Jamie Varner Still Injured, Interim WEC Lightweight Belt Possible

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emfleek
6/24/09 4:10:16PM
Jamie Varner posted a tweet on the status of his injury:

I just got out of the Docs and hand is still fractured. I'm really upset. I thought I was ready, my hand doesn't even hurt, but the doc pulled the rug out from my feet...

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loller90278
6/24/09 4:18:08PM
cerrone is going to say varner is ducking him hehehe.
Twenty20Dollars
6/24/09 4:46:01PM
Need to make an interim belt because everyone is prolly sick of waiting for Varner.
CwB
6/24/09 4:58:06PM
By the time varners hand heals Cowboy will have already fought twice probably winning the interim belt

ring rust will set in and cowboy will beat varner

COWBOYYY
cowcatcher
6/24/09 5:21:45PM

Posted by loller90278

cerrone is going to say varner is ducking him hehehe.



probably, more fuel to the fire isnt a bad thing for promoting the fight though. who do they toss at cerrone for the interm title match? between the 2 of them they pretty much cleaned out the bulk of the WEC LW divisions top contenders.
whardin19
6/24/09 5:48:50PM
That really sucks. I like Varner myself and was looking forward to the rematch. Now I have to wait even longer. I do think they should make a Interim Lightweight belt though. That title has been undefended for a long time now. Varner is going to have ring rust when he gets back.
Giant_Ochai
6/24/09 7:08:13PM
I say bring Rich Clementi in to the WEC to fight Cerrone for the interim belt.
lohmann
6/24/09 7:24:48PM
There's a few fighters already on the WEC roster that could provide some competition for Cerrone, should there be an interim lightweight belt. I'd like to see him matched up against Anthony Pettis, but since Pettis has had only one fight maybe Benson Henderson? He just steamrolled Shane Roller in their last fight featured on the WEC main card. (Rob McCullough seems the obvious choice, but Cerrone already holds that victory.)
D0wnUnd6e6r
6/25/09 8:51:00AM

Posted by loller90278

cerrone is going to say varner is ducking him hehehe.



as i am
Jackelope
6/25/09 9:31:32AM

Posted by D0wnUnd6e6r


Posted by loller90278

cerrone is going to say varner is ducking him hehehe.



as i am



I'm not going to say what I want to say, because I'm a mod and I have a responsibility to be a "model poster".

I will say this, though. Has anyone considered the fact that Jamie's hand is still broken because of the fact that he took off the cast early and started training too soon? He's itching for this fight so badly that he won't allow his wounds to fully heal. This isn't speculation. This is fact.

For people to say that a guy who dominated another dude for 4 rounds is "scared" of him is just plain dumb. Jamie fights for a living. If he's fought the likes of Hermes Franca do you really think he's scared to fight the likes of Donald Cerrone? Get real. The dude trains and fights against Carlos Condit, Ryan Bader, and CB Dollaway every day. Condit or any one of those other guys would run through Cerrone like a hot knife through butter.

The dude competed and succeeded at the highest level in collegiate wrestling and was in the UFC. That's claim that Cerrone can't match at all. Cerrone's biggest accomplishments are riding bulls and winning some amateur kickboxing matches.

I'm not saying Cerrone isn't a quality opponent, but for people to assume Jamie is scared is just plain wrong. Take your ass down to Arizona combat sports and say it to his face. He's one of the most accessible and nicest guys out there. To keyboard warrior cowards
FlashyG
6/25/09 9:50:49AM
I like Jamie Varner clearly one of the toughest guys in the sport.

He really needs to use his head though, If I remember correctly, when he had his first surgery he took the cast off early, this resulted in a second surgery.

Brilliantly he stated he would be back training without the new cast in 3 weeks. (average healing time for his injury was 6 to 8 weeks).

I hope he comes back strong cause thats one of the few rematches I can't wait to see.

D0wnUnd6e6r
6/25/09 10:11:08AM

Posted by Jackelope


Posted by D0wnUnd6e6r


Posted by loller90278

cerrone is going to say varner is ducking him hehehe.



as i am



I'm not going to say what I want to say, because I'm a mod and I have a responsibility to be a "model poster".

I will say this, though. Has anyone considered the fact that Jamie's hand is still broken because of the fact that he took off the cast early and started training too soon? He's itching for this fight so badly that he won't allow his wounds to fully heal. This isn't speculation. This is fact.

For people to say that a guy who dominated another dude for 4 rounds is "scared" of him is just plain dumb. Jamie fights for a living. If he's fought the likes of Hermes Franca do you really think he's scared to fight the likes of Donald Cerrone? Get real. The dude trains and fights against Carlos Condit, Ryan Bader, and CB Dollaway every day. Condit or any one of those other guys would run through Cerrone like a hot knife through butter.

The dude competed and succeeded at the highest level in collegiate wrestling and was in the UFC. That's claim that Cerrone can't match at all. Cerrone's biggest accomplishments are riding bulls and winning some amateur kickboxing matches.

I'm not saying Cerrone isn't a quality opponent, but for people to assume Jamie is scared is just plain wrong. Take your ass down to Arizona combat sports and say it to his face. He's one of the most accessible and nicest guys out there. To keyboard warrior cowards



before you call people keyboard warrior cowards, you should actually look into who you are addressing. Anyways thanks for the model post
Jackelope
6/25/09 10:51:11AM

Posted by D0wnUnd6e6r


Posted by Jackelope


Posted by D0wnUnd6e6r


Posted by loller90278

cerrone is going to say varner is ducking him hehehe.



as i am



I'm not going to say what I want to say, because I'm a mod and I have a responsibility to be a "model poster".

I will say this, though. Has anyone considered the fact that Jamie's hand is still broken because of the fact that he took off the cast early and started training too soon? He's itching for this fight so badly that he won't allow his wounds to fully heal. This isn't speculation. This is fact.

For people to say that a guy who dominated another dude for 4 rounds is "scared" of him is just plain dumb. Jamie fights for a living. If he's fought the likes of Hermes Franca do you really think he's scared to fight the likes of Donald Cerrone? Get real. The dude trains and fights against Carlos Condit, Ryan Bader, and CB Dollaway every day. Condit or any one of those other guys would run through Cerrone like a hot knife through butter.

The dude competed and succeeded at the highest level in collegiate wrestling and was in the UFC. That's claim that Cerrone can't match at all. Cerrone's biggest accomplishments are riding bulls and winning some amateur kickboxing matches.

I'm not saying Cerrone isn't a quality opponent, but for people to assume Jamie is scared is just plain wrong. Take your ass down to Arizona combat sports and say it to his face. He's one of the most accessible and nicest guys out there. To keyboard warrior cowards



before you call people keyboard warrior cowards, you should actually look into who you are addressing. Anyways thanks for the model post



Neat. You train MT and some JJ. Good for you.

We're better than accusing fighters of running scared around here. If you do train MT and JJ, you know the deal. You fight who you get matched up against, you don't pick and choose your opponents. If your coach says you're fighting this guy or you're sparring against that guy, it doesn't matter. Jamie has said over and over again that it's his job to defend that belt, and he'll defend it from anyone they put in front of him. The dude personally has the medical records and the AC's have produced the medical records, too. All that to back up his claims. Like I said, if I should look into who I'm addressing first and you're such a tough guy, take a flight down to Phoenix and back up your **** talk. No need to prove it to me over the internet. Put your money where your mouth is and show Varner how scared he is.

You're bashing on a dude you don't even know, making claims that are completely contradictory to the evidence. 480-517-1960 That's the number to the gym. Let's see who runs scared now.

jiujitsufreak74
6/25/09 10:53:35AM

Posted by D0wnUnd6e6r

before you call people keyboard warrior cowards, you should actually look into who you are addressing. Anyways thanks for the model post



well what did you expect when you insult a fighter who he sees give his blood and sweat everyday in the gym. i personally can't see how people would think Jamie is ducking Cerrone, but if you do that is your opinion and so be it. it is just painful when you train with some of these guys and you see how hard they are working and then they get injured and people start saying they are ducking fighters; it is unnerving.
D0wnUnd6e6r
6/25/09 11:14:34AM

Posted by Jackelope


Posted by D0wnUnd6e6r


Posted by Jackelope


Posted by D0wnUnd6e6r


Posted by loller90278

cerrone is going to say varner is ducking him hehehe.



as i am



I'm not going to say what I want to say, because I'm a mod and I have a responsibility to be a "model poster".

I will say this, though. Has anyone considered the fact that Jamie's hand is still broken because of the fact that he took off the cast early and started training too soon? He's itching for this fight so badly that he won't allow his wounds to fully heal. This isn't speculation. This is fact.

For people to say that a guy who dominated another dude for 4 rounds is "scared" of him is just plain dumb. Jamie fights for a living. If he's fought the likes of Hermes Franca do you really think he's scared to fight the likes of Donald Cerrone? Get real. The dude trains and fights against Carlos Condit, Ryan Bader, and CB Dollaway every day. Condit or any one of those other guys would run through Cerrone like a hot knife through butter.

The dude competed and succeeded at the highest level in collegiate wrestling and was in the UFC. That's claim that Cerrone can't match at all. Cerrone's biggest accomplishments are riding bulls and winning some amateur kickboxing matches.

I'm not saying Cerrone isn't a quality opponent, but for people to assume Jamie is scared is just plain wrong. Take your ass down to Arizona combat sports and say it to his face. He's one of the most accessible and nicest guys out there. To keyboard warrior cowards



before you call people keyboard warrior cowards, you should actually look into who you are addressing. Anyways thanks for the model post



Neat. You train MT and some JJ. Good for you.

We're better than accusing fighters of running scared around here. If you do train MT and JJ, you know the deal. You fight who you get matched up against, you don't pick and choose your opponents. If your coach says you're fighting this guy or you're sparring against that guy, it doesn't matter. Jamie has said over and over again that it's his job to defend that belt, and he'll defend it from anyone they put in front of him. The dude personally has the medical records and the AC's have produced the medical records, too. All that to back up his claims. Like I said, if I should look into who I'm addressing first and you're such a tough guy, take a flight down to Phoenix and back up your **** talk. No need to prove it to me over the internet. Put your money where your mouth is and show Varner how scared he is.

You're bashing on a dude you don't even know, making claims that are completely contradictory to the evidence. 480-517-1960 That's the number to the gym. Let's see who runs scared now.




ok buddy, your gonna need to chill. I personally don't see saying Varner is ducking Cerrone as a mega huge insult as you guys are making it to be. I'm very sorry if I offended those who clearly shown I have. Keeping in mind that this is only a message board ill discard that last calling up the gym and "putting my money where my mouth is"... and where in my 2 small posts did I even begin trying to make myself as being "such a tough guy" ? . If your goal here was to demonstrate that i'm some sort of a punk for not wanting to fight you cause I live Gatineau, Canada wich is 3,000 miles away, then i guess congrats... I personally don't have the time to make that trip but your more than welcome to come visit me up north, seriously I do not regard saying a fighter is ducking another one as fighter bashing quite honestly, these are my thoughts and that is it. In no way have I personally insulted the skills or achievements of jamie varner nor am I going to, cause I don't think he's a bad fighter at all...he's the champ. As other posters said, I just believe that he either needs to make better efforts in order to recover in a proper way or that he finds an alternative source of motivation to keep on doing what he's doing. What i'm trying to say is that i'm not questioning his health issues, i'm questioning his mental state. I simply didin't believe he was all that motivated anymore after the Cerrone fight. That is all, so let's all take a breather now.
Jackelope
6/25/09 12:42:45PM

Posted by D0wnUnd6e6r
ok buddy, your gonna need to chill. I personally don't see saying Varner is ducking Cerrone as a mega huge insult as you guys are making it to be. I'm very sorry if I offended those who clearly shown I have. Keeping in mind that this is only a message board ill discard that last calling up the gym and "putting my money where my mouth is"... and where in my 2 small posts did I even begin trying to make myself as being "such a tough guy" ? . If your goal here was to demonstrate that i'm some sort of a punk for not wanting to fight you cause I live Gatineau, Canada wich is 3,000 miles away, then i guess congrats... I personally don't have the time to make that trip but your more than welcome to come visit me up north, seriously I do not regard saying a fighter is ducking another one as fighter bashing quite honestly, these are my thoughts and that is it. In no way have I personally insulted the skills or achievements of jamie varner nor am I going to, cause I don't think he's a bad fighter at all...he's the champ. As other posters said, I just believe that he either needs to make better efforts in order to recover in a proper way or that he finds an alternative source of motivation to keep on doing what he's doing. What i'm trying to say is that i'm not questioning his health issues, i'm questioning his mental state. I simply didin't believe he was all that motivated anymore after the Cerrone fight. That is all, so let's all take a breather now.



I didn't say I would fight you, although of course I would, I just said if you think Jamie is such a coward you can fight him yourself. It's so easy to sit behind a monitor and judge these guys. Beyond a shadow of a doubt that is the coward's way. These guys put on a show for your entertainment, judging them besides in the case of completely ridiculous actions like purposely committing fouls or intentionally harming their opponent beyond reasonable means (like holding a choke for too long) is so weak IMO. Even in the case of actions like this I would never accuse the guys of being scared or ducking opponents unless there was evidence to back that claim up.

I mean you're talking about a guy who fought and dominated a guy for four rounds with a broken hand and a broken foot, and you're calling him a coward? That is just crazy IMO. Before you say you "never called him a coward" reference your own post where you accused him of ducking. It's the same exact thing.

Do you have any idea that despite injuries and a well earned resting period the guy was in the gym the very next day training in whatever way he possibly could?

Face it. It was an unnecessary comment insulting a guy that doesn't deserve it.
D0wnUnd6e6r
6/25/09 1:40:12PM
face it, alot of unnecessary things are said on a message boards. A guy said cowboy would say varner was ducking him and i agreed saying i thought so myself. If you did not like that, fine, I said i was sorry before. IMO it was unnecessary of you to immediatly reply by jumping on me and almost calling me out as if i was the world's biggest douchebag for simply stating that i thought he was ducking cowboy cause i didint think he was that motivated to fight him anymore. I don't know how to make you understand that it is all that im questionning of varner's and i'm not trying to attack him in any kind of way. Questioning someone's motivation to fight another opponent is not that big of a deal.
Jackelope
6/25/09 4:04:00PM

Posted by D0wnUnd6e6r

face it, alot of unnecessary things are said on a message boards. A guy said cowboy would say varner was ducking him and i agreed saying i thought so myself. If you did not like that, fine, I said i was sorry before. IMO it was unnecessary of you to immediatly reply by jumping on me and almost calling me out as if i was the world's biggest douchebag for simply stating that i thought he was ducking cowboy cause i didint think he was that motivated to fight him anymore. I don't know how to make you understand that it is all that im questionning of varner's and i'm not trying to attack him in any kind of way. Questioning someone's motivation to fight another opponent is not that big of a deal.



Well as you can imagine, I'm pretty familiar with things that are said on message boards. I spend a pretty decent amount of time daily perusing through posts cause its part of my job as a moderator.

I'm not saying you're the world's biggest douchebag, I'm just presenting facts trying to get people to understand how ridiculous the things they're saying are. Someone like Varner who has faced world class competition his entire adult life being afraid of a guy whom he dominated through the majority of their first fight just makes no sense. As I've maintained since the beginning- for not knowing the full story behind everything that is going on I'd say assuming that he's scared or ducking is pretty unnecessary and also insulting. Obviously I've got somewhat of a personal stake in this, but besides that personal stake I find it ridiculous to assume ANY professional fighter is ever "scared" of another one. I mean, if you deliver the mail for a living does that mean sometimes you get scared of waking up in the morning and delivering mail? I don't think so.

In cases like Tito vs. Chuck, obviously there was ducking involved. In cases like Varner vs. Cowboy when there are athletic commissions and doctors that won't clear a person to fight, how does that equate to ducking? Especially when there's X-rays, surgeries, etc. involved and documented? It makes absolutely no sense, and when I see ridiculousness like that I'm going to make it a point to call it out.

One final point- this is the dude's job. It is how he makes a living. Now the guy has to pay medical bills out the ass, go through multiple surgeries, sit out from doing what he loves, lose income, and all the while get insulted by people who don't even know him? Sounds like a rough deal, and he's way less than deserving of the disrespect that a lot of people, yourself included, are showing him.

I'm not asking for an apology or to call out your manhood. I'm just asking for fans who would accuse Varner of ducking to put themselves in his shoes for a minute and stop sounding so damn ridiculous.



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