Posted by gspfan
Posted by raindrops21
I'm not hopping on any O'Brien bandwagon anytime soon, and I really can't believe anybody thought that he was that dominant in his previous performance that they'd say he is a sure bet win.
Good response except for the fact that you say Herring has a questionable ground game. Herring's ground game is very underrated, but he was completely neutralized by O'Brein who did nothing but lay and pray. Have you seen Herring's fights with Noguiera? Give those a go and watch that ground work. Herring looked unprepared, and I truthfully think he was expecting more stand-ups from the refs.
Now if you would of said Herrings take down defense, I would totally agree with you, because his takedown defense isn't great, and the lack of no knees on the ground really hurts Herring's game.
Right on. I have actually seen the Nog/Herring fights. You are definatly right, his ground game was descent. My only question is, what happened? He did absolutely nothing from the bottom. He tried nothing! You can say that he was neutralized by the lay and prey, but he wasn't even trying. It just gave me the assumption that he had no clue on what to do.
I seriously think he was affected by the rule change. He had north south position more than once and was unable to throw knees from that position because of the rule change. I also think he was expecting O'Brien to be stood up for no action, but as we know the UFC sometimes gives favorable advantages to wrestlers. As far as his submissions and ground game, for some reason he kept going for that anaconda choke when he could have applied a guillotine and would of been much more effective. I don't know how many of you have wrestled, but when a top caliber wrestler has you on your back, it's not easy at all to get up, I don't care who you are. (Except Chuck Liddell). I didn't get to see the Brad Imes/Herring fight either but I expected Heath to finish Imes off rather easily, bu apparently that didn't happen from what I've read.
Hopefully Herring and Nogueira give us a fight like the previous first two, that would make me very happy.