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lohmann
8/18/12 1:36:51AM
UFC light heavyweight champion Jon Jones told ESPN.com on Friday that he does not want to have a rematch with Lyoto Machida.

"I don't want to fight Lyoto Machida," Jones said. "He was my lowest pay-per-view draw of last year.

"No one wants to see me fight Lyoto Machida. I don't want to fight Lyoto again. Lyoto is high risk and low reward.

"He's a tough fighter, but no one wants to buy that fight.

"Between (Mauricio) Shogun (Rua), (Quinton) Rampage (Jackson) and Rashad (Evans), Lyoto was my lowest draw. Why would I want to fight someone where it's a lose-lose situation? "I won't make money on it. And he's a tricky fighter."

When asked if he will agree to fight Machida again if asked by UFC officials to do so, Jones was noncommittal.

"I don't even know," Jones said. "I don't know how to answer that right now."

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prophecy033
8/18/12 1:43:19AM
Hey Jones, if they say you're fighting Machida, guess what, you're gonna fight Machida. Enough of this "he's my lowest ppv blah blah blah" Look, it doesn't matter. You're the Champ and Champions fight the #1 contenders. And on top of that, you just got busted for DUI so i'd play the game Zuffa wants you to play until that smoke has cleared

END RANT!!!!
Twenty20Dollars
8/18/12 1:43:22AM
You answered that very poorly, Jones. Making it seem like you only care about money.

I don't want to see those two fight because they just fought. Machida just fought Jones before Bader and before that only had a win over Couture to get the title shot.

But, for the love of god, let Hendo beat Jones.
MMAcca
8/18/12 1:47:17AM
Jon Jones needs to learn to not open his mouth without his manager present. Ever.

For the good of the LHW division, i hope Hendo win September 1st.
lohmann
8/18/12 1:55:32AM

Posted by MMAcca

Jon Jones needs to learn to not open his mouth without his manager present. Ever.



Malki Kawa is not the greatest manager when it comes to the PR side. He is the same person that mishandled the DUI incident, called Chael Sonnen an idiot, called Ariel Helwani a dick head via Twitter, etc.

Jones should have answered the question with more sophistication. He is concerned about the rematch as a lose-lose with good reason; he probably has the same sort of deal Anderson Silva has, raking in percentages. "The fans will be turned off by the rematch; the pay-per-view numbers will reflect that" would be a better way to at least thinly hide your motives.

And then afterwards he should have offered the answer to a pay-per-view flatline:



aussiemma
8/18/12 2:02:00AM
im sure whoever the ufc puts infront of him he will fight.
The guy gets scrutinised for everything he says, what he says may come off as cocky or whatever but he's saying the truth.
BelXavier420
8/18/12 2:14:46AM

Posted by lohmann

UFC light heavyweight champion Jon Jones told ESPN.com on Friday that he does not want to have a rematch with Lyoto Machida.

"I don't want to fight Lyoto Machida," Jones said. "He was my lowest pay-per-view draw of last year.

"No one wants to see me fight Lyoto Machida. I don't want to fight Lyoto again. Lyoto is high risk and low reward.

"He's a tough fighter, but no one wants to buy that fight.

"Between (Mauricio) Shogun (Rua), (Quinton) Rampage (Jackson) and Rashad (Evans), Lyoto was my lowest draw. Why would I want to fight someone where it's a lose-lose situation? "I won't make money on it. And he's a tricky fighter."

When asked if he will agree to fight Machida again if asked by UFC officials to do so, Jones was noncommittal.

"I don't even know," Jones said. "I don't know how to answer that right now."

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Do what? I know you are good Jones but you are not fighting Machida, you are fighting Dan f'ing Henderson. One of the greatest fighters of all time. Absolutely not a man to look past. His statement leads me to believe he has lost focus, if that is true he might as well hand that belt over.

War Hendo!!! I've been rooting for that guy since I got into MMA why change now?
infestructure
8/18/12 2:22:52AM

Posted by lohmann

UFC light heavyweight champion Jon Jones told ESPN.com on Friday that he does not want to have a rematch with Lyoto Machida.

"I don't want to fight Lyoto Machida"

"No one wants to see me fight Lyoto Machida."
"I don't want to fight Lyoto again".
"Lyoto is high risk and low reward."
"He's a tough fighter"

When asked if he will agree to fight Machida again if asked by UFC officials to do so, Jones was noncommittal.

"I don't even know," Jones said. "I don't know how to answer that right now."

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Things change Johnny Bones. People saw how close Machida was to beating you, you saw it too, and now you are scared it's his turn again - and you act like PPV has anything to do with your decision? Since when have you been so devoted to being a PPV draw? Stick to fighting. It's not your call anyway. This reeks of cowardice.

I just hope we get to see Jones/Machida II regardless of the outcome of the Hendo fight (please H-Bomb; land!)
FlashyG
8/18/12 2:24:46AM
Just because the first fight didn't sell well doesn't mean the second wont.

There is more to a card than the main event. The co-main event the first time around was Tito vs Little Nog, and the rest of the card was stacked with Canadians because for some reason the UFC feels every card outside the UFC needs homegrown fighters to promote. With a higher quality undercard and co-main event combined with the fact that Lyoto was the only person to make Jones look human so far, I think that rematch has potential to be a huge draw.

Besides as a Champion you shouldn't be able to decline fights, you fight whoever the UFC deems the #1 contender.
prophecy033
8/18/12 2:41:42AM

Posted by aussiemma

im sure whoever the ufc puts infront of him he will fight.
The guy gets scrutinised for everything he says, what he says may come off as cocky or whatever but he's saying the truth.

He would have come off FAR better had he said "Machida was my worst ppv Draw BUT Damn right ill fight him and ill beat him again".
TerrorofsesameST
8/18/12 2:47:35AM
Who else is in line for a title shot besides Lyoto? Shogun..well some of us can make that argument but Shogun is 2-1 since (2 wins -washed up Forrest and a 205'er who isn't even in top 10 lhw rankings) losing title and that 1 loss being an epic battle with Hendo. The young guys like Gustsaffson/Davis have some ways to go before stepping in cage w/ Jones for a shot at the title. Rashad needs to come back with a convincing win if he wants another crack at his old friend. I'd love to finally see Shogun vs Rashad!! Back to the Dragon, Machida's win over Bader was really convincing that he wants another shot at that title. And lets not forget Machida gave Bones a good fight, KO'd Couture, got robbed in Rampage fight..Idk I maybe a bit biased because I am a fan of Machida and Jones I just want to see a good title fight and to see more challenges thrown at Jon Jones because the man is that good. But like Jones said..Hendo comes first.
DrivenDavies15
8/18/12 3:42:28AM
Hey man no one really wants to see you fight Machida again either but with some luck we'll be seeing Hendo/Lyoto in the near future

But if you want PPV buys why don't you fight Andy?

I say let Jones get some time off and fight the Shogun/Gustaffsson winner but unfortunately i'm not Joe Silva


hotrodttt
8/18/12 4:06:32AM
Nobody brings anything new to the table for Jones, maybe with a couple of victories over top competition then Texiera can challenge, but I just don't see it.
aussiemma
8/18/12 4:19:40AM

Posted by prophecy033


Posted by aussiemma

im sure whoever the ufc puts infront of him he will fight.
The guy gets scrutinised for everything he says, what he says may come off as cocky or whatever but he's saying the truth.

He would have come off FAR better had he said "Machida was my worst ppv Draw BUT Damn right ill fight him and ill beat him again".



everything he says just gets broken down and analysed..all im sayin is give the dude a break.
frizzzlecake
8/18/12 4:45:16AM
Idk why UFC 140 was lowest purchased Pay-Per-View that card was stacked.

And this all sounds so familiar, Bones is following Anderson's footsteps. But the thing is the UFC is the matchmaker and they'll make the fight happen, so who cares if Bones doesn't want it. It's not up to him to make the call, it's up to the UFC.

What's Bones going to? Call up Donald Trump to restart Affliction?
KungFuMaster
8/18/12 5:08:30AM
I'm with the consensus. If I start saying more, I'll likely "fighter bash."
jlock003
8/18/12 6:53:34AM
Ok not trying to pick a fight here at all, but for those of you who didn't get a chance to read the last quote provided for Jones in this piece it was "I don't think it's appropriate to be talking about fighting anybody but Dan Henderson," Jones said. "I'm clearly focused on Dan Henderson. I'm not overlooking Dan." He clearly isn't overlooking Henderson. In reality he has a reporter with a microphone shoved in his face asking him a bunch of questions and taking them out of context to compile what is at best a mediocre representation of what the guy says. I'm the first one to point out Jones is one of the more arrogant fighters out there, but it does seem he is getting way more heat than a lot of guys. Hell some people defended Shogun when he took the Vera fight "Oh it's a lose lose for Shogun to fight Tex." Well if that logic is still remotely sound then Jon has a point. Lastly, fighters do have input as to who they will fight. Nobody is forced to fight anybody else. These guys get signed to a specific number of fights, a specific salary, a specific % of ppv buys, but they don't get signed to a specific number of mandated fights against specific opponents. They get to make the choice as to who they will or won't fight. I'm not a big fan of fighters "ducking" other fighters or just deciding it's a boring fight, but they have that right. It just strikes me as odd that a guy who is about to face his 5th former champ in a row is being criticized for trying to "pick his fights." He's trying to maintain his relevance and as best as I can tell from this piece milled article he's also trying to focus on his immediate task at hand and isn't even thinking about what comes after Henderson.
meier
8/18/12 8:15:15AM
Basically if hendo doesnt knock him out or machida doesnt win against him then he needs to move up in weight class.
warglory
8/18/12 9:40:06AM

Posted by TerrorofsesameST

Who else is in line for a title shot besides Lyoto? Shogun..well some of us can make that argument but Shogun is 2-1 since (2 wins -washed up Forrest and a 205'er who isn't even in top 10 lhw rankings) losing title and that 1 loss being an epic battle with Hendo. The young guys like Gustsaffson/Davis have some ways to go before stepping in cage w/ Jones for a shot at the title. Rashad needs to come back with a convincing win if he wants another crack at his old friend. I'd love to finally see Shogun vs Rashad!! Back to the Dragon, Machida's win over Bader was really convincing that he wants another shot at that title. And lets not forget Machida gave Bones a good fight, KO'd Couture, got robbed in Rampage fight..Idk I maybe a bit biased because I am a fan of Machida and Jones I just want to see a good title fight and to see more challenges thrown at Jon Jones because the man is that good. But like Jones said..Hendo comes first.



This all day. Props to you!
george112
8/18/12 9:46:41AM
Like prophecy said if the UFC says your fighting lyoto your fighting him. Your the champ act and fight like it.
warglory
8/18/12 9:47:52AM

Posted by jlock003

Ok not trying to pick a fight here at all, but for those of you who didn't get a chance to read the last quote provided for Jones in this piece it was "I don't think it's appropriate to be talking about fighting anybody but Dan Henderson," Jones said. "I'm clearly focused on Dan Henderson. I'm not overlooking Dan." He clearly isn't overlooking Henderson. In reality he has a reporter with a microphone shoved in his face asking him a bunch of questions and taking them out of context to compile what is at best a mediocre representation of what the guy says. I'm the first one to point out Jones is one of the more arrogant fighters out there, but it does seem he is getting way more heat than a lot of guys. Hell some people defended Shogun when he took the Vera fight "Oh it's a lose lose for Shogun to fight Tex." Well if that logic is still remotely sound then Jon has a point. Lastly, fighters do have input as to who they will fight. Nobody is forced to fight anybody else. These guys get signed to a specific number of fights, a specific salary, a specific % of ppv buys, but they don't get signed to a specific number of mandated fights against specific opponents. They get to make the choice as to who they will or won't fight. I'm not a big fan of fighters "ducking" other fighters or just deciding it's a boring fight, but they have that right. It just strikes me as odd that a guy who is about to face his 5th former champ in a row is being criticized for trying to "pick his fights." He's trying to maintain his relevance and as best as I can tell from this piece milled article he's also trying to focus on his immediate task at hand and isn't even thinking about what comes after Henderson.



Generally, you are absolutely right. However, when Jones speaks, he comes across as being dismissive and arrogant. This isn't the first comment that he has made that alludes to this. Could all Jones' detractors be mistaken about his character? Absolutely. No one here knows the man personally. However, Jones considers himself to be an upstanding guy, he doesn't have a Mayweather persona where he is outwardly dickish, but he still maintains this arrogance, which he doesn't embrace, and that is very off putting to many people.
Gogoplatapus
8/18/12 9:53:03AM

Posted by meier

Basically if hendo doesnt knock him out or machida doesnt win against him then he needs to move up in weight class.



Gustafson and Glover have to be right there if they win. Te Huna maybe? That may be a reach at this point.

There probably isn't much left at LHW if Jones is destroying guys, but he didn't destroy Rashad, and Lyoto gave him some trouble.

Really, he should concentrate on getting past Hendo first.
MALICE
8/18/12 10:07:39AM
"No one wants to see me fight Lyoto Machida.

I do.

"He's a tough fighter, but no one wants to buy that fight.

I do.

"Between (Mauricio) Shogun (Rua), (Quinton) Rampage (Jackson) and Rashad (Evans), Lyoto was my lowest draw. Why would I want to fight someone where it's a lose-lose situation?"

It's a lose-win situation. You may not make as much money as fighting other big names, but I'm sure you won't be making chump change either. Contenders sometimes earn multiple title shots. If they do, beating them further solidifies your place at the top.

"I won't make money on it."

There's that money thing again; it's nice to know what motivates Jones and where his priorities lie.
jlock003
8/18/12 10:17:59AM

Posted by warglory


Posted by jlock003

Ok not trying to pick a fight here at all, but for those of you who didn't get a chance to read the last quote provided for Jones in this piece it was "I don't think it's appropriate to be talking about fighting anybody but Dan Henderson," Jones said. "I'm clearly focused on Dan Henderson. I'm not overlooking Dan." He clearly isn't overlooking Henderson. In reality he has a reporter with a microphone shoved in his face asking him a bunch of questions and taking them out of context to compile what is at best a mediocre representation of what the guy says. I'm the first one to point out Jones is one of the more arrogant fighters out there, but it does seem he is getting way more heat than a lot of guys. Hell some people defended Shogun when he took the Vera fight "Oh it's a lose lose for Shogun to fight Tex." Well if that logic is still remotely sound then Jon has a point. Lastly, fighters do have input as to who they will fight. Nobody is forced to fight anybody else. These guys get signed to a specific number of fights, a specific salary, a specific % of ppv buys, but they don't get signed to a specific number of mandated fights against specific opponents. They get to make the choice as to who they will or won't fight. I'm not a big fan of fighters "ducking" other fighters or just deciding it's a boring fight, but they have that right. It just strikes me as odd that a guy who is about to face his 5th former champ in a row is being criticized for trying to "pick his fights." He's trying to maintain his relevance and as best as I can tell from this piece milled article he's also trying to focus on his immediate task at hand and isn't even thinking about what comes after Henderson.



Generally, you are absolutely right. However, when Jones speaks, he comes across as being dismissive and arrogant. This isn't the first comment that he has made that alludes to this. Could all Jones' detractors be mistaken about his character? Absolutely. No one here knows the man personally. However, Jones considers himself to be an upstanding guy, he doesn't have a Mayweather persona where he is outwardly dickish, but he still maintains this arrogance, which he doesn't embrace, and that is very off putting to many people.



I agree with you wholeheartedly. I'm not even a Jones fan (as far as personality) and I never have been. I was calling him arrogant long before he won the title. It definitely puts people off self included. It just seemed like people weren't acknowledging him at least saying he wasn't looking past Hendo and I've seen countless fighter's words misrepresented in written interviews compiled of hodgepodge quotes. I'm definitely with you though, he stands on that "good guy" persona and comes across incredibly "dickish."
Aether
8/18/12 10:21:02AM
I'm kind of surprised that people are taking this so negatively. It's a completely honest response, and it's refreshing to hear, IMO. He didn't say he would refuse the fight, he explained pretty logically why fighting Machida is just about the worst matchup he could get considering risk vs reward. He'll make less money and have a tougher fight. That's a compliment to Machida, he's saying he knows he's a very dangerous fighter, but that his drawing power doesn't match his skill level.

I don't see why anyone would be upset about someone being concerned about how much money they make. These guys aren't fighting just for honour or a hard reputation, it's their job, of course money is the bottom line.

If he actually tried to refuse the fight, I would have a problem with that, because I don't believe champions should have the right to refuse a contender, but saying that he doesn't like the fight, doesn't want the fight, that it's high risk and will offer him a lower payday... It's just being honest.

Kind of funny since everyone's main complaint about this guy seems to be how fake he is, and yet when he's completely candid, he still gets ripped apart for caring too much about money. It's his job. Anyone here go into work for any reason other than money?
aussiemma
8/18/12 10:29:58AM

Posted by Aether

I'm kind of surprised that people are taking this so negatively. It's a completely honest response, and it's refreshing to hear, IMO. He didn't say he would refuse the fight, he explained pretty logically why fighting Machida is just about the worst matchup he could get considering risk vs reward. He'll make less money and have a tougher fight. That's a compliment to Machida, he's saying he knows he's a very dangerous fighter, but that his drawing power doesn't match his skill level.

I don't see why anyone would be upset about someone being concerned about how much money they make. These guys aren't fighting just for honour or a hard reputation, it's their job, of course money is the bottom line.

If he actually tried to refuse the fight, I would have a problem with that, because I don't believe champions should have the right to refuse a contender, but saying that he doesn't like the fight, doesn't want the fight, that it's high risk and will offer him a lower payday... It's just being honest.

Kind of funny since everyone's main complaint about this guy seems to be how fake he is, and yet when he's completely candid, he still gets ripped apart for caring too much about money. It's his job. Anyone here go into work for any reason other than money?



thankyou !!!

end of discussion me thinks.
sbulldavid
8/18/12 10:30:54AM
Let the man have his opinion, I want to see him fight Machida but I don't even like him or get up for his fights, if he went out and destroyed instead of dominated I would jump out of my seat.
scpd400
8/18/12 10:33:38AM
So Jones is already looking past "Hendo" big mistake. Maybe he don't want to fight Machida becasue Machida actually took a round from Jones. blah blahblah. He will fight who the UFC says he will fight.
OnyxShadow
8/18/12 10:50:09AM
So many fight fans annoyed at Jones for stuff he does and says outside the ring...I dunno, if fighters are entertaining and keep winning they are okay in my book.

Machida did present a new set of challenges for Jones, but I disagree with those that say Bones was in any real danger of losing the fight. He had a somewhat rough first round and then did his thing in the SECOND round.

I'm just tired of rematches in all divisions, and LHW is stacked enough to have little need for them at this point. Alexander Gustafsson has five very solid wins in a row, and I'd say he's done enough to earn a shot AND be a threat to take the belt. After that enough time should have passed given how few title fights happen each year that someone else like Glover Teixeira should have been filtered up to top of the division.
JoeWarren33
8/18/12 11:10:16AM
Boo hoo Jon Jones!!
Nobody cares what you think, so fight who your told to fight! I think you should worry more about not drinking and driving again!!!
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