I hope Kharitonov pounds Yvel into sludge.

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POLL: What say thee?
Sergei will crush him. 77% (10)
Could do either way. 8% (1)
Gilbert ftw! 15% (2)
AchillesHeel
2/16/07 2:04:03PM
I kind of enjoyed watching Sergei pummel Semmy Schilt until he cried like a girl. It was kind of rough, I admit, but K-1 seems happy to have him and I wish him well.

After that, Sergei put up a real fight against Nogueira, which surprised me, frankly. Choi and Rizzo didn't even belong in the ring with Sergei. I mean, really. That's like me fighting Denis Kang. The decision over Werdum was a narrow one, and could have gone either way, but Werdum ain't too shabby himself.

The losses to Alistair Overeem and Aleks Emelianenko really stuck in my craw, though. Not to take anything away from Overeem and Aleks E, but I thought Sergei looked kinda... I dunno.. flat. For awhile, I was advocating for PRIDE and the UFC to "trade" Sergei for Andrei Arlovski, on the theory that they could each have used a change of scenery (I really wanted to see Sergei vs. Brandon Vera). AA seems to have come back, though, so he's probably going to stay put.

So now I'm hoping that Sergei follows suit and goes back to punching people in the face a lot. Maybe a couple of knees thrown in, for good measure.

No offense, Gilbert. I'm sure you're a swell guy, but I'm hoping you get clubbed like a narc at a biker rally.



AchillesHeel
2/16/07 2:13:15PM

Posted by AchillesHeel

No offense, Gilbert. I'm sure you're a swell guy, but I'm hoping you get clubbed like a narc at a biker rally.


This is meant completely in jest, of course. I'd never want a fighter to actually get hurt in the ring.
OB_Juan
2/16/07 2:14:42PM
Actually, no, Gilbert isn't a swell guy. I'm not even convinced he will be allowed tofight in the States until I actually see him in the ring.

I'd have to disagree w/ your gameplan for Sergei. Standing up and trying to "punch him in the face" is a bad idea. Maybe he could GnP him, sure. However, knees will not be allowed (at least to the head). Regardless, if Sergei is smart he will take this fight to the ground immdiately. He needs the win here more than he needs to try and entertain fans.
OB_Juan
2/16/07 2:16:33PM
Your poll options should have "Sergei via DQ" in there. Seriously, the American refs will not tolerate any of Gilbert's shit.
hippysmacker
2/16/07 2:26:25PM
I agree that we may not see this fight. The NSAC might not grant Yvel a license considering all his DQ's , especially the one for hitting a ref. I f it does I hop Segei GnP's him as bad as Alistair did to him. Probably impossible, as Yvel would probably tap as soon as he got injured, instead of trying to gut it out.
AchillesHeel
2/16/07 2:29:43PM

Posted by OB_Juan

Actually, no, Gilbert isn't a swell guy. I'm not even convinced he will be allowed tofight in the States until I actually see him in the ring.


I was being cheeky. I've never met Yvel.


I'd have to disagree w/ your gameplan for Sergei. Standing up and trying to "punch him in the face" is a bad idea. Maybe he could GnP him, sure.

Good lord, dude. I was trying to be a little light-hearted. Anyway, I never said he should stand up. GnP qualifies as punching him in the face, last time I checked.


However, knees will not be allowed (at least to the head).

Huh? What are you talking about? I thought they were fighting under NSAC rules (e.g. UFC rules, minus the elbows). Since when are knees disallowed in MMA?


Regardless, if Sergei is smart he will take this fight to the ground immdiately.

Yes, I agree. I'm not completely familiar with Yvel, but I think Sergei is the stronger wrestler.


He needs the win here more than he needs to try and entertain fans.

In what way are the two mutually exclusive?
AchillesHeel
2/16/07 2:31:07PM

Posted by hippysmacker

I agree that we may not see this fight.


True.
Jeffanori-Gomi
2/16/07 3:34:26PM
apparently Yvel isnt able to fight in the US. Nevada state athletic commision won't let him. I read it on MMAweekly
madmarck
2/16/07 3:56:22PM
Sergei by KO in the first. At least i hope so. I picked em after all.
OB_Juan
2/16/07 4:23:09PM

Posted by AchillesHeel


Posted by OB_Juan

Actually, no, Gilbert isn't a swell guy. I'm not even convinced he will be allowed tofight in the States until I actually see him in the ring.


I was being cheeky. I've never met Yvel.


I'd have to disagree w/ your gameplan for Sergei. Standing up and trying to "punch him in the face" is a bad idea. Maybe he could GnP him, sure.

Good lord, dude. I was trying to be a little light-hearted. Anyway, I never said he should stand up. GnP qualifies as punching him in the face, last time I checked.


However, knees will not be allowed (at least to the head).

Huh? What are you talking about? I thought they were fighting under NSAC rules (e.g. UFC rules, minus the elbows). Since when are knees disallowed in MMA?


Regardless, if Sergei is smart he will take this fight to the ground immdiately.

Yes, I agree. I'm not completely familiar with Yvel, but I think Sergei is the stronger wrestler.


He needs the win here more than he needs to try and entertain fans.

In what way are the two mutually exclusive?



You need to untwist your panties, bro. I said standing up was a bad idea and GnP was a good idea but if he does take it down he can't knee him to the head. That is all.

And for the most part, when a fighter does not try and stand but instead takes it down for a quick sub it's generally not considered to be as exciting by the majority of the fans (IE: Baroni vs Nishijima would have been more exciting if they traded instead of Phil getting the smart win).

You don't have to know Gilbert personally to know he's a POS.
AchillesHeel
2/16/07 4:45:13PM

Posted by OB_Juan

You need to untwist your panties, bro. I said standing up was a bad idea[...]


You wrote "I'd have to disagree w/ your gameplan for Sergei." And I don't wear panties.


and GnP was a good idea but if he does take it down he can't knee him to the head.

Oh, I thought you were replying to my suggestion that he throw some knees. I didn't realize you meant he couldn't throw knees if/when the fight went to the ground.
xthe_scottx
2/16/07 4:49:46PM
This fight is now off. Its under update #2.

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Reignofterror
2/16/07 5:02:54PM
Yvel is a dirty fighter plain and simple, he'll do whatever it takes to win even if it means pulling out a steel chair.
OB_Juan
2/16/07 5:06:33PM

Posted by AchillesHeel


Posted by OB_Juan

You need to untwist your panties, bro. I said standing up was a bad idea[...]


You wrote "I'd have to disagree w/ your gameplan for Sergei." And I don't wear panties.


and GnP was a good idea but if he does take it down he can't knee him to the head.

Oh, I thought you were replying to my suggestion that he throw some knees. I didn't realize you meant he couldn't throw knees if/when the fight went to the ground.



No worries, mate. I fully agree w/ your original asessment that it would be nice to see Sergei pwn the tar out of Yvel.
rippdogg66
2/16/07 6:55:24PM
yeah, the NSAC wouldnt grant Yvel a licence. sad, i wanted to see sergei pound Yvel also
ac_gi
2/16/07 11:27:32PM
From Sherdog...
"Dutch heavyweight Gilbert Yvel (Pictures) was denied a license to fight because of what Kizer called "inexcusable behavior" stemming for an incident in 2004 in which Yvel struck a referee in the ring. Had the the veteran fighter been granted a license, he would have likely fought on next week's PRIDE card in Las Vegas."

I wonder what sacrificial lamb will be given to Kharitonov?
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