Joe Rogan: "Randy would maul Cro Cop..."

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Posted by LR

LOL, whoever said CC is overrated needs to delete their account. His record speaks for itself. CC takedown defense is world class, and will probably show up against Kongo. I think we'll see a new CC very soon.

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Why would his take down defense show against Kongo?

Because more likely than not, CC is going to devastate the standup. If he doesn't, he will still have a striking advantage against Kongo. Kongo did show he has some ground tactics against Assuerio Silva, although he never actually mounted Silva and pounded him out. He tried to use the fence and stand GnP Silva a some points in the fight. I think he's going to either:

A. Get KO'd by Mirko in the first round/second round
B. Realize he can't strike standing against Mirko and try to throw him down and
take advantage of using elbows on Mirko or GnPing him.

Fact is, after Gonzaga, fighters will try to take these PRIDE strikers down. I think Kongo may have to, and it won't happen. If you are fighting Mirko, you definitely cannot discount that Mirko was dazed by those elbows on the ground. I see it only reasonable for a fighter to look at that and give it a shot.

honestly i dont know why your getiing pissed.....i mean isnt rogan entitled to his own opinion????

We're not really talking about rogan anymore, lol. The way he said it he didn't mean it would happen, he meant it would have happend, pending a bunch of circumstances.

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Posted by LR

Because more likely than not, CC is going to devastate the standup. If he doesn't, he will still have a striking advantage against Kongo. Kongo did show he has some ground tactics against Assuerio Silva, although he never actually mounted Silva and pounded him out. He tried to use the fence and stand GnP Silva a some points in the fight. I think he's going to either:

A. Get KO'd by Mirko in the first round/second round
B. Realize he can't strike standing against Mirko and try to throw him down and
take advantage of using elbows on Mirko or GnPing him.

Fact is, after Gonzaga, fighters will try to take these PRIDE strikers down. I think Kongo may have to, and it won't happen. If you are fighting Mirko, you definitely cannot discount that Mirko was dazed by those elbows on the ground. I see it only reasonable for a fighter to look at that and give it a shot.

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Ok I can see that. Desparation can definitely lead fighters to do things they wouldn't normally do. But has Kongo ever gone up against a superior striker?

Yvel. He tried to take him down, it didn't go well...

Joe Rogan just talks out of his ass.

rogan knows his shit and randy would beat cro cop because he has the most heart which is what its all about come round 5 baby mirko will have to kick his head into the nosebleeds ti take that belt from ihm

I honestly don't believe you can go 5 rounds with Mirko and not have his foot kill you. It's just to long to be in the ring with him. Randy would need to gnp him in the first 3 rounds.

First of all, who cares what Joe Rogan says, he and Mike goldberg are both ******* idiots! Now, I must admit i was never a pride fan, just never got into it, so i'm not really that familiar with the figters. I heard a lot about Crocop before his UFC debut, but from what i saw, he looks pretty good, but i do beleive Randy would kick his ass. Crocop proved he's terrible on the ground, than for some crazy reason the ref stood him up, and than he got busted with his own specialty. Coture picked apart a much younger, taller, faster and probably stronger fighter in Sylvia, Coture is probably the best fighter to evr fight in UFC, well have to see how longhe can keep it up.

Tim sylvia and Mirko is not even a close comparison. Even the biggest UFC nuthugger coulden't say they're in the same stratosphere of striking, or anything for that matter.

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Posted by cmill21

Tim sylvia and Mirko is not even a close comparison. Even the biggest UFC nuthugger coulden't say they're in the same stratosphere of striking, or anything for that matter.

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You must be trying to be nice... But I agree whole heartedly... Tim's got a "the-biggest-kid-on-the-playground" stance that would be severley exploited if he were to fight an aggresive top level striker.

Yea but Joe is right Couture would maul Cro Cop he just has to take him down and he would destroy him, look what Gonzaga did to him on the ground and he's not even a gnp type fighter.

I dont think he would maul cro cop..but randy would win...

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Posted by Taylor8766

Yea but Joe is right Couture would maul Cro Cop he just has to take him down and he would destroy him, look what Gonzaga did to him on the ground and he's not even a gnp type fighter.

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This is based on one fight.... You do realize fedor(best gnp in mma) didn't maul Mirko so please back this up with more then one fight.

I see a match between Randy vs. CC very similar as it was with Fedor vs. CC. Joe Rogan is actually smart, he's just a huge Couture fan for some reason.

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Posted by Piccosaur

I see a match between Randy vs. CC very similar as it was with Fedor vs. CC. Joe Rogan is actually smart, he's just a huge Couture fan for some reason.

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Ok, lets get this straight.. Couture gets knocked out twice by Liddell who is a good striker with good takedown defense, Couture pretty much has NO chance whatsoever in the last 2 fights...

Now all of a sudden Couture is coming off a win against big Tim Sylvia and he is going to beat Cro Cop, who happens to be one of the best strikers in the world, with the best sprawl and one of the best takedown defenses in the game???

Chuck was obviously a bad match up for Randy the last 2 fights, his "game plans" in those fights failed, Cro Cop would be a nightmare for Couture he wouldn't even have to throw any kicks just sprawl, defend, and punch, with maybe the odd quick leg kick.

People are giving Couture way too much respect, Cro Cop would murder him, and he would murder Napao in a rematch.

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Posted by tye25

First of all, who cares what Joe Rogan says, he and Mike goldberg are both ******* idiots! Now, I must admit i was never a pride fan, just never got into it, so i'm not really that familiar with the figters. I heard a lot about Crocop before his UFC debut, but from what i saw, he looks pretty good, but i do beleive Randy would kick his ass. Crocop proved he's terrible on the ground, than for some crazy reason the ref stood him up, and than he got busted with his own specialty. Coture picked apart a much younger, taller, faster and probably stronger fighter in Sylvia, Coture is probably the best fighter to evr fight in UFC, well have to see how longhe can keep it up.

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1rst. I think Joe ROgan is very knowledgable, and he may be right that Randy would beat Cro-cop . Or, and this is more likely to me, he was just caught up in the post fight excitement and exaggerated a little bit. Randy has never been known to maul anyone, and he is my favorite fighter, so I wish he would . He is great at clinching at little dirt boxing shots. He's good at throwing his hands to set up the takedown. He great at geeting the takedown, and he's great at controlling his opponents ( except Chuck) . He can be dominant( Belfort, Tito, Chuck 1, Mo Smith) , but in a more deliberate manner. I agree the stand up seemed premature, but the irony shows their is a comedic sense of justice to the universe sometimes. Last you admitted your not that familiar with Pride fighter's or Cro-cop, so do you think it's possible your opinion is not an informed one in this case? Cro-cop has been training with Werdum, who is one of the bets BJJ guys in MMA, for years now. I do think his inability to train in a cage, his unfamiliarity with elbows, and Gonzaga's super agressive GnP contributed to his mauling. SO while I don't agree that Randy would maul anyone, I think Gonzaga did maul him. Also, I think Cro-cop is training appropriately in a cage now , and has added Ricco to his team on the ground. I also think he will wup Kongo, and return to form as one of the top Heavyweights in the world. In conclusion I think I would like to see Couture/Cro-cop ,and I'm picking both to win their next fight , but Randy's a controller not a mauler.

I agree with Rogan, taking some one down in the ring and in the cage are two different story's, and you cant even compare Mark C. to Randy he hasn't beaten any one good in the longest in the longest time, well ok hes got one good win if you count the Shogun incident, but other that that he last good win was over Don Fry in 2003, anyways he would beat the shit out of cro cop on the ground.

But I do see what you guy are saying about Rogan, I thought he's was over doing it when he was talking about GSP's lost to Serra, I mean Serra is no can his only loses have come form good fighters(with the exception of Shonie) he did win the TUF tournament, it wasn't an impressive Tourney but he won and proved he can hang with the big dogs but , yeah he was like 'it was a HUMILIATING defeat" come on it not like he lost to Tiki or to some cheap ass fighter

One of the reasons why Rogan said Randy would maul Cro Cop is probably because Cro Cop was not taking the UFC seriously. Prior to his loss, he was still training in the ring and said there was no need to adjust. If you factor in that Cro Cop may underestimate Randy, then it wouldn't be too far of a stretch to see Randy "dominate" Cro Cop.

One of Randy's best traits is that he is a smart fighter, he comes to the fight with a good game plan and implements it to the tee. I know a lot of people are going to hate me when I say this, but I'm pretty sure Cro Cop expected the UFC to be a walk in the park for him compared to PRIDE.