Jack's Rants-8/10/08

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JackHammerXXX
8/10/08 7:20:35PM
Alright, let's get to this...

1.I'ma start with the freshest rant in my system...some post-UFC 87 thoughts. The question of "who can beat Anderson Silva?" might have had a spark in regards to none other than Mr.Demian Maia. I know, I know. It's not like he beat anybody in the top ten(in the world...No...but maybe the UFC's top ten MW?) but, Jason Mac has only been beat by Richie, and Okami in the UFC if I'm not mistaken(1st time for everything). He's a legit competitor, for an up and comer to make a name for himself. Maia displayed what is said to be, some of, if not the best ground, and BJJ skills in the UFC, today. Now, I'm no expert, but seeing a man get out of two, fight ending submission attempts, and attempting one himself, during one of Mac's attacks...? tells me this guy looks like what they "say" hes like. Now, also, he did go for the kill, and that's what I hoped to see from him. One thing to be known as a ground specialist, another to be a killer. And that folks, is what it's going to take, "to take" out the Spider. Next fight? Maybe Dec., against Okami or Franklin, after Hamill takes care of him?

2.Kongo's post fight interview was a joke. Besides walking away from Joe in the middle of it, he made a a@# of himself by claiming he deserves a title shot. Listen, the HW division is the most undecided one of them all. I still don't understand the fact that Frank Mir gets a shot at the title. All he did was take out a rookie, mind you a freakishly big and strong rookie, but hey, we're talking bout a championship fight? Anyway, Chick Wrongo beat Cro-Flop after Mirko was still shell shocked from the "Kick from Hell", then he got beat, decisivly by a real veteran fighter, Heath Herring. Now, this guy beat Dan "I've never heard of" Evenson?, on the undercard and you want the title shot?! Brock Lesnar, Cain Velasquez, Shane Carwin, Mark Coleman, all will be available by year end, please UFC, put this guy in there with somebody like these guys.

3.Huerta's No Hit, All Miss and Florian's Unfinished Business
Roger Huerta went to train with one of the best in the world for his fight with Kenny. GSP. Now, I know Roger sport his briefs in the octagon, like ol' George, and flung kicks, and punches similar to St.Pierre, but after watching both their fights, one thing was clear. St.Pierre-Authentic Huerta-Generic/Imitation I don't know how many superman punches Roger threw, and didn't land, how many lazy, weak kicks he threw. After watching the main event. I kept thinking "everything Rush is doing, looks right...Huerta tried that, this, and it didn't look like this, it didn't work like it did here" NO KNOCK to Roger, GSP is an elite, top tier fighter, but when you come out acknowledging his skills, how great they are, don't try to be like him, because that's not what got you where you are. One fight left on contract. I look for it to get alil ugly here, will see how it plays out. To Roger, fight on and make that money. Fight on the Dec. card, screw it against one of the winners of the co-main events on the Sept. Fight Night card(Diaz, Danzig, or Guida rematch anyone?)
Florian has made his case for "finishing fights", well in this case he played the smart, strategic, yet safe, way of "finishing his fight" Sat. Instead of pressing when it looked like Roger had little, if any will left in him in the 3rd, he bounced around and took him down, to wade out the time. Now, I know, he said he didn't want to bang with Huerta, blah blah, but hey, you don't finish a guy by working your feet, and only engaging here and there. You do it by not thinking you have the fight won until the clock runs out, and fighting for the win/kill the whole time. But, I'm no Professional, good game plan, most importantly, execution, Ken-Flo. Put him in their with Frankie Edgar, or Maynard.

4.Lesnar's performance...before, and after.
That right hand!...whew...How did Heath not see it coming? I can't believe Brock just let himself hold Herring up after that, for a minute it seemed. He wasn't going to choke him out like that. So, instead of seeing a quick KO, we saw Lesnar lay, and really, did good ground and pounding on Heath I must say. All things aside, Herring looked humbled throughout ever since he was floored, and who wouldn't, you fighting a beast and he rocked you with one punch. Although Herring looked pumped, and ready to fight, he looked like he wanted no part of the monster. Nice eye poke Miraglitasiaotaojottta! All in all, any impression I had turned sour, when Lesnar showed The Crazy Horse up by roping him up with a fake rope, as they walked away. I love competing, and even some healthy trash talk, but don't try to act like you the s@$# cuz you landed a nice, hellacious punch, but then didn't capitalize on for 2 4/5's rounds you over grown(juice anyone?) bull! I want to see him with Coleman, Velasquez, Carwin, or Kongo next.

5. UFC's LW & WW titles?
If, and when the GSP Penn fight happens, with Florian already saying he expects to fight again, before the title shot comes, and Alves going ahead with a fight with Sanchez, what do these guys got to do, or how long will they have to wait for their chance at the belt? I see Florian maybe, waiting for the winner of Sherk/Griffin in Oct. to fight next, for the belt. Alves could see a rematch with Fitch if he wins, or Diego could fight a Koscheck rematch if he wins to find the next one in line. But, with so many guys primed to be champions, how long they stay ready for their chance, when they're baited into fights against top contenders? Time will tell, I'm a fan, first and foremost, so I love seeing the fights. Open weight, No problem. Champion vs. Champion, let's do it. I just see the disheartening factor for these guys, knowing more marketable and profitable matchups, can be a burden to their own careers, and success'.

6. Tito signed with Affliction. He's fighting Babalu in Oct as it's been reported. Now, wasn't...isn't Sobral set to fight at the Strikeforce card at the Playboy Mansion in Sept. just 3 weeks, I think, before? Hmmm....don't know what that means. Hope he doesn't fight, and then come into a fight with Ortiz less than in top shape, and lose. Because I like Babalu, and hope he takes it to Ortiz. No think for Tito, but I'd like to see him lose, again and find something to blame, or find another route at explaining how good he "was" because he can't be as good anymore trick, again. Oh and his praising of the troops is real cute too, after he acts a ass leading up the fights.

Well, my hands and fingers hurt, until next ranting....The Hammer
Jackelope
8/10/08 7:38:45PM

Posted by JackHammerXXX

3.Huerta's No Hit, All Miss and Florian's Unfinished Business
Roger Huerta went to train with one of the best in the world for his fight with Kenny. GSP. Now, I know Roger sport his briefs in the octagon, like ol' George, and flung kicks, and punches similar to St.Pierre, but after watching both their fights, one thing was clear. St.Pierre-Authentic Huerta-Generic/Imitation I don't know how many superman punches Roger threw, and didn't land, how many lazy, weak kicks he threw. After watching the main event. I kept thinking "everything Rush is doing, looks right...Huerta tried that, this, and it didn't look like this, it didn't work like it did here" NO KNOCK to Roger, GSP is an elite, top tier fighter, but when you come out acknowledging his skills, how great they are, don't try to be like him, because that's not what got you where you are. One fight left on contract. I look for it to get alil ugly here, will see how it plays out. To Roger, fight on and make that money. Fight on the Dec. card, screw it against one of the winners of the co-main events on the Sept. Fight Night card(Diaz, Danzig, or Guida rematch anyone?)
Florian has made his case for "finishing fights", well in this case he played the smart, strategic, yet safe, way of "finishing his fight" Sat. Instead of pressing when it looked like Roger had little, if any will left in him in the 3rd, he bounced around and took him down, to wade out the time. Now, I know, he said he didn't want to bang with Huerta, blah blah, but hey, you don't finish a guy by working your feet, and only engaging here and there. You do it by not thinking you have the fight won until the clock runs out, and fighting for the win/kill the whole time. But, I'm no Professional, good game plan, most importantly, execution, Ken-Flo. Put him in their with Frankie Edgar, or Maynard.




Kenflo did the right thing vs. Huerta. Huerta's fight fuel is emotion, and he played the right gameplan against that. As much as I want to see Kenflo finish fights I can let it go in this instance. His standup looked phenomenal. He played the angles and footwork perfectly and didn't let Huerta get into an emotional slugfest state of mind. He kept him thinking on the feet and took all the emotion out of the fight.

The one thing Huerta dramatically impressed me with was his escapes from the ground. I think Kenny could have possibly finished him there, but risking a reversal from an escape artist like Huerta can be a bad thing. Again, Kenny did the right thing by not going for the finish on the ground.

Pretty enjoyable rants, though.

JackHammerXXX
8/10/08 8:47:53PM
I agree that it was one of the very few shining points for Huerta in this fight, that he escaped a good ground guys' control throughout the fight. But, that's his bread and butter. Crane was pretty much, all BJJ, and he had no problem with that guy(he's no Florian obviously). Now, like I said, Florian did what he had to, and the right thing to do with a fighter like Roger. He had the right frame of mind, and more importantly, he stayed in that mind frame during the fight. Now, what bothered me was that when I can see that Huerta was out of it, mentally, I believe, in the 3rd, Kenny didn't press the action on him as much as I've come to expect from him, esp. when he has always "finished fights". When I guy is hurt, fatigued, gassed, etc. a fighter has to capitalize, or otherwise apply pressure. Now, maybe Florian had that much respect for Huerta that he, not at any point, wanted to bang it out with the Matador and rightfully so, the guy is a tough son of a b@#^&.But, hey, I guess I'm just nit picking an otherwise good fight. And for the record, I had it going to a decision, so tech. I did get what I expected, except I had it split, so I did expect Huerta to make it harder for the judges.
Jackelope
8/10/08 9:43:44PM

Posted by JackHammerXXX

I agree that it was one of the very few shining points for Huerta in this fight, that he escaped a good ground guys' control throughout the fight. But, that's his bread and butter. Crane was pretty much, all BJJ, and he had no problem with that guy(he's no Florian obviously). Now, like I said, Florian did what he had to, and the right thing to do with a fighter like Roger. He had the right frame of mind, and more importantly, he stayed in that mind frame during the fight. Now, what bothered me was that when I can see that Huerta was out of it, mentally, I believe, in the 3rd, Kenny didn't press the action on him as much as I've come to expect from him, esp. when he has always "finished fights". When I guy is hurt, fatigued, gassed, etc. a fighter has to capitalize, or otherwise apply pressure. Now, maybe Florian had that much respect for Huerta that he, not at any point, wanted to bang it out with the Matador and rightfully so, the guy is a tough son of a b@#^&.But, hey, I guess I'm just nit picking an otherwise good fight. And for the record, I had it going to a decision, so tech. I did get what I expected, except I had it split, so I did expect Huerta to make it harder for the judges.



Yeah, I can understand him not going for the kill, though. Huerta seems to get more dangerous the closer he is to going out. I dunno if he just plays possum or if that's the way he works, but it definitely seems that way. He did it against Leonard Garcia and against Clay Guida.
mrkennedy
8/10/08 9:45:32PM

Posted by Jackelope


Posted by JackHammerXXX

3.Huerta's No Hit, All Miss and Florian's Unfinished Business
Roger Huerta went to train with one of the best in the world for his fight with Kenny. GSP. Now, I know Roger sport his briefs in the octagon, like ol' George, and flung kicks, and punches similar to St.Pierre, but after watching both their fights, one thing was clear. St.Pierre-Authentic Huerta-Generic/Imitation I don't know how many superman punches Roger threw, and didn't land, how many lazy, weak kicks he threw. After watching the main event. I kept thinking "everything Rush is doing, looks right...Huerta tried that, this, and it didn't look like this, it didn't work like it did here" NO KNOCK to Roger, GSP is an elite, top tier fighter, but when you come out acknowledging his skills, how great they are, don't try to be like him, because that's not what got you where you are. One fight left on contract. I look for it to get alil ugly here, will see how it plays out. To Roger, fight on and make that money. Fight on the Dec. card, screw it against one of the winners of the co-main events on the Sept. Fight Night card(Diaz, Danzig, or Guida rematch anyone?)
Florian has made his case for "finishing fights", well in this case he played the smart, strategic, yet safe, way of "finishing his fight" Sat. Instead of pressing when it looked like Roger had little, if any will left in him in the 3rd, he bounced around and took him down, to wade out the time. Now, I know, he said he didn't want to bang with Huerta, blah blah, but hey, you don't finish a guy by working your feet, and only engaging here and there. You do it by not thinking you have the fight won until the clock runs out, and fighting for the win/kill the whole time. But, I'm no Professional, good game plan, most importantly, execution, Ken-Flo. Put him in their with Frankie Edgar, or Maynard.




Kenflo did the right thing vs. Huerta. Huerta's fight fuel is emotion, and he played the right gameplan against that. As much as I want to see Kenflo finish fights I can let it go in this instance. His standup looked phenomenal. He played the angles and footwork perfectly and didn't let Huerta get into an emotional slugfest state of mind. He kept him thinking on the feet and took all the emotion out of the fight.

The one thing Huerta dramatically impressed me with was his escapes from the ground. I think Kenny could have possibly finished him there, but risking a reversal from an escape artist like Huerta can be a bad thing. Again, Kenny did the right thing by not going for the finish on the ground.

Pretty enjoyable rants, though.






agree Props for kenny but PROPS for Mark Delagrotte who always came with GREAT gameplan
Mr_Dead_Sexy
8/10/08 9:54:06PM

agree Props for kenny but PROPS for Mark Delagrotte who always came with GREAT gameplan


It almost seems like Sityodtong is the Milletich of the UFC right now, the camp that houses fighters who just don't seem to lose. Milletich did that around the 03-06 years. And recently, fighters from Sityodtong had like a 13 or so fight win streak in the UFC. I think that stopped when Rivera got subbed. But hey, they have Cote fighting Anderson, and likely Kenny vs BJ.
Jackelope
8/10/08 10:00:22PM

Posted by mrkennedy


Posted by Jackelope


Posted by JackHammerXXX

3.Huerta's No Hit, All Miss and Florian's Unfinished Business
Roger Huerta went to train with one of the best in the world for his fight with Kenny. GSP. Now, I know Roger sport his briefs in the octagon, like ol' George, and flung kicks, and punches similar to St.Pierre, but after watching both their fights, one thing was clear. St.Pierre-Authentic Huerta-Generic/Imitation I don't know how many superman punches Roger threw, and didn't land, how many lazy, weak kicks he threw. After watching the main event. I kept thinking "everything Rush is doing, looks right...Huerta tried that, this, and it didn't look like this, it didn't work like it did here" NO KNOCK to Roger, GSP is an elite, top tier fighter, but when you come out acknowledging his skills, how great they are, don't try to be like him, because that's not what got you where you are. One fight left on contract. I look for it to get alil ugly here, will see how it plays out. To Roger, fight on and make that money. Fight on the Dec. card, screw it against one of the winners of the co-main events on the Sept. Fight Night card(Diaz, Danzig, or Guida rematch anyone?)
Florian has made his case for "finishing fights", well in this case he played the smart, strategic, yet safe, way of "finishing his fight" Sat. Instead of pressing when it looked like Roger had little, if any will left in him in the 3rd, he bounced around and took him down, to wade out the time. Now, I know, he said he didn't want to bang with Huerta, blah blah, but hey, you don't finish a guy by working your feet, and only engaging here and there. You do it by not thinking you have the fight won until the clock runs out, and fighting for the win/kill the whole time. But, I'm no Professional, good game plan, most importantly, execution, Ken-Flo. Put him in their with Frankie Edgar, or Maynard.




Kenflo did the right thing vs. Huerta. Huerta's fight fuel is emotion, and he played the right gameplan against that. As much as I want to see Kenflo finish fights I can let it go in this instance. His standup looked phenomenal. He played the angles and footwork perfectly and didn't let Huerta get into an emotional slugfest state of mind. He kept him thinking on the feet and took all the emotion out of the fight.

The one thing Huerta dramatically impressed me with was his escapes from the ground. I think Kenny could have possibly finished him there, but risking a reversal from an escape artist like Huerta can be a bad thing. Again, Kenny did the right thing by not going for the finish on the ground.

Pretty enjoyable rants, though.






agree Props for kenny but PROPS for Mark Delagrotte who always came with GREAT gameplan



Delagrotte was definitely a big factor in the precision striking and footwork of Kenflo. Glad to see fans recognizing trainers! Props

edit: Damn can't give props cuz I reached the maximum 24 hour allowable prop limit ( Didn't know there was one)
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