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cmill21
10/15/07 7:02:01PM
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Famed PRIDE fighter turned UFC star Dan Henderson (22-6) recently rebuffed UFC overtures regarding a contract extension. Henderson was apparently dissatisfied with an extension offered by Dana White before his light heavyweight title fight with Quinton Jackson, and chose instead to continue fighting under his "Pride" contract.
Famed PRIDE fighter turned UFC star Dan Henderson (22-6) recently rebuffed UFC overtures regarding a contract extension. Henderson was apparently dissatisfied with an extension offered by Dana White before his light heavyweight title fight with Quinton Jackson, and chose instead to continue fighting under his "Pride" contract.
wrona666
10/15/07 7:10:58PM
Dana White = Don KIng
tuvok500
10/15/07 7:21:16PM
Posted by cmill21
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Famed PRIDE fighter turned UFC star Dan Henderson (22-6) recently rebuffed UFC overtures regarding a contract extension. Henderson was apparently dissatisfied with an extension offered by Dana White before his light heavyweight title fight with Quinton Jackson, and chose instead to continue fighting under his "Pride" contract.
hendo was also telling that he was optimistic about being able to reach an agreement with the ufc.
just a precision.
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Lay_N_Pray
10/15/07 9:19:34PM
And so it begins....is the UFC ready to take the next step or will it die as a mere fad.
This next year coming up will be one of the most important financial years for UFC in its history. Fighters know now the money should be there so if it isnt they are gonna start walking. If fighters get spread out to much then it will eventually turn into boxing with a million champions and no real undisputed best.
But lets hope the money starts getting to the fighters...its all about PPV share, that much they can learn from boxing
This next year coming up will be one of the most important financial years for UFC in its history. Fighters know now the money should be there so if it isnt they are gonna start walking. If fighters get spread out to much then it will eventually turn into boxing with a million champions and no real undisputed best.
But lets hope the money starts getting to the fighters...its all about PPV share, that much they can learn from boxing
jae_1833
10/15/07 11:05:37PM
So true and simple but so hard to do....you've got to pay the best to keep the best. I hope UFC can pull this off!!
jgordon85
10/15/07 11:27:24PM
it seems like henderson did not want drop down to middleweight. and i do not think dana will give him an immediate title shot again. like most of the dana white contract talks(or ufc whatever you want to call it) it will take time.
cmill21
10/15/07 11:35:26PM
I think Dana might have to change his ways, K-1 and M-1 are willing to pay, so Dana better start sharing some of the PPV money(huuuuge). I hope Dana quits screwing around.
fullfighting
10/15/07 11:39:37PM
You've got to pay the top guys top money. The UFC is making an S-load of money right now and it's only fare that the fighters get their fare share. Don't blow this Dana.
D0wnUnd6e6r
10/15/07 11:55:01PM
Maaaaaaaaaaaaaan I hope Dana doesn't blow this..... Come on man, your'e getting rich off these guys, of course you gotta pay em' accordingly god damn. Pull it together White. BUCK UP WHITE, BUCK UP!!!
bjj1605
10/15/07 11:55:40PM
He also said he won't leave the UFC and is just waiting for a fair offer from Dana White.
D0wnUnd6e6r
10/16/07 12:15:46AM
Posted by bjj1605
He also said he won't leave the UFC and is just waiting for a fair offer from Dana White.
Last ppv fight... Couture said the same...
cmill21
10/16/07 12:19:32AM
Posted by bjj1605
He also said he won't leave the UFC and is just waiting for a fair offer from Dana White.
Technically he said he doesn't want to, but he might be forced if he doesn't get a fair offer.
ocho-cinco
10/16/07 3:25:49AM
The one problem with signing guys to bigger contracts is that the first few will be making way more then everyone elce until the underpaid guys contracts run out, and they too can renegotiate. This will cause alot of whining, and in alot of cases rightfully so (I think UFC fighters should be making more money on average), but it will take alot of time untill the average salery evens out. During this period I think we will see a bunch of guys who will feel "disrespected" leave the UFC for more money elce where, shifting the balance of power. The UFC will probably stay the top dog, as it is already a household name, but over time they will be forced to pay guys alot more money then they want to, and with Dana White running the show, it will not happen easily. He thinks he is paying these guys fairly. His ego will get in the way, and so will alot of fighters, and The UFC will lose alot of good talent. Which is really to bad, because isn't it way better to have the best fighters all in the same league, so there is less debate about who is really the best, and the up and comers make there way up in the "minor leagues" so to say. I hope it doesn't happen on a large scale, but with guys like Mark Cuban getting involved we could see some big changes to the MMA scene in the next few years.
Darnok
10/16/07 11:14:07AM
What everyone here forgets is that these guys do make a lot of money. Just because the fighters wine about not making as much as boxers.
It is well known that these fighters make some very large coin from PPV bonuses. And technically this is the best way to get paid. If you are a fan fav and a good fighter the PPV money will be high.
Just remember everyone of you guys that says the UFC needs to pay more that if they do this will turn into boxing. Each org would then have to put on shows where they have one good fight that all the money goes too and then a whole bunch of fights that are crap. Does anybody think that if the UFC paid two mil per fighter that we would have these big fight cards.
It is well known that these fighters make some very large coin from PPV bonuses. And technically this is the best way to get paid. If you are a fan fav and a good fighter the PPV money will be high.
Just remember everyone of you guys that says the UFC needs to pay more that if they do this will turn into boxing. Each org would then have to put on shows where they have one good fight that all the money goes too and then a whole bunch of fights that are crap. Does anybody think that if the UFC paid two mil per fighter that we would have these big fight cards.
Branwest
10/16/07 11:45:42AM
Damnit. Something needs to be done, and done fast. Too many fighters aren't getting paid what they deserve while the promoters and owners sit back and rake in the cash. Don't get me wrong, Dana is a hell of a businessman and has done some good things for MMA and helped bring it to mainstream. However, he needs to start showing his respect by giving these fighters what they deserve. They work hard to do what they do and they put theirselves on the line in every fight. THEIR the reasons MMA is so popular. So pay them what they're worth. If not, more and more fighters will leave.
Hopefully, maybe one of these new org's will be really good, have good production, treat their fighters good (ala Mark Cuban), and maybe they'll start signing all these disgruntled fighters. That way, we'll start to see some of these fights that we thought we were going to see.
Hopefully, maybe one of these new org's will be really good, have good production, treat their fighters good (ala Mark Cuban), and maybe they'll start signing all these disgruntled fighters. That way, we'll start to see some of these fights that we thought we were going to see.
jgtribbett
10/16/07 2:01:06PM
i wish he would extend and fight at a185... but at the same time.. i give him a 50% chance to beat jackson any day of the week.. i think that, they would go back and forth.. so in no way am i saying that he should be out of 205.. and honestly... its the toughest weight class so i dont blame him for watnting to stay in 205
roadking95th
10/16/07 3:46:41PM
Nobody knows the financial situation. I've said this before. When one adds up the fighters pay, not counting bonuses or anything else, it usually seems to amount to the gate. I've read somewhere on a recent article, that they expect the UFC to GROSS, that's before taxes etc..., 100 million from PPV after cable's cut. Now, I am not a genuis, but if the gate is going to fighter's base pay and you are only grossing 100 million from PPV/year, there isn't as much money going around as some would think. Obviously these figures are general ideas, but they paint a good idea of what a starting point financially is.
tuvok500
10/16/07 4:19:22PM
well, i think that these fighters are not so stupid that they have signed a contract and got totally scew by dana.
when they are negociating a contract, well ,they compare what others can offer, also, what is the potentiel of being sponsor by a big name, witch is not going to happen in a place where there are no ppv or very little and the coverage is ridiculous. also, these fighters are adult and they got lawyer, they are not going to be screw like a little child !!
so , i think that nobody should start crying that they have less that some others and they should respect there contract like everybody else in the society is suppose to.
we see so many times , guys in football starting a strike alone , because they are jalous of a guy who got a new and better contract, it is ridiculous to act like that.
dana will give them more money for sure after being directly attack about that this week, but the fighters will receive there new better contract at the end of there actual contract not before.
when they are negociating a contract, well ,they compare what others can offer, also, what is the potentiel of being sponsor by a big name, witch is not going to happen in a place where there are no ppv or very little and the coverage is ridiculous. also, these fighters are adult and they got lawyer, they are not going to be screw like a little child !!
so , i think that nobody should start crying that they have less that some others and they should respect there contract like everybody else in the society is suppose to.
we see so many times , guys in football starting a strike alone , because they are jalous of a guy who got a new and better contract, it is ridiculous to act like that.
dana will give them more money for sure after being directly attack about that this week, but the fighters will receive there new better contract at the end of there actual contract not before.