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40ouncetpkid
11/23/13 5:35:21AM
Like a fighter got KOd and was never the same again.

Of course Chuck and Cro Cop come to mind. Besides the Wandy fight after he was KOd by Rampage he was never the same. Cro Cop too after the Gonzaga KO took the life out of him and he never could beat top competition again.

Any other examples come to mind?
hotrodttt
11/23/13 8:03:28AM
All of bj penns wins tbh, Stevenson and Sherk for sure. Another one is Machida breaking his arm against Coleman
prozacnation1978
11/23/13 8:16:45AM
I think you mean Shogun vs Coleman

Liddell is best example

Another is Andre Arlovski after tim slyvia beat him
sparky
11/23/13 12:20:52PM
Josh Koscheck
pmoney
11/23/13 12:47:21PM
I dare say Rashad Evans. Since the Machida KO, he has been scared to strike with just about everyone. Someone finally must have gotten in his ear with this Sonnen fight and said "Go box him up, he literally cannot knock you out"
jae_1833
11/23/13 3:08:35PM
Kongo after Mir
Irvin after Silva
Griffin after Silva
Martin after Leben
Sylvia after Couture
40ouncetpkid
11/23/13 4:33:14PM

Posted by pmoney

I dare say Rashad Evans. Since the Machida KO, he has been scared to strike with just about everyone. Someone finally must have gotten in his ear with this Sonnen fight and said "Go box him up, he literally cannot knock you out"



And even then he didnt even box they just held each other against the cage before he took him down.its pretty mind boggling to me hell stand all day with lil nog but wrestle chael and davis.

Not sure about Randleman. He got KOd by Rampage then KOd Cro Cop and then lost that wild Fedor fight and never won a relevant fight again. He went 3-10 after Rampage but I donr know who to give credit!
warglory
11/23/13 4:50:30PM
How about the opposite direction? Matt Serra's punch that just about KO'd GSP made him champion and one of the few men to say they have defeated GSP.
hotrodttt
11/23/13 5:56:41PM

Posted by warglory

How about the opposite direction? Matt Serra's punch that just about KO'd GSP made him champion and one of the few men to say they have defeated GSP.



Werdum's triangle win over Fedor
tcunningham
11/23/13 7:59:36PM
Sylvia after Couture came out of retirement. timmy took that hard
Pskinner_mma314
11/23/13 11:43:09PM

Posted by warglory

How about the opposite direction? Matt Serra's punch that just about KO'd GSP made him champion and one of the few men to say they have defeated GSP.



I still hate how people call that KO a fluke. GSP didn't take Matt seriously, Matt threw some punches and they landed. Don't think Matt wasn't tryin to land those. GSP has played it safe ever since besides the rematch, Penn and Fitch. He lost his killer instinct
infestructure
11/24/13 2:37:49AM

Posted by hotrodttt


Posted by warglory

How about the opposite direction? Matt Serra's punch that just about KO'd GSP made him champion and one of the few men to say they have defeated GSP.



Werdum's triangle win over Fedor



Everyone saw how flukey that was. Fedor was the greatest of his time.

Bisping has never been the same after he got H-Bombed

Terry Etim had his hype train stopped in the dust after Barboza got his HL reel finish kick off

Also Struve had to quit fighting after Hunto turned his chin

airkerma
11/24/13 10:04:47AM
For kongo I would actually say cain. After that fight he was frequenting his role as cup cheick kongo what with all his new found love for wrestling.

DoTheMMAth
11/24/13 1:46:39PM

Posted by tcunningham

Sylvia after Couture came out of retirement. timmy took that hard



Sometimes I wonder if Timmy was just a lrage man to deal with at a time when the UFC's heavyweight division was at it's worst, or if he actually did lose his mojo really bad. He did have some pretty heavy hands and even some kicks when he was first champ.



Posted by jae_1833

Kongo after Mir
Irvin after Silva
Griffin after Silva
Martin after Leben
Sylvia after Couture



Yeah, I swear Anderson KO'd a part of Forrest's soul with his striking voodoo.
tepid55
11/24/13 4:26:39PM
Chuck Liddell never seemed quite the same after Quinton Jackson KO'ed him in the UFC, and Takanori Gomi was never the same after Nick Diaz submitted him with that gogoplata at PRIDE 33.
warglory
11/24/13 7:16:48PM

Posted by tepid55

Chuck Liddell never seemed quite the same after Quinton Jackson KO'ed him in the UFC, and Takanori Gomi was never the same after Nick Diaz submitted him with that gogoplata at PRIDE 33.



Liddell I think got increasingly better at the end of his career, despite his losses. I just think Liddell was a brawler of a bygone era, and experienced a wave of new up and comers that were simply better fighters than him, even in his prime.

I mean look what Rampage did to him in PRIDE. Rampage was just a much more diverse, well put together fighter (crazy to think that seeing how even more diverse fighters are these days, making Rampage look one dimensional).
GDPofMPG
11/26/13 12:02:21PM
Fedor Curse
Bubbles
11/26/13 1:07:46PM

Posted by infestructure

Also Struve had to quit fighting after Hunto turned his chin



yeah.....I'm pretty sure that is not the reason
Bubbles
11/26/13 1:12:24PM
for me the #1 answer is Miguel Torres

Prior to the Bowles fight, he was 37-1 and on a 17 fight win streak. He was heavily debated as being a top 5 p4p fighter. Since the loss to Bowles, he is 3-5 and losing to subpar talent in WSOF. Now the Mighty Mouse fight was a little controversial so who knows how that could have changed things, but he has really fallen off the rails.
GDPofMPG
11/26/13 2:11:19PM

Posted by Bubbles

for me the #1 answer is Miguel Torres

Prior to the Bowles fight, he was 37-1 and on a 17 fight win streak. He was heavily debated as being a top 5 p4p fighter. Since the loss to Bowles, he is 3-5 and losing to subpar talent in WSOF. Now the Mighty Mouse fight was a little controversial so who knows how that could have changed things, but he has really fallen off the rails.



Good add, as much as I like Torres, I've gotta be fair, Torres had one of the most padded combat sports records, perhaps ever. He had a lot of talent, but before fighting in the WEC, he was fighting bad fighters, and a lot of them. of the 33 fighters he faced before the WEC, 8 of them had their first and last MMA fights in a loss to Torres, the average number of pro fights of his opponents was less then 7, over half of the 30 different fighters didn't have winning records before fighting Torres or after.

Torres opponents records when their fight together was over:
0-1
1-2
0-1
4-1-1
2-1
3-1
0-1
1-1
0-1
2-5
0-1
3-1
5-2
3-2
0-1
4-6
0-1
11-4-1 - Miguel's first and only loss in his first 38 fights.
4-2-1
3-2
12-5-1
3-5
16-16-1
12-8
10-5-1
8-3
3-7
4-6
4-4
1-1 This epitomizes Torres early career to me. 32-1 fighting against a guy 1-1.
Total: 125-103-6
Average: 3.8-3.1-.2
Conclusion: Padded record.

It wasn't that Torres was bad, it was that he was no longer fighting guys obviously not on his level. He was on an even playing field in WEC and UFC and I thought he beat MM. But the WSOF sub par talent? Come on, Moreas shouldn't be called sub anything by anyone, it was no surprise he beat Torres.
Webbie
11/26/13 6:52:59PM
Yeah, not to mention the way he blames things like his shorts for his losses
prozacnation1978
11/27/13 5:39:24AM
You could easily say
Mike Brown as well.

Went from beating Faber twice
Lost to Aldo. Hasn't been the same.
Bubbles
11/27/13 10:31:45AM

Posted by GDPofMPG

It wasn't that Torres was bad, it was that he was no longer fighting guys obviously not on his level. He was on an even playing field in WEC and UFC and I thought he beat MM. But the WSOF sub par talent? Come on, Moreas shouldn't be called sub anything by anyone, it was no surprise he beat Torres.


I was more referring to the Alonso loss, but yeah I think the Moraes loss was a bit surprising. Also, you know that anyone not in the UFC is subpar right?

DrivenDavies15
11/27/13 1:27:19PM
I've just thought of some:
Even though this isn't really changing his career forever because after he moved down to WW he went on an impressive tear, Demian Maia was never the same at Middleweight once Nate Marquardt knocked his block off. 5 straight impressive subs to start his UFC career and then going 4-3 all decisions and pretty lackluster fights at that maybe apart from the Munoz loss. But none were very memorable.

Also if we're going the other way I definitely think Junior Dos Santos one punch KO of Werdum definitely changed his career forever. He was a basically unknown guy, hug underdog going up against Werdum, who was right near the front of the line at HW at the time and if JDS had put on a bad performance they might never have had him back based on huge opportunity he was gifted. Instead he started his highly successful UFC career
infestructure
11/27/13 11:37:03PM

Posted by Bubbles


Posted by infestructure

Also Struve had to quit fighting after Hunto turned his chin



yeah.....I'm pretty sure that is not the reason



He says its a heart problem. I say its a chin problem
Boo_Radley21
11/29/13 2:17:59PM
After Vitor got that front kick from Silva he became an even bigger beast
warglory
11/29/13 9:25:23PM

Posted by DrivenDavies15

I've just thought of some:
Even though this isn't really changing his career forever because after he moved down to WW he went on an impressive tear, Demian Maia was never the same at Middleweight once Nate Marquardt knocked his block off. 5 straight impressive subs to start his UFC career and then going 4-3 all decisions and pretty lackluster fights at that maybe apart from the Munoz loss. But none were very memorable.

Also if we're going the other way I definitely think Junior Dos Santos one punch KO of Werdum definitely changed his career forever. He was a basically unknown guy, hug underdog going up against Werdum, who was right near the front of the line at HW at the time and if JDS had put on a bad performance they might never have had him back based on huge opportunity he was gifted. Instead he started his highly successful UFC career



I don't think that was due to his loss to Marquardt, I think Demian wanted to take chances by demonstrating his boxing acumen. Clearly this was a mistake, one that he has recently rectified on his latest streak.
Webbie
11/29/13 9:30:12PM

Posted by Boo_Radley21

After Vitor got that TRT he became an even bigger beast



FlashyG
11/29/13 10:11:09PM

Posted by infestructure


Posted by Bubbles


Posted by infestructure

Also Struve had to quit fighting after Hunto turned his chin



yeah.....I'm pretty sure that is not the reason



He says its a heart problem. I say its a chin problem






And clearly you have more insight into his health than himself or his doctor(s).
Bubbles
11/29/13 10:49:49PM

Posted by FlashyG


Posted by infestructure


Posted by Bubbles


Posted by infestructure

Also Struve had to quit fighting after Hunto turned his chin



yeah.....I'm pretty sure that is not the reason



He says its a heart problem. I say its a chin problem






And clearly you have more insight into his health than himself or his doctor(s).


or the fact that his career didn't end after fighting Nelson or Browne or Buentello or Barry or JDS
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