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POLL: Bisping vs Leben
Bisping KO 34% (22)
Bisping Sub 2% (1)
Bisping Decision 23% (15)
Leben KO 37% (24)
Leben Sub 2% (1)
Leben Decision 3% (2)
CantAndleDaRiddum
4/22/08 3:34:57PM


mmamania discussed the possible matchup. i'd like to know what yall think about it. me personally?

i love leben's KO power but think bisping pulls out a decision

how bout yall?http://mmamania.com/2008/04/22/ufc-85-michael-bisping-vs-chris-leben/
Aaronno9
4/22/08 3:45:19PM
I guess this will be like a wet dream fight for all the american bisping haters, theres no denying that if sombodys going to knock him out at 185 other than anderson it would be leben or cote. I think mike would be to quick for him though, and would just wear him down with knees from the clinch until chris gases. At that point i think bisping would just play it smart and pick his shots earning himself a UD. Bisping might even take him down, the stand ups pretty close but i definatly think bisping is better on the ground.
Mchubb316
4/22/08 4:38:32PM
Leben looks pretty good as of late. Bisping looked fast in his last fight, and in good shape. This would be a great fight. I am not sure who I would pick at this point.
Twenty20Dollars
4/22/08 5:12:03PM
Leben would win this fight tko. Chris has a strong chin and stronger punch even though they maybe wild they still hurt.

I dont think bisping has as much power in his hands to test lebens chin. I think leben could get a takedown and so could bisping but i see both of them getting right back up.

I'd say middle of the second round leben rock's bisping and finishes with a ground and pound tko.
gsquat
4/22/08 5:57:42PM
Bisping wouldn't allow Leben to win via the way he usualy does. Bisping doesn't get into slug matches (which is what Leben wants). Bisping with put a combo together then back out. And on the ground there is no question Bisping is better. Clear advantage Bisping... UD.
skatenate
4/22/08 7:55:27PM
i like bisping, and he had a great fight and looked good, but leben looks great aswell, would be a top-grade fight, i think bisping would take it out ever so slightly.
SerraLeben
4/22/08 10:49:21PM
I don't think Bisping would make the mistake of trying to stand with Leben. The thing is Leben can still put you down even when he is about to go down himself. Leben is the guy that you just can't count out. I imagine Bisping would take it to the ground and beat Leben that way, just to play it safe.
emfleek
4/22/08 10:53:34PM
As much as it pains me to say it...

Bisping by KO/TKO via GnP.
Kracker_Jap
4/22/08 11:08:52PM
Sorry but you guys are CRAZY

I mean, Leban is a tested fighter and Bisping just learned how look tuff during his entrance...... (just look how cool he looked last PPV)

I'm not saying he can't win but the odds are stacked against him
JBatch
4/23/08 8:31:10AM
My heart says Leben by KO.

My mind says Leben by KO. I think Bisping is one hell of a fighter and looked great moving down to 185 but I believe he will try and stand and trade with Leben and unless you are 6'3 or over Leben will probably put you to sleep.
Aaronno9
4/23/08 9:02:56AM

Posted by JBatch

My heart says Leben by KO.

My mind says Leben by KO. I think Bisping is one hell of a fighter and looked great moving down to 185 but I believe he will try and stand and trade with Leben and unless you are 6'3 or over Leben will probably put you to sleep.




The running man aint over 6'3 and leben couldnt put him to sleep. He hasnt even got that great of a chin.
skinnator
4/23/08 1:54:07PM
Bisping KO is my pick
Rollins
4/23/08 2:41:29PM
I think Leben by KO or three rd pounding un dec, I don't see how Bisping can walk away with a W here.

(close fight and maybe the judges lean toward bisping? otherwise NO)
Hannibal_H
4/23/08 3:38:56PM
I'd fancy Bisping by TKO.

I like them both, but I've loved Bisping since his Cage Rage days.
pv3Hpv3p
4/23/08 4:38:02PM
This is one of those fights were I hope and pray for the rare double KO
bls1919
4/23/08 5:43:35PM
Even though i like Leben and dislike Bisping, i have to go with Bisping on this one. 2nd rnd TKO GnP. He looked great at 185. much faster, and that Thai clinch looked deadly.
mrliquid
4/23/08 6:20:10PM
Leben by KO 3rd round
whardin19
4/23/08 8:01:29PM
Bisping looked crazy good against McCarthy! He looked quicker and much more crisp with his punches. He really impressed me. So I'm thinking he'd be able to take it to Leben, and lets not forget Bisping has a pretty good ground game too, if he's on top. I'd give the fight to Bisping round 2 TKO.
JBatch
4/24/08 8:38:41AM

Posted by Aaronno9


Posted by JBatch

My heart says Leben by KO.

My mind says Leben by KO. I think Bisping is one hell of a fighter and looked great moving down to 185 but I believe he will try and stand and trade with Leben and unless you are 6'3 or over Leben will probably put you to sleep.




The running man aint over 6'3 and leben couldnt put him to sleep. He hasnt even got that great of a chin.



Starnes is 6'3 with a decent reach and MacDonald is 6'3 with a decent reach. Thier frames are what gives Leben problems, with his take some punches to give some punches style. It is hard for him to get inside on those guys, especially since both fought smart got like 2 punch 1 kick combo's off and then got out of Leben's range.
waylon_o
4/24/08 9:30:22AM
Bisping will just outclass him in every part of the fight.
Aaronno9
4/24/08 1:45:44PM

Posted by JBatch


Posted by Aaronno9


Posted by JBatch

My heart says Leben by KO.

My mind says Leben by KO. I think Bisping is one hell of a fighter and looked great moving down to 185 but I believe he will try and stand and trade with Leben and unless you are 6'3 or over Leben will probably put you to sleep.




The running man aint over 6'3 and leben couldnt put him to sleep. He hasnt even got that great of a chin.



Starnes is 6'3 with a decent reach and MacDonald is 6'3 with a decent reach. Thier frames are what gives Leben problems, with his take some punches to give some punches style. It is hard for him to get inside on those guys, especially since both fought smart got like 2 punch 1 kick combo's off and then got out of Leben's range.



Wow, my bad, i always thought kalib was only like 6'0. Mike is 6'2 with a pretty good reach though, and i think itl be more his quickness than his frame which prevent leben getting inside and brawling. Mikes alot quicker than kalib and jason imo.
DevonFoxy
4/24/08 3:56:29PM

Posted by emfleek

As much as it pains me to say it...

Bisping by KO/TKO via GnP.



Agreed but I really don't like either fighter.
hodge
4/24/08 5:40:41PM
Bisping KO rnd 2

Please make this fight at UFC 85 would be a huge boost to the card and UK fans would help fire up Bisping.

Please Please Dana make this happen!
Gladiator
4/24/08 8:52:57PM

Posted by pv3Hpv3p

This is one of those fights were I hope and pray for the rare double KO



That would be awesome!

I think if anyone gets KO'd in this fight, it will be bisping. not really sure why so many people are picking the count by KO, havent seen him KO anyone since ross pointon (who dropped to welterweight and never won in the ufc) and leben is well known for his solid chin. I agree that leben's weakness is the taller and more lengthy-limbed guys, but i would also like to add that good technical striking has given him trouble in a few of his fights. he is a brawler afterall. I say that if matt hamil can outstrike bisping then leben should have no problem drawing him into a brawling match. Bisping isnt all that accurate and i thnk dfensively his striking is lacking and he rarely covers up. should be a sure KO for leben IMO.

-on a side note- the trash talk leading up to this fight will be intense
moob
4/27/08 6:03:56AM
As long as Bisping plays this one smart and moves quick in and out - I see him beating Leben in the later stages as Chris has a tendency to gas. If Leben catches Mike - it could be all over quickly however.
masodd
4/27/08 2:09:42PM
Very close fight imo but i think leben will edge out bisping in a decision unless they decide to screw over leben just like they did hamill in the UK
Hurricane_Brad
4/28/08 10:31:22AM
I'm thinking Leben will catch Bisping at some point in the fight if he tries to stand with him and get the TKO.
JBatch
4/28/08 12:54:30PM

Posted by Aaronno9


Posted by JBatch


Posted by Aaronno9


Posted by JBatch

My heart says Leben by KO.




Wow, my bad, i always thought kalib was only like 6'0. Mike is 6'2 with a pretty good reach though, and i think itl be more his quickness than his frame which prevent leben getting inside and brawling. Mikes alot quicker than kalib and jason imo.



No problem. After watching Bispings last fight I am way more worrid thanI would have been if he hadn't just decimated someone at 185. That being said Alessio Sakara is a much better striker than Mike Bisping and Leben put him to sleep so I see it happening again.

I think they are just goign to make this an all out brawl. Bisping has to be very worried IMO. Bisping is quick but not as powerful as he needs to be to beat Leben.
mrkennedy
4/28/08 2:30:08PM
bisping have more talent and goane a win by ko of the 2nd round
jasonrossier
4/30/08 10:25:17PM
leben 2nd round ko
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