What the UFC lacks

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PaleHorse
10/18/07 4:45:27PM
I thought that a thread should be made on things that people belive that the UFC should add, whether its rules, fighters, etc.

1.) In the judging system, I believe that each aspect of winning decision, ex, takedowns, cage control, grappling, and striking are each rated 10 points, each of those points are added up to make an accumulated score for a fighter to win a round.
2.) I believe that a featherweight and super-heavyweight class should be added to the UFC for the fighters who are heavyweight and cannot make it under 265 pounds, and to open up more options to the great fighters at 145 pounds like Urijah Faber and Jens Pulver to still be apart of a UFC event rather than broadcasted on the WEC.
3.) I believe that early stoppages should have the capability of being overturned by the judges.
4.) I believe that drug testing should only test for performance enhancing drugss, not things like cannabis.
5.) I believe that the UFC needs a actual Hall of Fame for people to be able to visit and enjoy, like in Cooperstown for baseball.
6.) I believe that the UFC should hold more tournaments like they did in the beginning and like PRIDE did with openweight, and less known fighters, giving them the chance of earning a title shot. For example, very few heavyweight fighters have stood out to be much more dominant than the rest, I therefore believe that in Randy Couture's retirement that a tournament should be held for an interim heavyweight championship, as well as openweight tournaments should be held.
Rush
10/18/07 4:53:45PM
I like your ideas except for 4 and 5


I think it's too early for 5 and as for 4, all fighters need to be clean. Added to which, some drugs may not be performance enhancing, but can mask positive tests for bona fide performance enhancers.
tuvok500
10/18/07 5:11:35PM

Posted by PaleHorse

I thought that a thread should be made on things that people belive that the UFC should add, whether its rules, fighters, etc.

1.) In the judging system, I believe that each aspect of winning decision, ex, takedowns, cage control, grappling, and striking are each rated 10 points, each of those points are added up to make an accumulated score for a fighter to win a round.
2.) I believe that a featherweight and super-heavyweight class should be added to the UFC for the fighters who are heavyweight and cannot make it under 265 pounds, and to open up more options to the great fighters at 145 pounds like Urijah Faber and Jens Pulver to still be apart of a UFC event rather than broadcasted on the WEC.
3.) I believe that early stoppages should have the capability of being overturned by the judges.
4.) I believe that drug testing should only test for performance enhancing drugss, not things like cannabis.
5.) I believe that the UFC needs a actual Hall of Fame for people to be able to visit and enjoy, like in Cooperstown for baseball.
6.) I believe that the UFC should hold more tournaments like they did in the beginning and like PRIDE did with openweight, and less known fighters, giving them the chance of earning a title shot. For example, very few heavyweight fighters have stood out to be much more dominant than the rest, I therefore believe that in Randy Couture's retirement that a tournament should be held for an interim heavyweight championship, as well as openweight tournaments should be held.



the problem with your idea is, that the ufc has accepted to follow the rules that they have now to be able to be sanctionned and to have the right to put there event in many state and country who are accepting these regulation.

but i like your idea about the 10 pts for each categorys and to score the fight base on it !!

loonytnt
10/18/07 5:20:28PM
if i had to add 2 that the UFC lacks i put


1. fedor
2.randy
Chudly
10/18/07 6:03:35PM
I dont know , I would just like to see less of Dana White on the TV thats all...
mkiv9secsupra
10/18/07 7:49:31PM
Joe Silva retired....Someone who knows how to make fights that fans want to see should be put in charge.
faille
10/19/07 1:11:30PM

Posted by Chudly

I dont know , I would just like to see less of Dana White on the TV thats all...



It should be that way, but he seems to rather enjoy plastering his face everyehere.
DCRage
10/19/07 1:36:09PM
My thoughts...
1. Not really too big on this one. I think the judges should be inclined to give the round loser fewer than 9 points for truly lackluster efforts. That rarely happens.
2. Featherweight won't happen, Dana's said so himself. At least not in UFC, it'll stay in WEC and that's probably a good thing as having it in UFC would take too much away from it. The only UFC guy now that might benefit from Super HW is Tim Sylvia.
3. Not really sure about this one, but leaning no.
4. No. Some of the other drugs can still have various effects on fighters and send the wrong messages.
5. Great idea, just not the right time. And I think that, much like wrestling, MMA will be too volatile a sport to allow for such an establishment. Remember that the first time someone gets killed in a fight (even Dana says it's inevitable but I, like probably everyone else, hope that never happens) it's going to be like a 40-ton hammer coming down on everything.
6. If done properly, yes. Although the one night things like in the early UFC days likely won't happen again (Athletic Commissions won't allow it), I could see them being spread out over maybe 2-3 events with 4 or 8 fighters.
pv3Hpv3p
10/19/07 1:46:45PM
For me...

-Matchmaking is somewhat questionable at times, but no ones perfect

-I agree, I would like to see less of Dana White... Can't think of another company that puts their president out like the UFC does

-I miss Pride's production... I liked the parade of fighters in the beginning, I liked the pyrotechnics and the over the top entrances... I'm sick of the same old UFC production
PaleHorse
10/19/07 6:27:06PM
I'm not quite sure why they're so reluctant to have a featherweight division, I don't think people like Urijah Faber should have to fight up to earn the credit that they deserve or make money like other fighters do.
NatedawgThaM
10/19/07 6:27:41PM
- A MW division...

- Give there deserving people that keep winning like Karo and have been there forever there deserved title shots..

-Pay better. How does Jardine only get a few thousand for beating Chucks behind?

- Respect fro there old verterans. Sign mark Coleman and Josh Barnett people who helped set the foundation and give them second chances. Coleman should have stayed longer because theres no way he loss to freakin Pedro Rizzo. Oh yeah that guys been good sign Rizzo too.

- Quit making just ONE or TWO poster boys for each division. Its backfiring like a mothasucka...QUIT GIVING THEM SPLIT DECISIONS THEY DO NOT DESERVE!!!!

examples...

Tito- I thought he lost both SD's to Vitor & Forrest...
Tyson Griffin- IMO he lost both to Thiago Taveres and Clay Guida...
Michael Bispin- Lost to Matt Hamil...




jiujitsufreak74
10/19/07 6:36:43PM
^ there is no way tyson griffin lost to thiago. tyson dominated that whole fight and controlled tavarez the entire match. i had thiago winning, so i was rooting for him, but i knew that he had lost the decision once it went the distance. thiago lost on the feet and on the ground, he didn't do much of anything to tyson save a couple of failed submission attempts, and griffin just out worked him. now, i 100% agree that guida won that fight against griffin, and i am personally not a fan of tyson, but i still have to admit that IMO, tyson won that fight convincingly against thiago. guida, however, is a different story.
NatedawgThaM
10/19/07 6:56:20PM

Posted by jiujitsufreak74

^ there is no way tyson griffin lost to thiago. tyson dominated that whole fight and controlled tavarez the entire match. i had thiago winning, so i was rooting for him, but i knew that he had lost the decision once it went the distance. thiago lost on the feet and on the ground, he didn't do much of anything to tyson save a couple of failed submission attempts, and griffin just out worked him. now, i 100% agree that guida won that fight against griffin, and i am personally not a fan of tyson, but i still have to admit that IMO, tyson won that fight convincingly against thiago. guida, however, is a different story.



But dude, Thiago had several submission attempts and it looked like Griffin was just fighting submission the whole fight. Stand up was pretty close but I did have Tyson by UD and got 11 points but I still thought that was at least split. I honestly believe they only gave him that one round because he spiked Thiago on his head..
DJDark41
10/19/07 9:43:33PM

Posted by PaleHorse
1.) In the judging system, I believe that each aspect of winning decision, ex, takedowns, cage control, grappling, and striking are each rated 10 points, each of those points are added up to make an accumulated score for a fighter to win a round.
2.) I believe that a featherweight and super-heavyweight class should be added to the UFC for the fighters who are heavyweight and cannot make it under 265 pounds, and to open up more options to the great fighters at 145 pounds like Urijah Faber and Jens Pulver to still be apart of a UFC event rather than broadcasted on the WEC.
3.) I believe that early stoppages should have the capability of being overturned by the judges.
4.) I believe that drug testing should only test for performance enhancing drugss, not things like cannabis.
5.) I believe that the UFC needs a actual Hall of Fame for people to be able to visit and enjoy, like in Cooperstown for baseball.
6.) I believe that the UFC should hold more tournaments like they did in the beginning and like PRIDE did with openweight, and less known fighters, giving them the chance of earning a title shot. For example, very few heavyweight fighters have stood out to be much more dominant than the rest, I therefore believe that in Randy Couture's retirement that a tournament should be held for an interim heavyweight championship, as well as openweight tournaments should be held.






1. Maybe. I've seen lots of arguments about judging, but I have a solution for all the fighters who hate it. FINISH YOUR FIGHTS!

2. Featherweight, maybe. No to super-heavyweight completely, it would just be a circus show and I'd personally rather see two skilled fighters duke it out then two elephants in shorts falling all over each other. They struggled to bring back the lightweight, so I don't see any new weight classes for a LONG time.

3. No. HELL NO. AND HELL NO AGAIN! So you get your ass kicked, and one of the fighters makes a deal with the judges that if he gets beat down they call it an early stoppage and he gets a do-over? Maybe if they get tapped out, they should have the option of a do-over and get to start standing up again and ignore the submission. Once again, a simple solution. Don't get caught in a position that would allow for a stoppage, period.

4. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. Do you get the point yet? Good.

5. Would be cool, I'd definitly like to visit it if they made one. It would be pretty small...maybe get some cool things like the gloves Randy Couture used in his comeback fight against Tim Sylvia or something like that.

6. Won't happen. ever. Athletic Commissions won't allow it, so no way it would ever happen.
hippysmacker
10/20/07 7:43:04AM

Posted by loonytnt

if i had to add 2 that the UFC lacks i put


1. fedor
2.randy



I'll second that. ALso, I would like for Non-title fightd to be able to be scheduled for 5 rounds in special cases, and a sudden victory round if the judges deem it ti close at the end of 3 rounds. Thats probably the best thing I like about the currrent TUF rules.
NatedawgThaM
10/20/07 8:40:05AM

What does the UFC lack?


Fedor...
mrsmiley
10/20/07 9:31:23AM
Rickson
Ultimate_fighter
10/20/07 1:18:26PM
i agree with everything that u said... especially the hall of fame...
Ultimate_fighter
10/20/07 1:20:20PM

Posted by NatedawgThaM


What does the UFC lack?


Fedor...



especially fedor..... RANDY COME BACK!!!
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