Junior Dos Santos Versus Gabriel Gonzaga

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long-john
10/11/09 11:50:25AM
http://www.fighters.com/10/11/exclusive-rodrigo-nogueira-v-gabriel-gonzaga-in-ufc

I hope this is true because it means that Nog's next match is Lesnar/Carwin winner!
spikerman19
10/11/09 12:37:33PM
This is a good test for Dos Santos and a step in the right the direction.
State_Champ
10/11/09 1:25:02PM
If GG fights Dos Santos I think Dos Santos will win.
GG needs some kind of an edge, IMO he just seems to have fallen a little short of his potential. (Maybe he needs to switch camps?)

I think Dos Santos wins this fight because of his stand up
Jackelope
10/11/09 1:50:09PM

Posted by State_Champ

If GG fights Dos Santos I think Dos Santos will win.
GG needs some kind of an edge, IMO he just seems to have fallen a little short of his potential. (Maybe he needs to switch camps?)

I think Dos Santos wins this fight because of his stand up



Sadly, I agree with this.

Gabe's a beast no doubt, but I could see JDS taking him out 1st round KO
IriShame
10/11/09 2:15:31PM
After Junior KO's Gonzaga it's going to be hard to deny him a title shot. Carwin got one for the same thing and he didn't have names like Werdum and Cro Cop already on his resume. Go Junior!
State_Champ
10/11/09 2:48:05PM

Posted by IriShame

After Junior KO's Gonzaga it's going to be hard to deny him a title shot. Carwin got one for the same thing and he didn't have names like Werdum and Cro Cop already on his resume. Go Junior!




And I'm not sure at all how he would fare against Lesnar (or Carwin or even Nog possibly).....I think he would lose to Lesnar
IriShame
10/11/09 3:29:30PM

Posted by State_Champ


Posted by IriShame

After Junior KO's Gonzaga it's going to be hard to deny him a title shot. Carwin got one for the same thing and he didn't have names like Werdum and Cro Cop already on his resume. Go Junior!




And I'm not sure at all how he would fare against Lesnar (or Carwin or even Nog possibly).....I think he would lose to Lesnar



I'm not sure either based on the fact that we've never seen Dos Santos vs. a talented wrestler. I've heard he has a sick ground game but his takedown defense is what needs to be tested.

I don't believe he would fight Nog though seeing as they train together.
chickmagnet
10/11/09 3:38:00PM
This would be an interesting fight, but I definitely see JDS winning. He showed how great he really is against Cro Cop. He would overwhelm Gonazga with strikes late in the fight and get the tko.
Aaronno9
10/11/09 4:21:00PM
I see JDS finishing Gabe in the first if this fight happens. Im still not totally sold on him, but he impresses me more and more everytime I see him. Gabe ought to think about trying to get this fight to the mat asap, I hear JDS has a good ground game but I dont think many HWs would beable to shift Gabe when he gets on top of them.
Sinister
10/11/09 4:52:49PM
Dos Santos by KO.
I think Gonzaga has some hardcore fans so he is overrated at times. His biggest win will always be that head kick.
Sinister
10/11/09 4:54:52PM

Posted by IriShame


Posted by State_Champ


Posted by IriShame

After Junior KO's Gonzaga it's going to be hard to deny him a title shot. Carwin got one for the same thing and he didn't have names like Werdum and Cro Cop already on his resume. Go Junior!




And I'm not sure at all how he would fare against Lesnar (or Carwin or even Nog possibly).....I think he would lose to Lesnar



I'm not sure either based on the fact that we've never seen Dos Santos vs. a talented wrestler. I've heard he has a sick ground game but his takedown defense is what needs to be tested.

I don't believe he would fight Nog though seeing as they train together.



He wouldnt fight Nog. I think if Nog wins the title, that gives Cain the shot if he wins his next fight or possibly Mir.
higdon10
10/11/09 5:23:21PM
Poor Gabe Gonzaga is in for another beating.
Nightmare27
10/11/09 5:31:44PM
I might be the only one who thinks this but I have Gonzaga taking this fight. Like others have said Im not sold on JDS either. Not to mention Gonzaga is a beast and has the ability to end a fight anywhere. Should be an interesting fight if it happens.
scobac
10/11/09 5:46:44PM

Posted by Nightmare27

I might be the only one who thinks this but I have Gonzaga taking this fight. Like others have said Im not sold on JDS either. Not to mention Gonzaga is a beast and has the ability to end a fight anywhere. Should be an interesting fight if it happens.



I have to agree here, Junior is a good fighter but I dont think the crocop fight is enough to sell me on him beating a hungry gabe gonzaga (no offense to Mirko but ive seen heavy bags in the gym put up more of fight).

If Gonzaga comes in focused and hungry I think he will pound him out on the ground or submit him. On the other hand maybe im just being hopeful that Gonzaga lives up to all of his potential and goes on a big run, he has the physical tools to do it just a little skeptical on the mental game.
Sinister
10/11/09 7:10:21PM

Posted by scobac


Posted by Nightmare27

I might be the only one who thinks this but I have Gonzaga taking this fight. Like others have said Im not sold on JDS either. Not to mention Gonzaga is a beast and has the ability to end a fight anywhere. Should be an interesting fight if it happens.



I have to agree here, Junior is a good fighter but I dont think the crocop fight is enough to sell me on him beating a hungry gabe gonzaga (no offense to Mirko but ive seen heavy bags in the gym put up more of fight).

If Gonzaga comes in focused and hungry I think he will pound him out on the ground or submit him. On the other hand maybe im just being hopeful that Gonzaga lives up to all of his potential and goes on a big run, he has the physical tools to do it just a little skeptical on the mental game.



Your skeptical of Dos Santos cause of his Cro Cop fight yet that is the only Top 10 HW Gonzaga has every beaten. Also, Gonzaga has lost to Werdum and Santos KO'd Werdum.

Look at Gonzaga's fight in the UFC and tell me one contender or legit HW he has beaten. His career outside of the UFC doesn't show any either. He is a gatekeeper at best in the HW division.

Edit- I forgot to mention Gonzaga lost tiwce to Werdum by TKO.
BustedKnuckle
10/11/09 7:41:20PM

Posted by higdon10

Poor Gabe Gonzaga is in for another beating.



Amen to that brother JDS is going to plant GG on is ass hard!
nickcuc547
10/11/09 7:47:33PM
I love gabe but dos santos will probably take this, gonzaga's more talented but his cardio won't be enough and he will be overmatched in the striking department. here's hoping gonzaga utilizes his great jiu jitsu game, that's his ticket to a win.
scobac
10/11/09 7:48:00PM

Posted by Sinister

Your skeptical of Dos Santos cause of his Cro Cop fight yet that is the only Top 10 HW Gonzaga has every beaten. Also, Gonzaga has lost to Werdum and Santos KO'd Werdum.

Look at Gonzaga's fight in the UFC and tell me one contender or legit HW he has beaten. His career outside of the UFC doesn't show any either. He is a gatekeeper at best in the HW division.

Edit- I forgot to mention Gonzaga lost tiwce to Werdum by TKO.



I dont by into the whole "he beat him and he lost to him so he would beat him" talk, It's all about the style matchups for me.

First off I think Junior is a good fighter and im not taking anything away from him.

Gonzaga has been hot and cold when it comes to the "big" fights but he is 7-3 in the ufc and when he does win he finishes his fights.

Either guy can take this fight, but IMO and probably alot of peoples Gonzaga has more ways to win this and is arguably the most "well rounded" HW in the UFC, the question is his mental game when it comes to the bigger fights. Im picking him to win this fight because I think after the loss to Carwin and the rencent KO of Chris Tuchscherer he is going to come in hungy and focused and that is bad news for any HW in any organization.

Agree or disagree when Gonzaga has his head on straight he is a beast.

WAR NAPAO!!
IriShame
10/11/09 8:38:13PM

Posted by scobac


Posted by Sinister

Your skeptical of Dos Santos cause of his Cro Cop fight yet that is the only Top 10 HW Gonzaga has every beaten. Also, Gonzaga has lost to Werdum and Santos KO'd Werdum.

Look at Gonzaga's fight in the UFC and tell me one contender or legit HW he has beaten. His career outside of the UFC doesn't show any either. He is a gatekeeper at best in the HW division.

Edit- I forgot to mention Gonzaga lost tiwce to Werdum by TKO.



I dont by into the whole "he beat him and he lost to him so he would beat him" talk, It's all about the style matchups for me.

First off I think Junior is a good fighter and im not taking anything away from him.

Gonzaga has been hot and cold when it comes to the "big" fights but he is 7-3 in the ufc and when he does win he finishes his fights.

Either guy can take this fight, but IMO and probably alot of peoples Gonzaga has more ways to win this and is arguably the most "well rounded" HW in the UFC, the question is his mental game when it comes to the bigger fights. Im picking him to win this fight because I think after the loss to Carwin and the rencent KO of Chris Tuchscherer he is going to come in hungy and focused and that is bad news for any HW in any organization.

Agree or disagree when Gonzaga has his head on straight he is a beast.

WAR NAPAO!!



I agree, a focused Gonzaga is scary but I think his past fights have nothing to do with his focus coming in to this fight. Gabe always looks focused coming in, it's when he gets bullied in the cage that he loses it. Dos Santos is a bully. Look for him to break Gonzaga's will about 3 minutes in to the first round. A TKO will surely follow.
mshalosky
10/11/09 9:18:46PM
I think Gonzaga will probably take this. He has about 20-30 lbs weight advantage. Plus he has pretty good takedowns and a great top game. I expect Gonzaga to take him down and use elbows from top. He will controll him and probably grind out a decision. JDS is the a great matchup for Gonzaga
deezyo
10/11/09 11:41:23PM
nice matchup, ive gonzaga the edge
prozacnation1978
10/11/09 11:49:03PM
3 things

first if this fight happens big nog will face winner of lesnar/carwin
how quick will they fight i say by march it will happen

2nd
what the hell happens to cain if he wins and beats ben
will he get the back burner

3rd

say santos does beat gonzaga
no bout he would leap over cain and get a title shot but how long would he wait if big nog gets it first and...

say big nog does win and is champ
no way these two fight junior and big nog
then what

think about it
Sinister
10/12/09 2:10:34AM

Posted by scobac


Posted by Sinister

Your skeptical of Dos Santos cause of his Cro Cop fight yet that is the only Top 10 HW Gonzaga has every beaten. Also, Gonzaga has lost to Werdum and Santos KO'd Werdum.

Look at Gonzaga's fight in the UFC and tell me one contender or legit HW he has beaten. His career outside of the UFC doesn't show any either. He is a gatekeeper at best in the HW division.

Edit- I forgot to mention Gonzaga lost tiwce to Werdum by TKO.



I dont by into the whole "he beat him and he lost to him so he would beat him" talk, It's all about the style matchups for me.

First off I think Junior is a good fighter and im not taking anything away from him.

Gonzaga has been hot and cold when it comes to the "big" fights but he is 7-3 in the ufc and when he does win he finishes his fights.

Either guy can take this fight, but IMO and probably alot of peoples Gonzaga has more ways to win this and is arguably the most "well rounded" HW in the UFC, the question is his mental game when it comes to the bigger fights. Im picking him to win this fight because I think after the loss to Carwin and the rencent KO of Chris Tuchscherer he is going to come in hungy and focused and that is bad news for any HW in any organization.

Agree or disagree when Gonzaga has his head on straight he is a beast.

WAR NAPAO!!



I am not using MMA math to make my point. Im saying Gonzaga has lost every big fight he has been in except CC. 7-3 means nothing when you look at the names compared to Dos Santos'.

I think the fight is going to look a lot like Werdum-Gonzaga. TKO with Santos landing punches to Gonzaga against the cage.

What makes his style a good matchup for Santos also? All of Gonzaga's loses are by TKO? That is Santos' game and actually makes this a perfect matchup for him rather than GG.
nickcuc547
10/12/09 12:31:25PM

Posted by Sinister


Posted by scobac


Posted by Sinister

Your skeptical of Dos Santos cause of his Cro Cop fight yet that is the only Top 10 HW Gonzaga has every beaten. Also, Gonzaga has lost to Werdum and Santos KO'd Werdum.

Look at Gonzaga's fight in the UFC and tell me one contender or legit HW he has beaten. His career outside of the UFC doesn't show any either. He is a gatekeeper at best in the HW division.

Edit- I forgot to mention Gonzaga lost tiwce to Werdum by TKO.



I dont by into the whole "he beat him and he lost to him so he would beat him" talk, It's all about the style matchups for me.

First off I think Junior is a good fighter and im not taking anything away from him.

Gonzaga has been hot and cold when it comes to the "big" fights but he is 7-3 in the ufc and when he does win he finishes his fights.

Either guy can take this fight, but IMO and probably alot of peoples Gonzaga has more ways to win this and is arguably the most "well rounded" HW in the UFC, the question is his mental game when it comes to the bigger fights. Im picking him to win this fight because I think after the loss to Carwin and the rencent KO of Chris Tuchscherer he is going to come in hungy and focused and that is bad news for any HW in any organization.

Agree or disagree when Gonzaga has his head on straight he is a beast.

WAR NAPAO!!



I am not using MMA math to make my point. Im saying Gonzaga has lost every big fight he has been in except CC. 7-3 means nothing when you look at the names compared to Dos Santos'.

I think the fight is going to look a lot like Werdum-Gonzaga. TKO with Santos landing punches to Gonzaga against the cage.

What makes his style a good matchup for Santos also? All of Gonzaga's loses are by TKO? That is Santos' game and actually makes this a perfect matchup for him rather than GG.



agree it will look a lot like the werdum fight, gonzaga can win but if he doesn't win in the first round his suspect gas tank will come in to play, besides the couture fight gonzaga has had chances to win and dominated the other two fights he lost at a point in the fight, but his gas tank has proven time and again to let him down in big fights, can't say that it will be different until i see him do it.
Sinister
10/12/09 1:36:48PM
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Sinister
10/13/09 12:31:04AM

Posted by Scobac


Posted by Sinister

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Is that a maybe?
DJSyko
10/14/09 12:55:08PM
Gabe looks awesome against mid level guys but soon as he fights a top level guy he crumbles (with the exception of Cro-Cop Maybe).

JDS will KO him imo, but will be a awesome fight.
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