and takedown in SLOW MOTION it would look way cooler to this guy.
I think that pretty much sums up my opinion of him.
Im sure if the Zuffa's didn't show UFC live and instead took the bouts into the editing room and put every exchange and takedown in SLOW MOTION it would look way cooler to this guy.
roadking95th
11/4/07 4:45:37PM
I guess I better stop watching since I am a right wing idiot
cmill21
11/4/07 4:50:16PM
I would like to see the UFC stand guys up more. Like Sherk puts me to sleep, it's great that he's a very good wrestler, and it's great that he's so strong but no one I know likes to watch him fight. Thats one of the reasons I don't think signing Lesnar was a good idea, he'll be overwhelmed with the striking of these guys and will then resort to lay n pray.
ohiostate1016
11/4/07 5:01:36PM
Posted by Ordep
Posted by ohiostate1016
Posted by Ordep
We need more Octagon Girls with less clothes, that will be a +1 to the UFC.
Exactly the reason that MMA is seen as a joke...
Proof that people take some things too seriously that make themselves blind to jokes...
There is a time to joke, and there is a time to be serious. And when someone is verbally bashing your favorite sport, you shouldn't respond with jokes.
I have almost come to the conclusion that a lot of MMA fans are exactly what this guy thinks they are. Just read the rest of this thread, and you will see very few intelligent arguments. You see guys says, "F this guy, he's an idiot," but people aren't backing it up. If you want to show him that we are better than he is, then respond with an intelligent arugment and he'll realize that he's outclassed. For the first time, the majority of MMA fans have disappointed me.
And, for those of you who don't know, McNulty has a history of being very conservative. My comments were not meant as an attack to all right-wing citizens, just to him. Sorry if I generalized too much there.
Vietnamese_Guy
11/4/07 6:04:00PM
who cares, ignore these morons. MMA is so big right now that a bunch of retard journalists spewing flaming crap doesn't do anything except show how ignorant these homos are.
stop getting your panties in a bunch, speaking of panties.....
Nude ring girls, make it happen dana
stop getting your panties in a bunch, speaking of panties.....
Nude ring girls, make it happen dana
KraziMonki
11/4/07 7:53:20PM
i agree that UFC is boring. Although they do have excellent talent with the occasional entertaining fight, but lets face it it is getting quite boring. BRING BACK PRIDE!
Scott_Revels
11/4/07 9:49:19PM
I'm not going to get onto him.. I wish he would keep his thoughts to himself. I can understand not being able to find the great things in a sport. Where I love and enjoy MMA, Football and sometimes Basketball, there are sports like Tennis, Soccer, Baseball, and Golf that I can't find anything redeeming in to warrant me watching. i don't however spend time talking about how I can't watch them, and then call them 'plain boring.' I would rather just spend more time looking up a fight that I have never seen than write up about how I didn't like Baseball.
Now, about the whole Din Thomas thing. I hate what he has done to the image of this sport. If he's innocent then he's innocent, but there will still be that black stain on the image of this sport. To the uneducated on this sport, there will always be this, "only prime apes watch MMA" mentality. Will that stop me from watching it? No. Like Sherk, I won't watch another of Din's fight unless he's proven innocent, but that's just me.
As for his whole, "pummeling somebody who's lying on his back, trying not to get hit" comment, that can't be helped.. If one of the fighters decides that he's given up, then that's him. The other guy isn't going to go to his corner and sit down, and wait for his opponent to work up the nerve to fight again. He's going to finish the fight. I could easily say that seeing boxer's backpedal to avoid getting hit is just as bad. I don't mind the backpedalling though.
As for the grapplers, there are four types of people out there.. The type who enjoys pure striking, the type who enjoys pure grappling, the type who enjoys both, and those out for blood. McNulty is either just a pure striking fan, or just out for blood. He shouldn't discredit grappling because he enjoys striking more.. In my opinion it takes twice as much skill to escape a submission than it does to duck a punch, but guess what, I love both. Seeing two guys swinging for the fences is just as exciting as seeing two skilled submission artists rolling around in a chess match of holds.
I do believe Mr. McNulty is an old schooler, because this sport is for the young. I watched UFC 72 at a local hooters, and 90% of the people there were under 30. When you see guys like Chris Horodecki(20), Tamdan McCrory(20), Joe Riggs(25), Diego Sanchez(26), and Joe Stevenson(25), you need not wonder if this sport is for the young people or the older generation. You can tell he's not meant for the UFC following, when he brings up a "young Mike Tyson" instead of current boxing stars, like Mayweather. The only problem is that the boxing world of yesteryears are not the same as these years, where there are 1000's of titles and no real #1.
Everyone has a problem with the 'more you drink, the tougher you are' fans. They are the same fans who boo when there isn't enough action. You just ignore them. Those same fans are also in boxing Mr. McNulty, so don't classify it as just the UFC's hardcore fan base, okay?
Either way. It's up to him if he thinks it's plain old boring.. Then let him think that. I know that not all fights are boring, because I and Penn, Edgar, Griffin, Guida, Florian, Tavarres, Silva, Franklin, Hamill, Couture, and so on would all disagree.
Now, about the whole Din Thomas thing. I hate what he has done to the image of this sport. If he's innocent then he's innocent, but there will still be that black stain on the image of this sport. To the uneducated on this sport, there will always be this, "only prime apes watch MMA" mentality. Will that stop me from watching it? No. Like Sherk, I won't watch another of Din's fight unless he's proven innocent, but that's just me.
As for his whole, "pummeling somebody who's lying on his back, trying not to get hit" comment, that can't be helped.. If one of the fighters decides that he's given up, then that's him. The other guy isn't going to go to his corner and sit down, and wait for his opponent to work up the nerve to fight again. He's going to finish the fight. I could easily say that seeing boxer's backpedal to avoid getting hit is just as bad. I don't mind the backpedalling though.
As for the grapplers, there are four types of people out there.. The type who enjoys pure striking, the type who enjoys pure grappling, the type who enjoys both, and those out for blood. McNulty is either just a pure striking fan, or just out for blood. He shouldn't discredit grappling because he enjoys striking more.. In my opinion it takes twice as much skill to escape a submission than it does to duck a punch, but guess what, I love both. Seeing two guys swinging for the fences is just as exciting as seeing two skilled submission artists rolling around in a chess match of holds.
I do believe Mr. McNulty is an old schooler, because this sport is for the young. I watched UFC 72 at a local hooters, and 90% of the people there were under 30. When you see guys like Chris Horodecki(20), Tamdan McCrory(20), Joe Riggs(25), Diego Sanchez(26), and Joe Stevenson(25), you need not wonder if this sport is for the young people or the older generation. You can tell he's not meant for the UFC following, when he brings up a "young Mike Tyson" instead of current boxing stars, like Mayweather. The only problem is that the boxing world of yesteryears are not the same as these years, where there are 1000's of titles and no real #1.
Everyone has a problem with the 'more you drink, the tougher you are' fans. They are the same fans who boo when there isn't enough action. You just ignore them. Those same fans are also in boxing Mr. McNulty, so don't classify it as just the UFC's hardcore fan base, okay?
Either way. It's up to him if he thinks it's plain old boring.. Then let him think that. I know that not all fights are boring, because I and Penn, Edgar, Griffin, Guida, Florian, Tavarres, Silva, Franklin, Hamill, Couture, and so on would all disagree.
CiaoBaby
11/4/07 10:11:08PM
I am going to sum up every post on this topic in the following paragraph, so for those you just reading it or checking in on previous posts, read this and no further to save yourself some time. Anyway, like any topic on earth you have a-holes on both sides of the fence trying to get a rise out of opposition in one direction or another. I have been following MMA probably before anyone on this site (although my season rank or record doesn’t reflect it). What I have to say to nay-sayers or those few boxing and combat sport "purists" is this. A corporation widely regarded as the "authority" in sports broadcasting, will continuously broadcast boxing, wrestling, kickboxing and from time to time Muy-Thia or BBJ tournaments, but the application of all these martial arts mixed into one bout is suddenly "not a sport". People look to get a reaction out of us and to prove their point in a hostel reaction from those few who threaten columists who comment on the sport ONLY TO GET THAT REACTION! Fellow fans, don’t give them the satisfaction! Times will change and soon enough those self appointed sports experts may even come around. Surely not everyone will the same way boxing or wrestling still draw people who cry violence or this or that. Sure kids will try it at home as they try to "pro"-wrestle, box or power ranger style kung-foo. Although, sure a disclaimer before an MMA event wouldn’t hurt. Scroll down and read opinions from all walks of life, but I say stop here to avoid the excruciating minutiae of everyday MMA arguments, now years and years old and surely years and years to come. And somebody give me props if you think I said it all.
McBee
11/4/07 11:54:12PM
what opposed to the crappy decision fights on EliteXC or IFL or Pride for that matter, someone ban the flamer, and no I did not read the the link because you packaged it in a way that made me know you were a flamer before opening it.
Trench777
11/5/07 1:29:48AM
Posted by Ordep
Posted by ohiostate1016
Posted by Ordep
We need more Octagon Girls with less clothes, that will be a +1 to the UFC.
Exactly the reason that MMA is seen as a joke...
Proof that people take some things too seriously that make themselves blind to jokes...
And the butt of them!
@ OhiostateT777
McBee
11/5/07 2:06:01AM
my bad I realized it could be a real writer and not a sherdog threadstarter. just another boxing vs mma, because he said the UFC I was thinking it was someone that was wanting to stick it to the Man or the UFC, I guess that is why you do not jump to conclusions.
He has his points but it is just an opinion and he can have it.
Saying it is irresponsible to watch it because kids might do it is retared because kids could do the same with boxing.
Funny that he said that the contender is more entertaining and the UFC is real in the same paragraph because you could contend that the Contender edits their fights in order for them to be more entertaining. MMA is real, it is not tainted by sleezy promoters and gamblers paying people to take a dive, well I am not sure about Pride, whatever. But that is what boxing is known for.
That is the thing though if you only watched UFC 77 or UFC 72 and were not hooked by the concept or possibilities then it could be contrued as a boring sport. I think this makes the sport even more timeless and REAL, there are so many different factors in a fight that things are not always balls to the wall.
I am so pissed that I spent this long on a post no one is going to read and about a guy that would never even consider liking the UFC because people that drink beer might be associated with him, go back to your over priced condo and drink you over priced wine, not because they are better but because someone told you it was cool, guess who is the loser? Boxing is dead, a bunch of greedy people killed it, MMA is just mopping up. KEEP MMA REAL SPIT ON A YUPPIE, heh heh
He has his points but it is just an opinion and he can have it.
Saying it is irresponsible to watch it because kids might do it is retared because kids could do the same with boxing.
Funny that he said that the contender is more entertaining and the UFC is real in the same paragraph because you could contend that the Contender edits their fights in order for them to be more entertaining. MMA is real, it is not tainted by sleezy promoters and gamblers paying people to take a dive, well I am not sure about Pride, whatever. But that is what boxing is known for.
That is the thing though if you only watched UFC 77 or UFC 72 and were not hooked by the concept or possibilities then it could be contrued as a boring sport. I think this makes the sport even more timeless and REAL, there are so many different factors in a fight that things are not always balls to the wall.
I am so pissed that I spent this long on a post no one is going to read and about a guy that would never even consider liking the UFC because people that drink beer might be associated with him, go back to your over priced condo and drink you over priced wine, not because they are better but because someone told you it was cool, guess who is the loser? Boxing is dead, a bunch of greedy people killed it, MMA is just mopping up. KEEP MMA REAL SPIT ON A YUPPIE, heh heh