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loonytnt
8/24/07 10:40:26PM
what do you all think about this show? i think its pretty cool, those guys got balls to fight after not a lot of trainin
Svartorm
8/25/07 2:14:26AM
Cool concept. I've only got two problems with it. 1. That football player guy is the most uncoordinated dude I've ever seen. 2. They ham it up a bit too much sometimes with "deadly techniques". That double uppercut from the Muay Thai one was probably the lamest so far.
nate22
8/25/07 7:57:00AM
Great program, I really enjoy it. I've seen alot of people put it down for no apparant reason and irrelevant reasons but it does the trick for me.
SpiderSilva
8/25/07 10:19:00AM
In like the show fav was when the big guy tied the french champ in the fight LOL tied the champ with little training
AchillesHeel
8/25/07 11:36:49AM
I like the show, even though I agree with some of the criticisms. I have to wonder if the matches against these "champions" are somehow staged.

Last night's show was on Pankration. It's too bad I didn't know about it beforehand, I would've told people here about it.

For those who don't know, Pankration is a weaponless, striking & grappling martial art developed by soldiers and gladiators in Greece between 600-700 B.C.

For comparison, Shaolin Kung Fu is believed to have developed around 600 A.D. Buddhist monks in China are believed to have practiced martial arts from sometime in the 5th Century A.D. Pankration even predates Muay Boran, which is the predecessor of Muay Thai (Tony Jaa supposedly used Muay Boran in the film Ong Bak). Some people think Pankration is literally the world's first organized martial art.

Anyway, martial artists in Greece have tried to revive Pankration only within the last 20 years. Among other thing, they've used ancient Greek sculptures, painted vases, and wall murals to attempt to figure out the techniques. What strikes people today about Pankration is that it practically is mixed martial arts.

On the opposite end of the spectrum, next week's episode is about Krav Maga, which is probably about as far from MMA as you can get. Use Krav Maga in an MMA match, and you'll get disqualified. Maybe also arrested.
postman
8/25/07 4:43:35PM
I DVR it ever week.
puppetmaster837
8/25/07 7:35:29PM
I seriously think the guys they fight at the end take it easy on them. Like the muay thai one, that guy is a world champion, he could have cracked his skull but the main thing he was doing was front kicks. I do like the show though.
bayonetxwork
8/25/07 8:46:44PM
I like the show, but I hate the football player thats on the show. I'd rather watch the guy that does MMA compete in everyone because he is somewhat versed in numerous martial arts already.
Pitbull09
8/27/07 3:42:35AM
Good show. I like how almost every fight is the smaller guy and he always goes to his "MMA experience" that never helps him and he still gets screwed. The bigger guy isnt to bright either.

Great show overall though/
Svartorm
8/27/07 5:04:27AM
In the main fights, yeah, but in the Judo episode, he took out almost all the judo fighters he went against except the actual end fight.

I figured if he was doing the show, he was probably a lousy MMA fighter, but I looked up his record and its actually pretty damn good. If I recall correctly, its 9-1, and his only loss is to Thiago Alves.
nate22
8/27/07 5:40:03AM
I don't know why everyone hates the Stone Cold lookalike so much? I suppose he's not entirley appropiate, but he gives it a good shot everytime.
KissMyBallz
8/30/07 3:50:32PM
Probably but guess who's going to be on the episode with Krav Maga?

Randy Couture

Bas Rutten

Eddie Bravo

Josh Barnett

Cung Le

Forrst Griffin

Each will add what they've contributed to Israeli Krav Maga according to Jason Chambers post on another forum.

They may not use the techniques in MMA, but they definitely practice the self defense aspect of it which is what Krav Maga is. It is a military self defense system incorporating the concepts of Kickboxing, Jiu Jitsu, Wrestling, and boxing.

In other words, it's a mixed martial art.

mrsmiley
8/31/07 9:41:29PM
Pretty cool show.Some of the stuff I kind of get 'iffy' about but I realy enjoy it!
CWall33
9/1/07 8:35:40AM

Posted by KissMyBallz

Probably but guess who's going to be on the episode with Krav Maga?

Randy Couture

Bas Rutten

Eddie Bravo

Josh Barnett

Cung Le

Forrst Griffin

Each will add what they've contributed to Israeli Krav Maga according to Jason Chambers post on another forum.



You may want to check your sources for that info. Just watched the episode, and your sources score a 0%.

Fantastic episode though. "What are the rules?" <blank stare>...there are no rules, just survive.

As someone said, these techniques would get you arrested in an MMA bout. Just try the M-16 "elbow" strike, and SWAT would be all over you.
tommyprairie
9/1/07 3:21:09PM
The "football guy" was a multiple state champion wrestler from NJ. I do think that the mma guy overvalues his skills, when Bill Duff (football guy) is a lot bigger and does move well. They should each fight someone.
fedorwins1
9/1/07 3:28:17PM
So for the MMA episode will they fight a full contact MMA fight?
KissMyBallz
9/1/07 8:06:36PM
yeah, sorry. I shouldve known better than to quote a source from Sherdog. My bad, won't happen again
CWall33
9/2/07 7:15:25AM

Posted by KissMyBallz

yeah, sorry. I shouldve known better than to quote a source from Sherdog. My bad, won't happen again



Lesson learned, don't trust the Sherdog forums. I was hoping what you said was true. Still, the episode kicked ass.
mrsumo
9/5/07 10:15:32PM
This show rocks! It definitely has more appeal to traditional martial artists than straight sport fighters. My favorite episode so far is the eskrima episode. Not only does dude get his ass handed to him in a stick fight, but they show highlights of a cockfight in the same arena.
GTS
9/27/07 3:43:11AM
its a good show to watch. im learning how to use those moves they show you n apply it to my mma.
Svartorm
9/28/07 1:45:17AM
I recommend you train the hell out of that double uppercut from the Muai Thai episode. It looked deadly.
slamdunk
9/28/07 9:28:55PM
anyone got any video links for episodes or highlights?
GTS
9/29/07 3:08:23AM
i tried checking on youtube but they only got few clips which isnt the whole show. i loved that double uppercut for muai thai.
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